what if we lose a home game to Detroit?

[MyInsatiableOne]

Negativity is part of being a Boston sports fan. I think it comes from the Red Sox continuously dashing the hopes of the fans for decades. Now the fans expect the worst while silently praying for the best. If you can convince yourself that the cause is hopeless, it doesn't hurt as much when the end comes. It's a coping mechanism, and it has nothing to do with being a "bandwagon" fan (quite the opposite in fact.)

In fact, I think it's more likely that the "rah-rah" fans have come upon the scene in the past 6-8 years when the Patriots and Red Sox have been winning everything.

Hey man, I've been a diehard Boston fan since birth, some 30 years ago, and I was always a very positive and optimistic fan even when all the teams sucked. So for me this is awesome that they're all great now.

As for the perpetually negative ones...I don't know what their problem is.

[Gold Chain]

i love when the two favorites meet.
i think rasheed wallace is going to give the celtics fits.
at the same time i feel like paul pierce is in for a big series again.
i will not even try to predict a series winner until i can at least see game one and how these two great teams match up.
let's get it on.

[RWGreen]

As for the perpetually negative ones...I don't know what their problem is.

It just hurts too much. When your team gets eliminated from the playoffs it's as if your dog was hit by a car, and you're there holding his broken body by the side of the road. You just don't want to get caught up in the team because you don't want to get hurt like that again. I know the feeling. I've cried when the Celtics were eliminated.

That's not to say that I'm a negative fan. But I'm much more cautiously optimistic.

[rsceltic34]

What is with all the negativity??????????

Cmon lets get ***** PUMPED we are playing in the ECF......with a chance to go to the FINALS!!!

Sure Detroit is a good team but dammit so are we.

We won 66 games this season!

Beat them 2-1 in the season series!

And have home court advantage where we are 8-0!

I believe there is no team in the league that can beat us 4 games out of 7 especially with home court advantage!!!!

[return2glory]

IMO, we are clearly the under dogs going into the series. It will take an almost miracle to win this series.

We beat the Cavs (who most thought were "better" then last year) who beat Detroit (in six I think) last year and Detroit hasn't changed much. How can you say that they will be the favorite?

Secondly last years team SUCKED - it was chock full of losers. Loving that team as much as this one - a good team with guys who play with heart like House and PJ Brown and Pierce is a sign that something is wrong...
Pete

I disagree about the two points you made above.

IMO, the Cavs were better last year. Trading away Gooden was a mistake. He was there 3rd scoring behind Lebron and Big Z. Gooden is way better than Ben Wallace, who is a shade of himself now. Larry Hughes is a better overall player than Wally. Delonte helped them but they couldn't over come the scoring they gave up in Gooden and Hughes.

And as far as saying something is wrong with loving this year's team as much as last year's, I disagee again. To me, there is nothing wrong with loving your team through the bad times and good. That's a true fan. But I enjoyed the games more this year because we won a lot more.

[tombattor]

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No home loss, no fishing.

+1. **** all those people who says we can't win a title without winning on the road. We have home court, so we don't need to win one on the road. It would be nice, but no need for it.

[I love heinsohn]

If we lose a home game to Detroit... then we have to win a road game in Detroit.

What if we don't lose a home game to Detroit?

Exactly. The Pistons should be very worried right now about how in the name of god they can win in Boston. If the Celtics win all their home games, then this could very possibly be a 5 or 6 game series -- Celtics just have to win 1 game on the road to make it happen!

[return2glory]

RTG, Joe...


We just beat the Cavs, we won the regular season duel with the Pistons

The negativity in this town (board) sucks (at least the opinion of some posters does).

We are the #1 seed. We should have beat the Cavs. And if not for a great performance by Pierce and a 38 year old bailing us out in the 4th quarter, we would have lost this series.

And you call it negativity and I call it concerns. Some of us don't walk around with pum pums and pretend there is nothing wrong. It's a discussion board, we express concerns.

If I see any member of the Celtics, I'm not going to say we don't have a chance of winning. I wouldn't say anything negative to put bad thoughts in their head. Over here, it's different because it's a message board. That's what we do, talk about our favorite team.

[return2glory]

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Great Post! You are one of the most knowledgeable posters on realgm. I have the utmost respect for your basketball knowledge.

Thank You.

[GuyClinch]

And as far as saying something is wrong with loving this year's team as much as last year's, I disagee again. To me, there is nothing wrong with loving your team through the bad times and good. That's a true fan. But I enjoyed the games more this year because we won a lot more.

First to be honest I don't really believe you. This team is heartwarming - with older guys getting their final chance to shine before the sun sets on their career. how can you not like this team better?

Secondly if you want to know what's wrong with loving losers who don't hustle or care about anything besides their own contracts from a fan perspective.. I will tell ya. If the entire fanbase thought like you we would have another loser team this year. Why improve a team if fans are going to love them "equally" through good and bad?

Pete

[tombattor]

I forgot when R2G turned into this annoying ass pessimist, changing his opinion from one day to another to pound his chest and chastise everyone else? One day, it's KG, then Ray, now we win, we have no chance of winning or actually as he said with great scientific evidence to quantify our chances at less than 20%.

Unless you're still living with Big Al's cock in your mouth, you can't possibly like last year's team more than this year's. As Pete said, how can you not love all the hustle, team work, etc. from this team? And PJ Brown's stepping up alone is a heartwarming story.

