Manu Ginobili Is Overrated

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Is Manu Ginobili Overrated?

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Post#81 » by noagenda » Mon May 26, 2008 3:04 am

Pistol Pete Vescey wrote:i'd love to see the look on AI or Tmac's face if the coach asked them to come off the bench for the betterment of the team. i will take ginobili, and his championships, and his gold medal, over those posers every day of the week!

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Post#82 » by Serpo » Mon May 26, 2008 3:05 am

Pistol Pete Vescey wrote:i'd love to see the look on AI or Tmac's face if the coach asked them to come off the bench for the betterment of the team. i will take ginobili, and his championships, and his gold medal, over those posers every day of the week!


Sooo true :clap:
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Post#83 » by LakerFanMan » Mon May 26, 2008 3:16 am

You put AI or Tmac on the Spurs with Duncan, Parker, and Bowen and you wouldn't need any spark off the bench.
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Post#84 » by Basileus777 » Mon May 26, 2008 3:22 am

Pistol Pete Vescey wrote:i'd love to see the look on AI or Tmac's face if the coach asked them to come off the bench for the betterment of the team. i will take ginobili, and his championships, and his gold medal, over those posers every day of the week!


No team would be better with them off the bench. Number 1 or 2 options on teams stay in the starting lineup for a reason.
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Post#85 » by A.J. » Mon May 26, 2008 3:24 am

Do Lakers fans think he is overrated now?
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Post#86 » by LakerFanMan » Mon May 26, 2008 3:32 am

Yes.
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Post#87 » by AIfan3 » Mon May 26, 2008 3:36 am

I laugh when I see posters putting him ahead of the likes of D-Wade, VC, JJ etc.. And using his playoff success to somehow soldify that argument.. As if the guy isn't playing along side the best PF of all time and one of the best coaches the league has seen.. I would love to see Ginobili on a team like the nets or bulls with no legit post presence.. I would likee to see how effective he'll be breaking double and triple teams from opposing 7 footers..
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Post#88 » by lukeridenour » Mon May 26, 2008 3:41 am

is ginobili better than kobe? no

is ginobili's impact greater or equal to kobes? no

is ginobili a top 3 SG in our league today? no

is ginobili a top 5 NBA player in our league today? no

is ginobili overrated? NO.

Kevin martin? joe johnson? i doubt they would have the same impact as ginobili on the spurs. manu does bring energy, but thats not why hes so important. the mans a winner, he appears to be calm underpressure and mentally hes ready for the kill. his skills doesn't allow him to be equal to the great closers like kobe but his killer instinct is there. his passion and desires to win the game is there. ginobili also players better defense than both, i believe he averages more steals than either of the players ive mentioned above AND in lesser minutes. maybe he even averages more blocks? im not sure about that one.

common myth that ginobili isnt capable of playing over 30 minutes. this is false, the spurs are simply a deep team, why play him near 40 when weve got effective role players like brent, finley, udoka? whats the point? the spurs are still winning arent they? whats the point of signing these role players if youre gonna let your big 3 play the 35+ minutes? theres no way to prove that ginobili cant play over 35 mins, just like theres no way to proven that he would average 25+ points.

ginobili is a cerebral player, he might not be able to sustain the same level of energy but do you guys think he is incapable of adjusting his game? is he an idiot that willl sprint like he does for 35 minutes? ginobili also plays for his country almost every offseason. we've seen competitive summer basketball effect some of our stars before, so why wouldnt it affect ginobili?
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* Italian League Championship: 2001
* Italian Cup: 2001, 2002
* Euroleague: 2001
* Americas Championship: 2001
* NBA Championship: 2003, 2005, 2007
* Summer Olympic Games gold medal: 2004
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Post#89 » by GuyverX » Mon May 26, 2008 3:44 am

I can't believe people are mentioning VC as being better than Ginobili. VC is washed up.
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Post#90 » by AIfan3 » Mon May 26, 2008 4:15 am

GuyverX wrote:I can't believe people are mentioning VC as being better than Ginobili. VC is washed up.


Because he is..
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Post#91 » by GuyverX » Mon May 26, 2008 4:18 am

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Because he is..


Uh, no. VC is loser and way past his prime. Oh, and the poll is going in Ginobili's favor after game 3. Shocking....short term memory runs rampant.
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Post#92 » by AIfan3 » Mon May 26, 2008 4:19 am

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Uh, no. VC is loser and way past his prime.


A compelling arguement to say the least.. But you'd have to provide me with proof as to why Ginobili should be considered the better player..

And the last time I checked both were born the same year, so If VC is past his prime, Manu should be conisdered past his prime also..
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Post#93 » by snaquille oatmeal » Mon May 26, 2008 4:23 am

snaquille oatmeal wrote:when Manu is healthy his impact on any particular game is just as great as Kobes impact
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Andrew Bynasty wrote:Ummm... Wow.

Not sure what to say to that.

considering that I said on any particular game an not "every game", don't you feel silly now.
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Post#94 » by kdot99 » Mon May 26, 2008 4:23 am

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A compelling arguement to say the least.. But you'd have to provide me with proof as to why Ginobili should be considered the better player..

And the last time I checked both were born the same year, so If VC is past his prime, Manu should be conisdered past his prime also..


Well VC is past his prime (His prime(top 10 player)>>>>Manu's prime, which is now)
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Post#95 » by Nebroc » Mon May 26, 2008 5:48 am

Pistol Pete Vescey wrote:i'd love to see the look on AI or Tmac's face if the coach asked them to come off the bench for the betterment of the team.
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Post#96 » by Pai Gow » Mon May 26, 2008 6:03 am

LOL, Gino is incredible and YES, he is a top 5 SG in this league. Overrate his impact? No, people overrate Duncan's impact on that team more than anything..
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Post#97 » by JellosJigglin » Mon May 26, 2008 7:23 am

Ginobili is a jump shooter. When he makes his outside shots he's great. When he doesn't he's average. Tonights game did nothing to change that.
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Post#98 » by austinjw » Mon May 26, 2008 8:09 am

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Well VC is past his prime (His prime(top 10 player)>>>>Manu's prime, which is now)


Vince may not be in his prime anymore, but the man can still play. He average 21 6 and 5 this past season. That's not to shabby. I mean overall Vince's numbers are better than Manu's and Vince doesn't have the benefit of wide open jumpers resulting from opposing teams doubling the post.

It really is absurd how good people think manu is. Other 2 guards would love to be able to come off the bench and only have to play 30 minutes a night. Unfortunately, these other 2 guards actually have to lead their team, unlike manu. I'm sure vince would love to have a dominant force in the paint so he didn't have to play 40 minutes a night and wouldn't' be the focal point of the opposing defense.
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Post#99 » by Blame Rasho » Mon May 26, 2008 8:18 am

I think VC is being way underrated and is a much better basketball player than people give him credit for but I think he would be a worse basketball player on the Spurs due to Pop.
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Post#100 » by 667Club » Mon May 26, 2008 8:18 am

Who cares about Wince, it's about Manu. Nobody else has such desire to win in this league. Only thing remotely comparable is Kobe Bryant desire to be the best.

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