Why do nobody want Avery Johnson?

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Re: Why do nobody want Avery Johnson? 

Post#21 » by Speedlot » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:37 am

GJense4181 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Why does nobody want Avery Johnson?*

He showed big interest in the Bulls after they got the first pick, with Detroit, and with the Suns when their jobs were still available.*

Literacy. Get it.


Good job being a jerk.

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Re: Why do nobody want Avery Johnson? 

Post#22 » by bigkevatoz » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:10 am

GJense4181 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Why does nobody want Avery Johnson?*

He showed big interest in the Bulls after they got the first pick, with Detroit, and with the Suns when their jobs were still available.*

Literacy. Get it.


why be such a dick for?
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Post#23 » by RTM » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:30 am

It's absurd to think race has to do with him not having a job... Michael Curry and Terry Porter didn't seem to struggle with it.

It's not like every team spurning him to hire Fred Hoiberg for crying out loud.
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Post#24 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:19 am

obinna wrote:I can't see why Avery Johnson is not getting offers. I really want to play the race card but I'll let it go this time. That Dallas team overachieved to me. He made them into one of the best defensive teams in the NBA with a team Pau Gasols. Mark Cuban is the reason they sucked this year. He made a panic trade and now his team is paying the price. Devin Harris was getting better every year. I hope Dallas becomes a cellar team. Not Avery fault.


Oh play it...please

How about if Atlanta passes on Coach Woodson? It's not going to happen, but if it does, I fully expect you to play it! Don't miss out on two times during one offseason now...that'd be awful. :wink:
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Post#25 » by Hood President » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:11 am

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Oh play it...please

How about if Atlanta passes on Coach Woodson? It's not going to happen, but if it does, I fully expect you to play it! Don't miss out on two times during one offseason now...that'd be awful. :wink:


it aint racism if black folks dont like him ether.
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Post#26 » by erdamon » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:15 pm

Because he too much of a micro-manager that can't handle any lose of control. That style just wears on teams so he has a short shelf life. And he showed very little ability to adapt his style to his players. Instead he tried to force his players to adapt to him.
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Post#27 » by ATRAIN53 » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:55 pm

i think the 2 first round losses in the 07 and 08 playoffs have a lot to do with him being passed over.

the Josh 'puff' Howard situation didn' help his case

and then there could be some financial responsibility for the $4 mil per year he is still owed.

look at what a young new coach will sign for now > $2mil per year
why pay 2x that for Avery?
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Post#28 » by Duncanfan » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:02 pm

A micromanager like him doesn't have a long shelf life.. couple that with his less than innovative offense which basically involves ISO's, I don't think he has that good of a coach longterm. Besides, he has shown to be a very bad man manager, so I am not at all surprised.
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Post#29 » by Don Draper » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:12 pm

Isn't Larry Brown a mircomanager?

I guess getting your team to the finals, having the best record in NBA, and turning a Nelliball team into a solid defensive team means nothing nowadays...

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Post#30 » by A.J. » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:13 pm

Somebody does want Avery.

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Post#31 » by sonny » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:20 pm

obinna wrote:I'm reaching for my card...


Even though we've seen two black coaches hired in the past week?

You sure the Mavs first round losses the past two years have nothing to do with it.
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Post#32 » by Don Draper » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:25 pm

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Even though we've seen two black coaches hired in the past week?

You sure the Mavs first round losses the past two years have nothing to do with it.


Umm... but for him not to get another job.

Avery > Vinny
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Post#33 » by sonny » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:30 pm

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Umm... but for him not to get another job.

Avery > Vinny


So we should've hired a coach that was fired for the same reasons we got rid of Skiles?

And Dwayne Casey and Chuck Person were two of the 3 finalists. Tyrone Corbin was given top consideration and we asked for permission to talk to Mike Curry but the Pistons refused to give it to us.
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Post#34 » by Malinhion » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:49 pm

Racist GMs.

He is the best coach available for just about every squad on earth. Argue with a .700 win percentage (including playoffs) in the West, and an NBA Finals appearance in three seasons.
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Post#35 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:52 pm

Is it because GM's think his affinity for gumbo affect his decision making?
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Post#36 » by UGA Hayes » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:53 pm

^ I think in chicago's case its likely about money. Pheonix was going to hire Porter no matter what. Detroit is the only surprising one though given that Detroit has to have paid a lot of money to previously fired coaches over the years he probably too expensive for them as well. The team I would pay attention to is Atlanta and Golden State. The only guy left out there who might compete with him for a job is Thibideau.
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Post#37 » by chrbal » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:30 pm

Money and the "Right situation". I'm guessing the Pistons job was Currys' for quite some time now. The Suns gig is either going to be really good for a year or two...or just be a really bad situation. Shaq is playing for a ring and is a shell of his former self.

Not to mention, your starters; Hill, Stoudmire, O'neal, Nash and Bell. Not to bad.

Your bench; Barbosa and Bell. Thats good. Then you have a whole lot of ehh.... Gordon Girciek fit really well, but that kind of seems like "new car smell". Guy suddenly joins a new team and plays above his level. Then new coach/style comes in and suddenly that same guy doesn't seem as effective.

The Bulls. I've got to think they didn't want to spend that much. Because, I really think that would have a great match.

Knicks. I wouldn't want to take that over for a couple years. There is just too much of a mess to clean up.
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Post#38 » by sonny » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:15 pm

chrbal wrote:The Bulls. I've got to think they didn't want to spend that much. Because, I really think that would have a great match.


The Bulls wanted to go in a different direction with their new coach. Going after Dan Tony shows that.

Johnson was too similar to Skiles and many wouldn't be happy with him calling every play on the sideline for Rose like he did with Harris and Kidd.
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Post#39 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:52 pm

Cliff Levingston is personally very happy that we didn't hire Johnson. No need to get another drill sergeant to coach after having just fired one.

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