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Post#21 » by NjNeTs1029 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:52 am

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Your crazy! :rofl:


in case you havent realized by now, the nets missed the playoffs.. in the east.

Time for some changes. RJ is soft. Everytime he drives he flails his arms up to try and draw a foul. and when he does draw the foul he hardly ever finishes the play, he just throws the ball out of bounds.. The 10 pick the nets would probably go with a project big man like Jordan, its unlikely that whoever they take with a 10 pick would have an immediate impact, especially with frank as the coach.

Harris/Carter/Melo/Boone/Camby is better than the lineup we have now.


Or we can wait until 2010 and pray for LBJ
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Post#22 » by RJ 24 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:52 am

halfHAVOC wrote:yeah but whats the point ,nets need a big i say package a young player with that pick and try and get a low post player.

people are making this too complicated, all the nets need is a PF with some solid post moves.

I agree, Melo is not needed, he is just a waste. Why fix something if it ain't broke? RJ had a great season last year and he was the only one that actually ran with Harris. I would trade either Krstic or Marcus, fillers, & a pick for a real big man with low post moves. Let's do away with these 2nd tier big men and get a legitimate force inside.
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Post#23 » by halfHAVOC » Wed May 21, 2008 12:52 am

HotShots wrote:WAIT COULD THERE STILL BE HOPE FOR BEASLEY!



If Chicago takes Rose......Maimi needs a PG badly!

Would M Williams, Boone. 10 & 21 picks be enough for Beasley???


lmao uhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm actually lol idk theyd prolly jus trade someone else for a pg.
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Post#24 » by tsp00n » Wed May 21, 2008 12:53 am

man... I'm really disappointed we got the 10th pick. This team hasn't developed good rookies since jefferson and k-mart, and the nba ready players are far out of our reach... i never thought i'd say this but maybe we should trade the picks...
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Post#25 » by halfHAVOC » Wed May 21, 2008 12:56 am

#10 pick, marcus williams, trenton hassel, kvh contract for jo, fillers
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Post#26 » by NjNeTs1029 » Wed May 21, 2008 12:56 am

halfHAVOC wrote:#10 pick, marcus williams, trenton hassel, kvh contract for jo, fillers


i dont know about JO. If hes healthy than thats good but it seems like hes always hurt.. Over the last 3 years hes missed like 85 games.
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Post#27 » by tsp00n » Wed May 21, 2008 12:58 am

not a big melo fan either, nor am i really interested in diaw. damn what will thornand kiki do? will they trade the picks or trade for a good pick???
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Post#28 » by fasca » Wed May 21, 2008 1:00 am

i say we totally rebuild get expirings get a top pick next year.

NO REASON TO KEEP OUR PICKS, not enough impact players.

WE HAVE TO TRADE RJ
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Post#29 » by RJ 24 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:00 am

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I've actually realized that the Nets missed the playoffs in the East this year, for a while now. Calling RJ soft is a joke. The guy is scoring points anyway possible. Who cares how he scores them? The point of the matter is that he scores them, it doesn't matter how. The guy takes it to the hole unlike someone else that you probably idolize.

Yea that lineup you posted does look better than the one we had before but how abou the bench? You want to post that too? Teams with a great lineup and no bench go as far as a team with a bench and an okay lineup.
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Post#30 » by RJ 24 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:05 am

fasca wrote:i say we totally rebuild get expirings get a top pick next year.

NO REASON TO KEEP OUR PICKS, not enough impact players.

WE HAVE TO TRADE RJ

I think you are contradicting yourself. You say that you want to rebuild but trade away your picks. To rebuild, you must accumulate picks over the years and obtain good, young players
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Post#31 » by NjNeTs1029 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:10 am

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I've actually realized that the Nets missed the playoffs in the East this year, for a while now. Calling RJ soft is a joke. The guy is scoring points anyway possible. Who cares how he scores them? The point of the matter is that he scores them, it doesn't matter how. The guy takes it to the hole unlike someone else that you probably idolize.

Yea that lineup you posted does look better than the one we had before but how abou the bench? You want to post that too? Teams with a great lineup and no bench go as far as a team with a bench and an okay lineup.


my favorite player in the league is chris paul so your off with that someone you probably idolize thing.. i hate when VC settles

and the trade doesnt really effect the bench anyway. Marcus williams is the only bench player being traded.. and if u include the picks to the bench then them too but they probably wouldnt have much of a impact anyway.. Trade or no trade, the bench isnt going to get much better. Maybe the 10th pick in a few years but not right away.

uhh i guess the bench would be boki, sean williams, krstic, hassell, swift, ager and diop if he stays.. should sign a backup PG and a shooter to come off the bench over the offseason.

