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Post#1 » by DubaLakers » Sun Jul 6, 2008 6:50 am

I hate the waiting during FA signings. A few things I noticed as we wait impatiently...

The NYK signed another PG, you can never have too many PG's I guess,
and I think the Knicks have nearly 10 bad ones. Duhon is a nice pickup.
A legit PG who can play above average D, 6M is too much though, full MLE.

Arenas inked a 100 million dollar contract. I can't remember the last time
a player coming off a nasty injury like that, who was only able to get a few
bad playoff games in last season on one leg no less, was signed that quickly
and that well paid, seemed like a high risk move to me. Will Mitch follow suit,
or have a clearer head re AB17 that provides nearly the same scenario?

Bynum's a-hole agent thinks AB17 should get a max out contract, how many of us
wanted to take that cat behind the woodshed and beat the living shi^ out of him?

Sasha, and Ronnie, were offered extentions as restricted FA, the Lakers have the right
to match, that's the only reason clubs aren't coming hard for these guys if they were
unrestricted they'd be getting a lot more interest. Restricted has GM's thinking the Lakers
will match any offer to keep the two. However, I think Sasha is gone: He was looking for
more $ and a bigger role, Mitch signed Joe Crawford a 6-4 SG scorer in the draft, now
Mitch is supposedly interested in Brent Barry, another SG off the bench...All signs point to
Sasha's and his Lisa Estrada headband walking away if you ask me.

It sure will be fun watching TEAM USA pawn the Euro's, finally TEAM USA has a near
perfect ball club. Finally I love the player mix, plus my favorite college coach K is in charge.
D12's back injury is a concern, but they still got enough to bring home the trophy.

I think Cleveland is going to forced to trade LBJ prematurely. He's gone anyway,
why not get what you can now for him? It's going to be the #1 story all next year.
It's going to be an annoying story as much as they are going to talk about it,
NJN (Brooklyn) or the NYK? Will anyone else be able to wine and dine him cap wise?
I think he's getting the MVP next year, it's gonna be all about LBJ next year. Now that
Kobe got his I can care less about the damn award anymore. LBJ is the strongest most
atheltic guard in the league, everything is so easy and effortless, he looked even better
than he did last season. Cleveland will feel the pressure and they'll bite the bullet and
ship him out for the sexiest package deal.

However, he's not winning the ultimate prize however, the LOB, that will be in KB24's
hands at this time next year.

Lastly, Mitch sign somebody already, and no Euro's either, either they can't play D
worth a damn, or they think they are better than they really are and want the huge
coin to match.

:nod: Go Lakers! :nod:
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Post#2 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Jul 6, 2008 7:04 am

I agree Dub, the Cavs are in a even worse situation then the Lakers was with Kobe. With all the LBJ to New Jersey or New York drama and him not killing it at all has got to make Cav fans worry. Bet on it he's opting out next summer along with Kobe,and Wade .As we know the Cavs will not win in any trade, big name stars are never traded for equal value.
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Post#3 » by dub81 » Sun Jul 6, 2008 7:23 am

Honestly, I can't stand Sasha, he's got alot of people on the blog bamboozled. He's got a j, but I can't stand guys who flop, and he's a super flopper. I can't respect that from a man. He looks like he plays tough d. But he does not, he's soft.

Also during the interview in the finals, he said that the Celtics play to physical. wtf????????
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Post#4 » by dockingsched » Sun Jul 6, 2008 7:29 am

he didn't say that. that was just you not reading the article and falling for one of realgm's many irresponsible headlines.
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Post#5 » by Minhee » Sun Jul 6, 2008 7:47 am

I think Sasha might be gone as well, the only reason why teams aren't targeting Sasha and Ronny is because everybody is waiting for tier 1 and tier 2 FA to be signed. Sasha and Ronny are in tier 3....why would teams waste their money and time to put an offer on the table when the Lakers can take the full allowed time to match. Teams will not target Sasha/Ronny until most the FA's from the top tiers are gone.

Regarding LBJ, I am the minority that strongly believe that he will stay in cleveland. LBJ is just playing it smart by not killing off any rumors. He Loves NYC and he loves NJ because of J-Zay, that isn't a secret. He wants to keep all his options open. He wants everyone to play the guessing game, obviously he will opt out next summer because there is a big payday. Him, Wade and Melo purposely signed a 3-4 year deal just so they can get rich in 2010. Why would Lebron leave Cleveland? It is his hometown state, they already went to the NBA finals with the likes of Big Z, Varaejo, Sasha, etc. Do not forget he took the NBA champs to 7 games and they were only down by 1 point with 90 seconds to play. They were a few bounces and defensive stops away from eliminating the Celtics. They probably could have elminated Detroit because they already proven that. He is only 23 years old and the game of basketball is so easy for him. He powers his way to the rim for the dunk or AND 1 as if he is walking around his living room. Imagine if and when Cleveland finally lands that costar next to him. Everybody is saying Cavs cant land anyone, well everyone said the same with the Lakers with Kobe. People said Lakers have no asset, nobody will be dumb enough to send them a sidekick for Kobe. Well Kwame's contract landed us Gasol. Ben Wallace has a terrible contract and it is comming off the books soon, the Cavs can work their magic as well. In the end I see LBJ resigning with the Cavs for maximum dollar.
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Post#6 » by Rox_Nix_Nox » Sun Jul 6, 2008 10:33 am

dcash4 wrote:falling for one of realgm's many irresponsible headlines.