[return2glory]

And as far as saying something is wrong with loving this year's team as much as last year's, I disagee again. To me, there is nothing wrong with loving your team through the bad times and good. That's a true fan. But I enjoyed the games more this year because we won a lot more.

Secondly if you want to know what's wrong with loving losers who don't hustle or care about anything besides their own contracts from a fan perspective.. I will tell ya. If the entire fanbase thought like you we would have another loser team this year. Why improve a team if fans are going to love them "equally" through good and bad?

Pete

Last years time may have sucked, but it wasn't for the lack if effort. We were a young team that was in a lot of games, The reason we lost a lot of games was because Pierce missed almost half the season. Wally also missed alot of games. We lost also because our young guys didn't know how to close out games.

I remember Al Jefferson and Delonte West busting their asses. I rememer Ryan Gomes, Perkins, Rondo and Tony Allen playing hard. We had a bunch of hunger, takented young guys that tried hard every game.

I loved that team and I love this won. And like I said earlier, this years team was more enjoyable because we won more games.

And what's so heart warming about Ray Allen choking and KG disappearing during big games. They didn't look like they wanted to we a title.

The heart warming part was Pierce's big time performance, Eddie's hussle, and P.J. setting up huge in the 4th quarter.

You call your self a Celtic's fan then you go on to call last teams players losers. That is the true definition of a bandwagon fan. Only love your team when they are winning. Your true colors are finally coming out.

[return2glory]

Double post. My bad.

[return2glory]

Unless you're still living with Big Al's cock in your mouth, you can't possibly like last year's team more than this year's.

Your mom's got that covered.

[tombattor]

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Your mom's got that covered.

You're so original and mature. But I guess when you've been called out on something that's true and you're not man enough to accept it, what else you gonna do, right?

[RickyDizzle]

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Let me play the voice of reason, for I think the truth is between what you and Pete are saying.

Pete's statement was harsh that last year's team had no heart and yada, yada, yada.... but come on R2G, how can you not love this team 100x more then lasts.

You are right, we did have guys giving their best effort a lot of last year and you are right that injuries are what crippled us (Big Al and PP should've made the playoffs healthy IMHO), but guys were playing hard for different reasons.

As Pete started to say, guys were trying to earn their dues, their contract, and the right to stay in the NBA. Thats why guys like Delonte and Gomes gave it their all out there, but it wasnt the same type of team unity and desire for a common goal.

We all knew there was no possibility of a championship last year...there was some hustle, some good individual play, some young guys that were characters and fun to root for...but we were missing...Ubuntu.

But to address the general thread and not the back and fourth between Pete and R2G, there is way too much doom and gloom around here.

Call it being realistic, call them concerns, call it whatever you want...but last time I checked we were the best regular season team, we just finished beating the defending EC champs and the league's best player in a hard fought series, and I think we are the only team in the playoffs with 3 all-stars (right...?).

Has Ray played like crap? Yes, but he was doubled everytime and it opens the floor for other players, plus the chance of him continuously stinking it up the bad is not very likely IMO.

Take a deep breath, celebrate the victory for now, and if we drop game 1 or 2 in Boston, then I will grant you the right to panic (Who made me king anyway? haha). Until then just enjoy the terriffic performance this team put on yesterday and take comfort in the fact that this team is gaining experience in winning close playoff games together and all pitching in.

-Dizzy

[return2glory]

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You're so original and mature. But I guess when you've been called out on something that's true and you're not man enough to accept it, what else you gonna do, right?

You talk about sucking Al's cock and you all me immature. That's typical of some posters here. If you want to discuss basketball, we can do that. Just keep your gay fantasies out of it.

You call me a pessimist for having concerns about this team?

I feel Ray Allen is choking. I'm sure many here would agree with that. KG has be known to disappear in big games before coming here. It's not my fault you probably didn't ever watch him play before he came to Boston. 13 points and 13 rebounds is a good game, don't get me wrong. But it's not a game that most would expect coming from a MVP candidate.

I also have concerns about Doc Rivers. I don't feel he can lead us to a championship. He is a great guy but not a great coach. There was no reason to go to two game 7's against teams that were not our level.

And who have I chastised. I may diagree with some people here on some topics, but I don't put them down for their opinions. And unlike you, I try not to call them any names.

[tombattor]

R2G, you make me laugh. Take a deep breath and enjoy the playoffs. No team is without its flaw. You just happen to concentrate on the Celtics' flaws because that's the team you know the best.

You are right on some points. Yes, Ray's playing like crap and KG's not putting up the numbers. However, the difference between you and me is that you only focus on raw numbers. Which is why you focus on KG's scoring and rebounding numbers and think he's not getting it done. However, you fail to take things like, drawing defenders, moving the ball around, etc. into account. On the T-Wolves, KG was their #1, 2, 3 option, so he got a lot more shots. On the Celtics, he doesn't have to take such a big role on offense because he has a better offensive player like PP.

Did you want KG to tell PP to give him the ball, so he can go for 30 when PP was hot? How do you quantify how KG played off of Pierce, only demanding the ball in certain situations and letting PP go to work?

If you want to win a title, you have to play both ends of the floor. Things like energy, team-work, etc. all play a role. Not only the scoring and rebounding numbers. And the most important stat is the Wins and losses.