I dont love melo, his D needs a lot of improvement, but the trade makes a lot of sense for us so i dont see why your so against it.. Plus camby is still a great defensive player and rebounder so that helps us at the center position.
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Post#32 » by RJ 24 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:20 am

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Im not very against the trade, just giving up both 1st rounders. Thats the only thing I was :rofl: about. Those picks will turn into big role players off the bench for us. One will most likely be a big man project like you said (lets say Jordan) and the other a pure shooter. (lets say Rush) Those two guys alone bolster the bench greatly. Diop will most likely not be back, and the same goes with Boki. A bench of Swift, SWAT, Marcus, Hassell, big man rookie, and Shooter rookie is better than a depleted bench. Plus we would add some FAs.

Camby is the only player I really want from Denver. I feel like trading for Melo is a waste. Why trade someone who is a little less talented offensively but better by a good margin defensivley for a guy is "garbage" on the other end. I would offer Marcus, future first or the 21st, & fillers for Camby or Diaw alone. I would rather make a big trade for Diaw & Barbosa then for Camby & Melo in my opinion.
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Post#33 » by Serpo » Wed May 21, 2008 1:27 am

If not somebody unexpected is going to fall in the lottery or we find somebody in workouts who we really like who's surely there at 10 the Pick is traded .

A guy like Deandre Jordan is no help for us . He's even more of a project then Sean Williams was , he's just taller / bigger.
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Post#34 » by thierry » Wed May 21, 2008 1:29 am

I'm on the Melo/Camby for RJ/MW/KVH/picks trade bandwagon. Lets do it baby. Harris/Carter/Melo/Boone/Camby would be SICK. That is a team that could win the East. Lets do it!
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Post#35 » by Pugsley_2491 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:42 am

I would try to trade up and grab Lopez. The guy is a true center and can finally be that post-presence we've been missing.
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Post#36 » by ItsaVC3 » Wed May 21, 2008 2:07 am

thierry wrote:I'm on the Melo/Camby for RJ/MW/KVH/picks trade bandwagon. Lets do it baby. Harris/Carter/Melo/Boone/Camby would be SICK. That is a team that could win the East. Lets do it!



i agree with u 100% we need to do this trade
this LU has a better chance of doing better then if we draft another PF
and besides who would be there when we pick jordan love gordon etc i really want this trade to go down
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Post#37 » by Birth of the Cool » Wed May 21, 2008 2:12 am

thierry wrote:I'm on the Melo/Camby for RJ/MW/KVH/picks trade bandwagon. Lets do it baby. Harris/Carter/Melo/Boone/Camby would be SICK. That is a team that could win the East. Lets do it!


I don't know. I'm not 100% sold that Harris can be THE point guard everyone expects/hopes him to be. His jumpshot is still a big question mark. His defense was not spectacular with the Nets and that may likely have to do with his ankles. His passing was hit/miss and didn't seem like a natural instinct (maybe spoiled by Kidd). I'm high on the guy but he is not a surefire success.

Melo can explode and kill a team by himself but this guy plays no defense and has some off court issues. RJ is nowhere near the offensive talent that Melo is and if his defense is like last season then yeah it's a no brainer but I think RJ in a diminished offensive role can still be a solid two-way player. The Nets were scoring easy enough post-Kidd trade, they just didn't stop anyone so do they want to go all out & just outscore everyone with Melo or more balance potentially with RJ ? and what type of team do you think Frank is more suited to coach ?

Camby I like the guy since his Raps days but recently I've read stuff on him like he is a poor man-to-man defender but a good help defender, goes for the blocks too much....now imagine Camby contesting attempts at the rim, if he doesn't block it you have to rely on Boone to bang with opposing C's for that potential rebound...that's worrisome. Again, this could be wrong since I haven't kept us with Camby since he left the Raps.

To me, post-Kidd the Nets starting five were scoring rather easily, they just didn't play good team defense, and bench production was very inconsistent and of course they needed a pure shooter/offensive post player to make teams pay for collapsing on Devin/RJ and double+ teaming VC. Melo adds that post player / shooter presence so it is intriguing but a Frank team is only successful when they can stop teams.

Will be interesting off-season for sure...
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Post#38 » by Da big3 » Wed May 21, 2008 2:38 am

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No, they were either going to pick 5 or 6 according to the percentages so it was fair.


but their franchise need was Derek Rose.........
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Post#39 » by Serpo » Wed May 21, 2008 2:55 am

The poor Chicago Kid had to be send home sorry .....
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Post#40 » by jerseyjac » Wed May 21, 2008 3:25 am

you know whats funny...between the rumor mill and everything else...I dont think even the Nets know what they are doing at this point...

I think it all really starts tonight...but this is just day1...and we'll go round and round...till draft night...and even then, everything (plans) can change in 60 seconds...

We're probably more in limbo this year than RJ's draft night...

note: I do like the melo idea...god help us if we go after Bargs...

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