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Gomes3PC wrote:Who else but Paul Pierce. He left us for dead in the 1st half, only to completely turn around the game in the 2nd half. It seems more and more that even if KG has a great game we can lose, but if Pierce has a great game we are unstoppable.
Honorable mention to KG and PJ.
RickyDizzle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Did you really misinterpret his post that bad? The 3 pts he is refering to are not his 3 pt shooting over the course of the game, he was talking about his 3 pt first half. He then goes on to talk about his good second half and how it was needed to win the game.
The 3 threes he made were awesome, but my vote would go to PJ, with KG second and PP third.
I hope he is ready to play sunday...
...but lay off Jammer, what he said made sense. Pierce made some big plays but KG anchored the D had a good overall game despite going cold for that one stretch in the second half.
What PP did in the second half is what KG was doing in the first half when PP had disappeared...its easier to value the second half more since thats what closed out the game, but without KG we wouldnt have been close enough going into the second half for PP to take over.
-Dizzy
RickyDizzle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Did you really misinterpret his post that bad? The 3 pts he is refering to are not his 3 pt shooting over the course of the game, he was talking about his 3 pt first half. He then goes on to talk about his good second half and how it was needed to win the game.
...but lay off Jammer, what he said made sense. Pierce made some big plays but KG anchored the D had a good overall game despite going cold for that one stretch in the second half.
What PP did in the second half is what KG was doing in the first half when PP had disappeared...its easier to value the second half more since thats what closed out the game, but without KG we wouldnt have been close enough going into the second half for PP to take over.
-Dizzy
sully00 wrote:Thanks for proving my point Rondo fan, KG's shooting kept the Lakers in the game in the second half.
He was guarding either Odom or Gasol both were killing us in the first half and both shot over 50% for the game. Some of that was on blown pick and rolls mostly by Posey but all the same it was the defense on Kobe that was the difference and that was Ray, Posey and Pierce.
Like I said I thought KG had a great game and was an even choice with Pierce and I can even see going for PJ. I just think it is crap to feel the need to put Pierce down to justify some other choice, especially after how the night played out, unless your trying to justify something else.
sully00 wrote:Pierce obviously is getting a ton of votes over the drama but you are dismissing the fact that his scoring was the difference in the second half. Just like it was against CLE in game 7 and just like it was in the 4ht quarter of game 6 against DET. Dude scored 19 points on 6 shots.
His personal 8-2 run at the beggining of the 2nd erased the Laker lead.
He then returns to the game and goes on a 6-0 run that establishes the lead.
Then after KG bricks two chances to put the Lakers away and allowing them back in Pierce hits a jumper to put us up to stay.
There have been plenty of games this season and post season that KG was the guy drilling those shots, but last night it was Pierce.
But look at KG for a minute. Like I say, if some guys have a tough guard, you start hearing excuses before the game about how they won't have anything left to give at the other end, so don't expect much, etc. Yet here's a guy who is expected to expend more energy on defense than any other guy on our squad night after night, and he does, yet he is still leading our team on the offensive end, too! He has been our leading scorer in 16 out of 21 playoff games.
sully00 wrote:But look at KG for a minute. Like I say, if some guys have a tough guard, you start hearing excuses before the game about how they won't have anything left to give at the other end, so don't expect much, etc. Yet here's a guy who is expected to expend more energy on defense than any other guy on our squad night after night, and he does, yet he is still leading our team on the offensive end, too! He has been our leading scorer in 16 out of 21 playoff games.
On plenty of nights you may have a point but not last night. KG was volume shooting and doing a crappy job and roaming on defense. He was great on the glass but you seem to think KG should get credit in the Victory Cigar poll for being KG and what he means to this team on not on how he played last night which is what the award is about.
Trust me listen to the man's own words describing his play. He knows he should have gone for 30-35 points easy last night and you know what I don't doubt he will before this thing is over.
Rondo_Fan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I agree with your assessment of what I'm saying. Pierce's shooting in the second half was not the reason that we won the game. It was dramatic, but I am categorically dismissing it as the reason that we won the game.
We won the game with defense and rebounding, period. L.A. was 13 of 19 in the second half, and lost all night on the boards.
How can you say that Pierce's blitz in the 3rd quarter won us the game, when we went into the second half of the 4th quarter up by 6 points? The game is not won at that point. Far from it. Whatever heroics may have happened before, you definitely have not won the game against Kobe Bryant when you are leading by only a handful of points with half the fourth quarter to go. The game needs to be won by tough defense at the end of the 4th, and that's what we did.
Look, if we win the trophy, and I think we will, there is nobody on this team that I am going to be happier for than Paul Pierce. There is nobody that is going to deserve it as much, nobody else on the team who has done as much for the city and basketball in Boston as him. It's going to be his night, no question. He's going to get everybody's applause, deservedly so, and mine included.
But look at KG for a minute. Like I say, if some guys have a tough guard, you start hearing excuses before the game about how they won't have anything left to give at the other end, so don't expect much, etc. Yet here's a guy who is expected to expend more energy on defense than any other guy on our squad night after night, and he does, yet he is still leading our team on the offensive end, too! He has been our leading scorer in 16 out of 21 playoff games.
You guys think that I don't get it about Pierce. Well, I think that you don't get it about KG. I'm not sure you even realize what you're getting a chance to see here. This is amazing stuff.
