brandon wright and #14 available??

[giberish]

Baron, Al and #14 for Sheed, Rip and Maxiell works in the trade checker (as does Sheed, Billups and Maxiell). Trade ID #4641227

PG: Monta
SG: Hamilton
SF: Jack
PF: Sheed
C: Andris
Resign Azu&Barnes for cheap, find some LLE PG (Boykins, Johnson) and roll with a bench of Azu, Barnes, [LLE PG], Belli, Wright, Kosta, Maxiell, [2nd rounder], CJ or some other D-Leaguer.

EDIT to clarify: I'm well aware that Detroit would never do this trade. How could they use Baron and Billups at the same time... I'm just throwing things around that make me happy. And if we swap Hamilton for Billups, it might even work. Monta would stay at the 2 (which sucks) and we'd have to take the 4 years of Billups contract (which also sucks), but it might be worth it.

If you want to do something similar that sort-of makes sense for Detroit -

GS trades Baron + Al + Belinelli for Hamilton + Wallace
LAC trades Maggette + Mobley + #7 for Baron + Belinelli
NYK trades Curry for Al
Det trades Hamilton + Wallace for Maggette + Mobley + Curry + #7

The LAC part has already been talked about a lot, and I'm sure the D'Antoni Knicks trade Curry for Harrington. This gives Detroit a starting center (letting Maxiel and Johnson play more PF) and a replacement sg. They also get a high draft pick to add a new young player.

Of course Detroit has to like Curry at least a little to make the deal, which probably kills it.

[Warriors Analyst]

Man, the bucks board is delusional. They think that Wright/14 for Yi isn't worth it on their side. They're asking Belinelli as well and some of them even seem to under the impression that Ellis may be equal value.

And to quote on poster on Ellis:

Monta Ellis would be a tremendous bust playing a grind it out defensive scheme in the east. What some people fail to realize is that certain players excel in a certain system and would fail miserably in a different system.....Ellis is where he belongs.

[FNQ]

To be fair to their board though, there is only the same 3 or 4 very well informed posters saying Yi is clearly a better prospect than Wright, talking about Yi's star potential... the same loudmouths who were trolling around here when Yi had a good shooting game and weren't seen ONCE after November.

There is a very large chunk of them who are very sensible... but that Ellis quote came from one of the bigger joke accounts there.

My favorite quote is that "Everyone can agree that Yi is a far better prospect than Wright" - also by the guy who made the Ellis quote.

Another favorite thing I like to see there is misinformation said as fact, by another Bucks troll... says that Yi is longer than Wright. Last time I checked, 7'3.5" is less than 7'5.5".

Poor Bernman.. his logic is being overrun by blind homerism. But he's dead on in most of his posts.

[Mylie10]

The Yi rumor pisses me off and if we do that I'll be trashing Nellie and Mullins cars at Oracle.

Wright and number 14 are worth a ton to me. Wright has so much potential, that throwing him into deals is crazy. He hasn't even scratched his surface as to how good he'll be.

And i see # 14 as being a very productive player if we do our homework. Yi is just not good enough to make a crazy move for.

[old rem]

Wright strikes me as a kid who understands the game and finds a way he can make an impact. I don't quite see that in Yo. He's a tall guy who's learned some skills but he's not near as quick mentally or physically and while he is bigger-it's not like he knows how to make that a factor.

We might waste #14

We might turn it into an asset or assets ( trade down options) that help us for many many years. We can't plan based on the assumption we are inept and careless and will remain so. We also can't harbor illusions that we can take one of the rawest projects and make something happen.

Liquidating assets? We'd need to strip to the bones to have clear cap room to bid for a top FA. That concept gets suggested for a lot of teams but it's seldom done. You probably need to gut a team so much it's sub-playoff grade. Then does a star choose your stipped down shell over anyone else-including his current team that can pay more?

You can go the Knicks path..overbid on damaged goods,fading "reputation" types,toss around $8-9 mill deals for guys who had one semi-good year or MIGHT find a starting slot on a not so good team.
Didn't work for NYK even though they spent like they had a sack of stolen Visa cards.

As Mylie says ....if we do our homework.

There's a few value picks in every draft. when you pick a guy at #20 and he turns out worth #10....you turned a profit.

There has to be some teamwork between the front office and the coach+staff. If we get the Next P Millsap...the Next Monta Ellis,but treat him like POB/Lasme....we got nuthin'

[Chris Cohan]

Hi old rem,

I wanted to mention something about free agents and Warrior cap space.

Even if the Warriors commit to Biedrins and Ellis at $20 million + cumulative beginning this coming season, there will be $25 million coming off the books in the form of Baron and Foyle next offseason and then another $15 million from Jackson and Harrington the year after that.

That's the plan. It's pretty good. But I'd still like to draft some of the great players this year who will be ready to roll in two years at the latest with actual investment in their development. I like the draft youth now moves that are there to be done, but only if the vets we move out result in equal or perhaps better flexibility on the same basic timeline.

[Left*My*Heart]

The Warriors have no history of developing big men. If we draft a 4 or 5, they better be ready to play.