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Post#181 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:43 am

New Orleans portays Phoenix... and Portland continues to be Portland...

The Portland Trail Blazers will acquire the 27th pick in the draft from New Orleans in exchange for cash considerations, according to a report from ESPN.

The deal was agreed to verbally between the two teams on Tuesday night, according to the source. The teams have scheduled a trade call with the league in the morning to make the deal official.


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Would of been nice to get that, heh
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Post#182 » by Sacramento_King » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:33 am

Ballings7 wrote:New Orleans portays Phoenix... and Portland continues to be Portland...

The Portland Trail Blazers will acquire the 27th pick in the draft from New Orleans in exchange for cash considerations, according to a report from ESPN.

The deal was agreed to verbally between the two teams on Tuesday night, according to the source. The teams have scheduled a trade call with the league in the morning to make the deal official.


http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... o_blazers/

Would of been nice to get that, heh


You have one of the hottest casinos in Vegas. A team in desperate need of some talent. An arguably decent draft at the end of the 1st. Trying to work out an arena deal and you cant buy a pick. Cmon Maloofs.
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Post#183 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:36 am

No kidding! All it took was CASH for a decent pick at the end of the 1st? Here we are hoping that our 2 2nd round picks will be enough to get a late pick in the 1st...and all it took is CASH? :nonono:
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Post#184 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:41 am

Somebody needs to win the lottery and send some of the money to the Maloofs with a letter of intent
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Post#185 » by Cruel_Ruin » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:52 am

Or just realize that Paul Allen's pockets could swallow all of the Maloof's skyscraper casinos whole.
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Post#186 » by KF10 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:10 am

Cruel_Ruin wrote:Or just realize that Paul Allen's pockets could swallow all of the Maloof's skyscraper casinos whole.


Eh, regardless, the Maloofs are FRKIN billionaires. They own VARIOUS things. Come on, they used to own the Houston Rockets franchise. If it took a couple of million from the Maloofs to get a decent pick (A late 1st rounder) you have to by the available pick. We just can't let things go pass by us. We have to be both smart and having a general interest of the team's future.
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Post#187 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:21 am

Lightning Strike wrote:Jordan has more potential then Wright from what I've seen of his videos and scouting reports, but the analagy is right.

Anyways... will he be in the green room? I don' rmemeber if he was on the list or not.



In order for a guy like Jordan to fulfill his potential he has to have some kind of work ethic. He hasn't shown that so far. If he had, I would be very much behind picking him, but as it stands, meh.
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Post#188 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:22 am

Lightning Strike wrote:Jordan has more potential then Wright from what I've seen of his videos and scouting reports, but the analagy is right.

Anyways... will he be in the green room? I don' rmemeber if he was on the list or not.



In order for a guy like Jordan to fulfill his potential he has to have some kind of work ethic. He hasn't shown that so far. If he had, I would be very much behind picking him, but as it stands, I really don't see any chance he fulfills his potential--at least not with his current attitude.
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Post#189 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:37 am

Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.
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Post#190 » by KF10 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:42 am

mitchweber wrote:Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.


That would be a good/funny situation for us. If that happens, would we do the trade? I consider it.
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Post#191 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:43 am

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mitchweber wrote:Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.


That would be a good/funny situation for us. If that happens, would we do the trade? I consider it.


It pretty much depends on who we like at a given spot. If Geoff likes somebody at 13 (be it Arthur, Hibbert, whoever) as much as he likes Alexander/Westbrook/whoever Portland likes, then I think it's a no-brainer.
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Post#192 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:50 am

Underrated:

Darrell Arthur (Kansas)

Darrell Arthur Multitalented, long and athletic, Arthur is an extremely promising prospect at the power forward position. Though plagued by inconsistency at times, Arthur enjoys incredible athleticism, soft hands, a nice face-up game and a silky turnaround jumper.

When able to gather the slightest bit of forward momentum, Arthur gets off the pine with lightning quickness, thunderously finishing at the rim when in or around the painted area. If paired up with a talented point guard, he could become an explosive pick and roll weapon.

Arthur was on a tremendously balanced Kansas squad where almost anybody in their rotation was capable of leading the team in scoring on any given night, thus limiting his opportunities to dominate nightly.

If given the chance to be a true focal point in an offense, Arthur could develop into a go-to guy in the low post at the next level.

"Shady" is a guy with lottery-level talent, but is expected to be available in the late teens of the first round. If he lasts that long, Arthur could very well become one of the steals of the draft.


http://www.nbadraft.net/node/1232

Just to add to the stuff about Arthur (which didn't even go into his defensive game).

Get this guy on this team, Geoff. He's gonna be a good one (at least favors to be). If not with us, going to be quite glad for whoever selects him, and pay attention to that team some more than I used to.

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Interesting overrated list there.

The write-up about Kevin Love sums up how I feel on him pretty well... he really needs to be complemented significantly, or there's going to be too much exposure, and incompatability with who he's playing. Which is why I thought if we did get to draft him, his fate would have to be that of a trade piece eventually. And I'd rather go with other pick options than that scenario, anyway.
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Re: Players worked out by Kings...Official 2008 Draft Thread 

Post#193 » by KF10 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:53 am

mitchweber wrote:
kingsfan10 wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.


That would be a good/funny situation for us. If that happens, would we do the trade? I consider it.


It pretty much depends on who we like at a given spot. If Geoff likes somebody at 13 (be it Arthur, Hibbert, whoever) as much as he likes Alexander/Westbrook/whoever Portland likes, then I think it's a no-brainer.


Agreed.
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Re: Players worked out by Kings...Official 2008 Draft Thread 

Post#194 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:02 am

mitch wrote:Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.


