Not quite MVP

Post #1 » by **rrravenred** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:23 am

Jerry West. John Havlicek. Jason Kidd. Patrick Ewing. Clyde Drexler. Elgin Baylor.

None of these players have MVPs, although most are considered to be elite, if not legendary players.

Who do people think are the best non-MVP players, and WHY did they not gain that final accolade? What x-factor was missing?

Patterns · Post #2 » by **Patterns** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:29 am

West was never the best player in the league. There was always someone better. Havlicek is overrated at RealGM. He's not an MVP caliber player and does not have MVP numbers. Kidd was in his prime when Duncan was in his prime. Ewing was a second class big man behind Hakeem, Robinson, and Shaq. Drexler was far below Jordan. When Baylor played, the MVP went to either Wilt, Russell or Oscar.

Baller 24 · Post #3 » by **Baller 24** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:32 am

Patterns wrote:West was never the best player in the league. There was always someone better. Havlicek is overrated at RealGM. He's not an MVP caliber player and does not have MVP numbers. Kidd was in his prime when Duncan was in his prime. Ewing was a second class big man behind Hakeem, Robinson, and Shaq. Drexler was far below Jordan. When Baylor played, the MVP went to either Wilt, Russell or Oscar.

Couldn't have summed it up any better.

Post #4 » by **penbeast0** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:33 am

Patterns wrote: When Baylor played, the MVP went to either Wilt, Russell or Oscar.

Or two time MVP Bob Pettit, who competed directly with Baylor at forward

Patterns · Post #5 » by **Patterns** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:35 am

penbeast0 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Or two time MVP Bob Pettit, who competed directly with Baylor at forward

Pettit won it when Baylor was a rookie.

Post #6 » by **rrravenred** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:38 am

Any other suggestions as to "Almost" MVPs? And I think you're selling Ewing short very slightly, pre-knee...

MVP is very "Highlander" in that "there can be only one", but the question I suppose is how you qualify and quantify MVP awards...

War3player · Post #7 » by **War3player** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 2:57 am

McGrady's been high on the MPV balloting for the last 8 years or so (minus 1 year in HOU where he was out pretty much the entire season). The reason he's never got it was because his teams were never at the top or near the top of the standings.

Kush · Post #8 » by **Kush** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 3:30 am

Jason Kidd is easily the best player to have never won MVP... top 5 PG all-time.

Post #9 » by **TMU** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 3:35 am

Imo Jerry West was the best player in 1970.

massey1992 · Post #10 » by **massey1992** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:19 pm

JKidd easily.

A.J. · Post #11 » by **A.J.** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:36 pm

Ewing and Drexler>Kidd