No one on the Lakers can stop Perkins.

GonzoLays · Post #1 » by **GonzoLays** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 2:53 pm

As weak and pathetic as the Laker frontline line is (in reality they actually start three small forwards) Kendrick Perkins should have a field day with the Lakers.

When you put soft (i.e. Gasol, Odom, and Turiaf) on Perkins he tends to kill the opposition. Look no further than the Detroit series where Perk man-handled McDyess, Rasheed, and Maxiel. We all saw the numbers, 18 pts and 16 boards. And that was against the much, much, much tougher Detroit Pistons. Against soft LA, Perkins will easily average 15 pts and 12 boards per contest because, quite frankly, they don't have a guy that can guard him.

What can LA do to stop Perkins this series? Unless Kareem comes out of retirement, the big three for the Celtics is going to turn into the big four in the finals.

cisco · Post #2 » by **cisco** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 2:59 pm

If Perk can become a consistent offensive threat like he was a few games in the Detroit series, the Lakers are DONE. Don't know if that is going to happen though.

It feels weird talking about who can stop Perk.

, but it also feels great. :clap:

Datruth345 · Post #3 » by **Datruth345** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:01 pm

15 & 12 is a stretch

i'll settle for 10-10

seccom · Post #4 » by **seccom** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:03 pm

He will stop himself.

He average 3.5 fouls in the playoff in only 27 minutes. No starter from either team is closed to that figure.

Tricky Ricky · Post #5 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:06 pm

seccom wrote:He will stop himself.

He average 3.5 fouls in the playoff in only 27 minutes. No starter from either team is closed to that figure.

I was going to say Perk can stop Perk but I think his confidence can help him be a beast in this series

cisco · Post #6 » by **cisco** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:07 pm

seccom wrote:He will stop himself.

He average 3.5 fouls in the playoff in only 27 minutes. No starter from either team is closed to that figure.

Perk has done a pretty good job of staying out of foul trouble. How many times has he actually fouled out in the playoffs?

celticfan42487 · Post #7 » by **celticfan42487** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:08 pm

seccom wrote:He will stop himself.

He average 3.5 fouls in the playoff in only 27 minutes. No starter from either team is closed to that figure.

well played. Yes Perk tends to stop himselfs with fouls.

But if Perk can stay out of foul trouble LA may find their amazing offense having about 8 less chances at a score then ours!

Perk CAN be a huge roleplayer. It's exciting to think he will be battling Odom for offensive rebounds

edit: i can see the refs whistling for push offs now though *sadface*

DorfonCeltics · Post #8 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:21 pm

Great post Gonzo. I think Perk is going to be key in this series. His jump hook and that little fade away has been money in the playoffs. It's funny that he might actually be a go too offensive option for us.

Perk is a beast!

tracey_nice · Post #9 » by **tracey_nice** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:24 pm

How is Turiaf and Odom soft? Or softer than Perkins?

Datruth345 · Post #10 » by **Datruth345** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:36 pm

tracey_nice wrote:How is Turiaf and Odom soft? Or softer than Perkins?

watch and see

GreenOkie · Post #11 » by **GreenOkie** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:41 pm

odom can ONLY go left, and turiaf is a soft european.

LongTimeFan · Post #12 » by **LongTimeFan** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:50 pm

I think Perk can be huge, because he is huge.

DA put his standing reach at 9' 4 1/2". That's a half inch less than Shaq's reach. His body is ripped. We've seen what he can do in the Detroit game.

Perk is young and emotional. But it's like they say, you can't coach height.

daveisceltics · Post #13 » by **daveisceltics** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:00 pm

Perkins would eat all those guys alive.
Especially Turiaf.

s1ickd · Post #14 » by **s1ickd** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:09 pm

this topic title is a bit of an overstatement, but there is a little bit of truth to it.

in single coverage, Perkins can back people down and try to get off that hook shot. The problem is, one swipe at the ball from a temporarily collapsing defender causes problems for Perk.

Don't underestimate the Lakers' team defense. We're talking Phil Jackson here... not Flip Saunders and Mike Woodson.

seccom · Post #15 » by **seccom** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:19 pm

daveisceltics wrote:Perkins would eat all those guys alive.
Especially Turiaf.

If Duncan did not eat them alive, especially Turiaf, somehow, Perkins could?

lojowo · Post #16 » by **lojowo** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:20 pm

s1ickd wrote:
Don't underestimate the Lakers' team defense. We're talking Phil Jackson here... not Flip Saunders and Mike Woodson.

Sorry, when I think of Phil Jackson, I think of the Triangle Offense, not defense.

I also think Phil wins when he has 2 ( Jordan-Pippen or Oneal-Bryant )of the 3 to 5 best players on the planet on his team, and I dont think Kobe's current running mates rate that high. Maybe its a deeper team, but not as top heavy with the elite 2.

Tricky Ricky · Post #17 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:22 pm

seccom wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If Duncan did not eat them alive, especially Turiaf, somehow, Perkins could?

Duncan is the best player on the Spurs, Im guessing he got doubled a little bit, KG is the best player on the Cs Im guessing he will be the one doubled if any not Perk

tracey_nice · Post #18 » by **tracey_nice** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:27 pm

GreenOkie wrote:odom can ONLY go left, and turiaf is a soft european.

I didn't know going left and being tough are mutually exclusive, and Turiaf is definitely not soft.

And, the Lakers in the playoffs were a top 5 defensive team, even though they played against 2 high powered offenses, and the Spurs.

Dr Aki · Post #19 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:29 pm

GreenOkie wrote:odom can ONLY go left, and turiaf is a soft european.

i guess you havent seen lamar odom: playoff edition with the special right handed drive technique!

turiaf soft? he tougher than odom and gasol

Tricky Ricky wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Duncan is the best player on the Spurs, Im guessing he got doubled a little bit, KG is the best player on the Cs Im guessing he will be the one doubled if any not Perk

maybe at the end of game 1

but in all honesty, gasol did a pretty good job 1v1 on duncan

lojowo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Sorry, when I think of Phil Jackson, I think of the Triangle Offense, not defense.

I also think Phil wins when he has 2 ( Jordan-Pippen or Oneal-Bryant )of the 3 to 5 best players on the planet on his team, and I dont think Kobe's current running mates rate that high. Maybe its a deeper team, but not as top heavy with the elite 2.

lakers arent top 2 (boston/houston) but they are top 5/6 (depending where you put the cavs)

on topic though:

yes perkins poses a problem and if he grabs anywhere near 10rpg, lakers have a real problem

buts its still a stretch to consider him a true post option considering he gets most of his points from putbacks and roaming off KG (of which those of you thinking KG will get doubled are wrong, hes going to be played straight up the same way you guys will play kobe straight up)

Post #20 » by **canman1971** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:32 pm

It is not the fact that Perk is going to beat guys 1v1, it is more when the Lakers double off him, he will make you pay both in points and offensive rebounds. Also, defense is where I feel Perk is most important. He clogs the middle. As long as he stays out of foul trouble, the Lakers will not be getting much in the middle.