Wow, pretty good thought... I think that's a possibilty, but kind of tough to say because of the situations with Alexander and Westbrook ahead of us.
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Re: Players worked out by Kings...Official 2008 Draft Thread 

Post#195 » by RoyalCourtJestr » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:53 pm

mitchweber wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:Jordan has more potential then Wright from what I've seen of his videos and scouting reports, but the analagy is right.

Anyways... will he be in the green room? I don' rmemeber if he was on the list or not.



In order for a guy like Jordan to fulfill his potential he has to have some kind of work ethic. He hasn't shown that so far. If he had, I would be very much behind picking him, but as it stands, meh.


I agree. my biggest worry about him is his personality. But I think it's less of a fear, he didn't exactly have the best relationship with his college coach and I imagine he'll be eger to work with someone new. Alas, it is a good point.

If I were to trade down with Portland, it wouldn't be to let them have Westbrook XD Or are you saying that whoever Portland WANTS to take isn't Westbrook? XD
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Post#196 » by deNIEd » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:35 pm

mitchweber wrote:Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.


I've said this idea before. If Portland doesn't move up, and say Westbrook or Alexander is available (just one), and we know that Portland wants them, we go and force a trade, possibly not with the 27th, but maybe with one of their early 2nd's? 33 or 36.

#12 for #13 & # 36, very realistic. And if Petrie truly is wanting to draft either a Arthur/Speights/Hibbert, the trade is a win win for us.


About Jordan, I still think we should take a gamble and obtain another mid-late 1st and take the kid. Salmons should be able to net us a pick around the range that Jordan will be available. The way I see it, Best case scenario, we find ourselves a top 5 Center in the league. Worst case scenario, we trade Salmons for an expiring. Likely scenario, we find a good backup.
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Post#197 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:47 pm

deNIEd wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Kind of a shrewd idea, but since it's pretty clear that Portland acquired that pick to help themselves move up, what if, under the circumstance that Westbrook or Alexander is available at 12, we get them by the balls and threaten to draft their guy unless they offer us the #13 and #27 picks? Just a thought.


I've said this idea before. If Portland doesn't move up, and say Westbrook or Alexander is available (just one), and we know that Portland wants them, we go and force a trade, possibly not with the 27th, but maybe with one of their early 2nd's? 33 or 36.

#12 for #13 & # 36, very realistic. And if Petrie truly is wanting to draft either a Arthur/Speights/Hibbert, the trade is a win win for us.


About Jordan, I still think we should take a gamble and obtain another mid-late 1st and take the kid. Salmons should be able to net us a pick around the range that Jordan will be available. The way I see it, Best case scenario, we find ourselves a top 5 Center in the league. Worst case scenario, we trade Salmons for an expiring. Likely scenario, we find a good backup.



You don't just trade away value like that for a big question mark unless you actually think he'll be a good player. Having said that....

As a result of my continuous efforts to obtain the latest inside information, it is now this writer’s opinion that DeAndre Jordan has substantially impressed teams with how well he has presented himself in private workouts (with Sacramento and Phoenix) and his stock is on the rise!


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Post#198 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:58 pm

It helps him, but there's still quite a bit of perspective lacking for him.
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Post#199 » by UKF » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:07 pm

Sam Amick - Sacramento Bee wrote:The Kings may never wind up picking twelfth, as they are considering trading the pick to possibly get two picks late in the first round.
That's the hope, anyway, just as they wouldn't mind moving up a few spots to all but guarantee that the likes of D.J. Augustin would be there. It's safe to say they're not thrilled about their current spot.

The prospect of the Kings possibly moving up or down is not a new one, but I'm being told it's more likely this year than most. The thinking, in general, is that picking No. 12 means they're just out of reach of the players they want most (Augustin, Jerryd Bayless, Danilo Gallinari, Joe Alexander) and could bolster the youth movement by getting two first-rounders. You may give up a bit on the quality of talent, but the quantity is preferred.

If they stand pat, Anthony Randolph remains a likely selection based on everything I've heard. The fact that Randolph wouldn't work out for the Kings is irrelevant in terms of whether or not they'd pick him. If Randolph is gone, Roy Hibbert could - contrary to all mock drafts - be the guy at No. 12 as well.


There are few people that I would believe in the media, and Sam Amick is one of those guys. So he is not making this up. Sam is definitly in the know. So what do you guys think about that? Trading for two later first round picks? If we gave up our 12th pick there is only one team that has two picks in the 1st round after us, the Portland Trailblazers (13th and 27th). We would have to give up more than just our 1st pick, probably both of the 2nd rouders and maybe even a player.

Anybody else have any ideas?..Smills..???
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Post#200 » by Ballings7 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:21 pm

Arthur continues to get overlooked, basically there. I just hope and kind of think what Amick is going off of is the mocks and sites significantly in this piece.

I don't think there's doubt in Arthur being a top canidate for us, regardless, though.

Outside of value, I don't get any of the Gallinari interest/discussion I've seen over the last couple months for us.. yes, he's talented offensively, but there are concerns, and negatives about his defense, speed in the NBA, and being a starting SF or not because of that. Gallinari I would see as another value piece for us because he doesn't complement Kevin nearly enough. Our starting wing-defense would be pretty insufficient with those two. No defensive, toughness presence. Kevin can defend decently and occasionally better than that, but he won't be the defender you need on the wings in this league. Neither will Gallinari. And again, both think offense first and more over defense.

In the situation we'd be looking for a guy to pair with Kevin, I'll choose an emerging role-player like Bruce Bowen, over a player like Gallinari next to Kevin, any day.

Continue to just not understand at all, all the Hibbert talk. Which also indicates to me Amick has been talking to the draft sites. Thus maybe helping his need to fill up his article in spots.
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