ImageImageImageImage

Wiretap: Orlando STill Believes They're Better Than Detroit

Moderators: ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass

User avatar
KingRobb02
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,464
And1: 917
Joined: Aug 07, 2007
         

Wiretap: Orlando STill Believes They're Better Than Detroit 

Post#1 » by KingRobb02 » Fri May 16, 2008 12:27 am

It's OK to be confident, but at what point does this become ridiculous. The Magic just lost back to back games against a team missing its best player, starting a rookie point guard from a DII school. To make matters worse we could have have had Stuckey as our starting point guard, but we traded him for 1 year and a half of Darko. Blowing a 15 point lead to a team is not a reason to think you are OK.
Dwightmare
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,676
And1: 24
Joined: Sep 03, 2006

 

Post#2 » by Dwightmare » Fri May 16, 2008 12:30 am

they definitely shouldn't.
User avatar
TheGlyde
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,806
And1: 559
Joined: Mar 01, 2005
Location: Retire #25!
 

 

Post#3 » by TheGlyde » Fri May 16, 2008 12:30 am

So wait, in the same paragraph you are criticising Stuckey for being a rookie from a DII school, and then touting him as having been a possible starter for us?

With Nelson, Arroyo and Dooling under contract and big holes in other places why would we have selected Stuckey if we had kept that pick?

On the topic of the article, they need to put up for shut up, they didn't put up, so it's time to shut up.

JMO.
Orlando Magic Historian

Magic Player History on Instagram

Also on Twitter & Youtube
Driguez
General Manager
Posts: 9,767
And1: 2,093
Joined: Jul 01, 2005
Location: Impartial
   

 

Post#4 » by Driguez » Fri May 16, 2008 12:36 am

Ugh... my head hurts... Obviously the better team won...
Huevos Bancheros
User avatar
KingRobb02
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,464
And1: 917
Joined: Aug 07, 2007
         

 

Post#5 » by KingRobb02 » Fri May 16, 2008 12:41 am

I brought up the DII thing to say that he hasn't necessarily played against top tier talent before this season. I do think that he is better than Mo, and could have been our starting 2 guard allowing Jameer to play off the ball more. The guy had no turnovers in the 2 games he started. Turnovers were our biggest problem. What makes you think he wouldn't start? Last year at the draft, we had Battie, Milicic, Howard, Ariza, Turk, Hill, Nelson, Arroyo. Our biggest hole was at shooting guard. He was the best one available at 15. That's why I think we would have picked him.
bstein14
RealGM
Posts: 32,710
And1: 9,545
Joined: Jun 22, 2001

 

Post#6 » by bstein14 » Fri May 16, 2008 12:55 am

I'm starting to think that some of the Magic players are posters on this board.
magicfan4life05
RealGM
Posts: 23,617
And1: 198
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
Location: Welcome back the Comeback King !

 

Post#7 » by magicfan4life05 » Fri May 16, 2008 12:56 am

:nonono:


seriously you didnt back it up in the playoffs against the team w/o their best player, its really time to just be quiet
Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

"I just think everybody needs to stop talking about it," Howard said. "There's more to life than free throws."
MoGrAdY
RealGM
Posts: 10,977
And1: 119
Joined: May 21, 2003
     

 

Post#8 » by MoGrAdY » Fri May 16, 2008 1:06 am

bstein14 wrote:I'm starting to think that some of the Magic players are posters on this board.



:rofl:
mattyBoi
Head Coach
Posts: 6,247
And1: 999
Joined: Dec 18, 2007
Location: The Truth

 

Post#9 » by mattyBoi » Fri May 16, 2008 1:06 am

:clap: :clap: :clap:

I applaud and agree with the sentiment...We are the better team

We managed to beat ourselves
mattyBoi
Head Coach
Posts: 6,247
And1: 999
Joined: Dec 18, 2007
Location: The Truth

 

Post#10 » by mattyBoi » Fri May 16, 2008 1:07 am

Like Rashard said they were the smarter and more experienced team
User avatar
JazzItUp13
Veteran
Posts: 2,640
And1: 1
Joined: May 28, 2007
Location: Whatchu want!?

 

Post#11 » by JazzItUp13 » Fri May 16, 2008 1:15 am

because we won 1 more game? last year they swept the magic. This year we win one game...what next year we get 2 games? I Don't like this attitude because we clearly are not as good as the pistons.
I got a question why they hating on me....
theTHIEF
RealGM
Posts: 12,940
And1: 214
Joined: Aug 08, 2003
 

 

Post#12 » by theTHIEF » Fri May 16, 2008 1:16 am

I can't wait for the day that teams come out and say "we should not have been playing against them, they are so much better, I couldnt believe we were even allowed on the same court as them, I mean we just suck and everyone knows it"

"I'm overpaid like a mother, I shouldn't even be allowed to play teams like this they are going to abuse the hell out of me"

"I'm a horrible point guard, especially when compared to Billups, Stuckey and Hunter, we're not going to make any kinds of adjustments, we just need to go up there and lose one more so that it will all be over"
triplet1984
General Manager
Posts: 8,356
And1: 177
Joined: Jan 18, 2006

 

Post#13 » by triplet1984 » Fri May 16, 2008 1:46 am

yeah, that's why they lost two straight to a Billups-less Pistons squad.

Because they're better.

Once again, that's without the ALL STAR AND FINALS MVP POINT GUARD.

How anybody could say the squad starting Jameer Nelson and Maurice Evans is the better team is beyond me.
User avatar
ivDT
RealGM
Posts: 18,548
And1: 1,587
Joined: Jun 15, 2003
 

 

Post#14 » by ivDT » Fri May 16, 2008 1:58 am

really, they could've done well enough to just say "we'll be back and things will be different next year" or something to that effect.

i don't see what good it does you to publicly express your belief in something that is demonstrably false.
richboy
RealGM
Posts: 25,424
And1: 2,487
Joined: Sep 01, 2003

 

Post#15 » by richboy » Fri May 16, 2008 2:06 am

How can Rashard say what he said. If he played well they probably would have won those games. He had the biggest mismatch on the Magic team and he played horrible the last 2 games in Detroit.

I see some denial in these quotes. The reality is 4/5 of the starting lineup is not likely to change. Its easier to say were better than say there better when you know there not much to change in the lineup.

On the flip side Chris Bosh after after being beat by the Magic said Orlando is definitely the better team. He knows that there likely to change much of there starting lineup next year. Easier to say there better when you know there going to be change.
User avatar
FFBlitzace
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 35,559
And1: 8,007
Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Location: Beyond the Space, Beyond the Time
 

 

Post#16 » by FFBlitzace » Fri May 16, 2008 2:08 am

bstein14 wrote:I'm starting to think that some of the Magic players are posters on this board.


Alright I admit it. This 4 year farce is at an end.

I am Patrick Joseph Garrity.

And btw, suckas. Rich Devos told me he wants me back. See you next St. Patrick's Day!
11/18/2017 - I have officially disowned Nikola Vucevic and branded him a loser.

- Skal Labissiere was my guy in 2016 pre-trade. Whoops, but I still believe.
- Malik Monk was my guy in 2017. Whoops(?)
- Mo Bamba was my guy in 2018. TBD.
User avatar
Kent
Veteran
Posts: 2,975
And1: 1,626
Joined: Aug 13, 2005
Location: Orlando baby!
 

 

Post#17 » by Kent » Fri May 16, 2008 2:39 am

Even the Magic believe in Magic.
Ryan Anderson = Pat Garrity 10.0
-LBPTarHeel27
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 50,837
And1: 17,978
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

 

Post#18 » by Snakebites » Fri May 16, 2008 2:42 am

All Magic fans are now entitled to demand that the players back up these assertions next season, IMO.

You don't make assertions like this unless you are good and ready to back them up.
User avatar
Kent
Veteran
Posts: 2,975
And1: 1,626
Joined: Aug 13, 2005
Location: Orlando baby!
 

 

Post#19 » by Kent » Fri May 16, 2008 2:47 am

Pistons#1 wrote:All Magic fans are now entitled to demand that the players back up these assertions next season, IMO.

You don't make assertions like this unless you are good and ready to back them up.


Thanks for proving that not all Pistons are mean. Now win the title so that our series loss looks a little better.
Ryan Anderson = Pat Garrity 10.0
-LBPTarHeel27
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 50,837
And1: 17,978
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

 

Post#20 » by Snakebites » Fri May 16, 2008 3:39 am

Kent wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Thanks for proving that not all Pistons are mean. Now win the title so that our series loss looks a little better.


Hope we can. :wink:

We've got a quality group of guys on the Detroit board. We just get a tad annoyed when an opposing team doesn't give us due credit when defeated. The right thing to do would have been to express optimism about progress made and assert that the team will come back stronger the next year, not insist that they should have won.

Most here in these parts seem to agree.

Best of luck to ya'll in the offseason. We'll see you in the playoffs next year. :)

Cheers.

Return to Orlando Magic