Add Bynum's "serious" knee injury to that.
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Post#7 » by Leonidas » Sun Jul 6, 2008 3:06 pm

I believe Alexsander is outro too. It's obvious from the day Ray Allan blew past him he wanted more money. I guess throwing the game for some headbands was not good enough. Then he says" whoever needs or wants me the most"... Translation'" whoever drops the most duckets in my headband acct".

LA Times has an article(nothing special... except the wanna bring YUUUU!!) to the summer league.
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I hope they do bring YUUUU!!!! I think it would be interesting to have Craw, Yuuu!!! and Coby in since Sasha wants Mo money, mo money, mo money and the IRA is out. YU!!! would be interchangable between 1,2 and the 3 spot.
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Post#8 » by DubaLakers » Sun Jul 6, 2008 3:21 pm

dub81 wrote:Honestly, I can't stand Sasha, he's got alot of people on the blog bamboozled. He's got a j, but I can't stand guys who flop, and he's a super flopper. I can't respect that from a man. He looks like he plays tough d. But he does not, he's soft.

Also during the interview in the finals, he said that the Celtics play to physical. wtf????????


I never thought of Sasha as a flopper, and I don't think Sasha is soft either. I think if he was we would all agree with you. Sasha is tough, he's not afraid of anybody. A lot of nights he has the toughest guard, he's a 6'7" knat. He gets under their skin, you've seen it. He's a closer in games because of it, Kobe moves to the 3, he takes the two cuz he can D up, is never afraid to shoot, and he can drain the three like a sharpshooter, as long as the opposing team doesn't have clovers on their uni's.

The flopping reminds me of one thing that does piss me off about our Laker team. One thing that does need to change other than obnoxious offseason core training with Pau, a dedication to D, and a more mentally strong team, is the whining after foul calls. Kobe's the worst of 'em, so much histrionics, arms in the air, screaming at the refs, just gets boorish as a fan. Play ball, let PJax, DFish, and the coaches deal with that. I don't know if you guys agree, but it bugs me.
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Post#9 » by RJM » Sun Jul 6, 2008 3:28 pm

Raise your hand if you think Duba needs his own personal Lakers blog.

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Post#10 » by hermes » Sun Jul 6, 2008 5:07 pm

we need to send him on a road trip during the season and have him follow the team and blog about it
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Post#11 » by DubaLakers » Sun Jul 6, 2008 7:50 pm

You guys are funny.
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Post#12 » by microfib4thewin » Sun Jul 6, 2008 8:47 pm

If Sasha is soft, he wouldn't be playing defense with his neck right at the level of the other guy's elbow. He flops, but it's a risk to play this close up because your neck is exposed, and Sasha has been the recipient on that end more than a couple of times.

I don't have a problem with Sasha getting MLE money with the way he played this season, guys like Diop and Kapono that does one thing well are being paid that much, and neither one plays on both ends of the floor like Sasha does, the problem is he only did well in one season, and it's hard to justify paying him that much and assume he can keep up that level of play no matter how young he is.
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Post#13 » by dub81 » Sun Jul 6, 2008 9:56 pm

microfib4thewin wrote:If Sasha is soft, he wouldn't be playing defense with his neck right at the level of the other guy's elbow. He flops, but it's a risk to play this close up because your neck is exposed, and Sasha has been the recipient on that end more than a couple of times.

I don't have a problem with Sasha getting MLE money with the way he played this season, guys like Diop and Kapono that does one thing well are being paid that much, and neither one plays on both ends of the floor like Sasha does, the problem is he only did well in one season, and it's hard to justify paying him that much and assume he can keep up that level of play no matter how young he is.


I believe Sasha is soft because of the way he flops, and wine's after every call like he did not do anything. Just man up and play D. 1 instance is when both Ray Allen and Sasha fell to the floor, Ray got up before Sasha, and Sasha clearly tripped him when he got up. And started complaining like a little girl when the ref called a foul on him. I thought that was very sissyish. Or when Carmelo tried to choke him during the game, he acted like he got shot. I don't want my kids playing ball like that. That's why we need somebody like a Posey/Artest on our team. A person that will get in you're face, and let you know that we are here to play, and I'm not backing down. We had that in Rick Fox when we was winning 3 in a row. He would play tough man up d on Peja, and you could tell that Peja was intimdated. I'm not a big fan of Euro players.
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Post#14 » by DubaLakers » Sun Jul 6, 2008 10:08 pm

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microfib4thewin wrote:If Sasha is soft, he wouldn't be playing defense with his neck right at the level of the other guy's elbow. He flops, but it's a risk to play this close up because your neck is exposed, and Sasha has been the recipient on that end more than a couple of times.

I don't have a problem with Sasha getting MLE money with the way he played this season, guys like Diop and Kapono that does one thing well are being paid that much, and neither one plays on both ends of the floor like Sasha does, the problem is he only did well in one season, and it's hard to justify paying him that much and assume he can keep up that level of play no matter how young he is.


I believe Sasha is soft because of the way he flops, and wine's after every call like he did not do anything. Just man up and play D. 1 instance is when both Ray Allen and Sasha fell to the floor, Ray got up before Sasha, and Sasha clearly tripped him when he got up. And started complaining like a little girl when the ref called a foul on him. I thought that was very sissyish. Or when Carmelo tried to choke him during the game, he acted like he got shot. I don't want my kids playing ball like that. That's why we need somebody like a Posey/Artest on our team. A person that will get in you're face, and let you know that we are here to play, and I'm not backing down. We had that in Rick Fox when we was winning 3 in a row. He would play tough man up d on Peja, and you could tell that Peja was intimdated. I'm not a big fan of Euro players.


Obviously you aren't a fan of Euro's, but I think you are picking on the wrong Euro. Try the one with melting snow in his locker, he was a huge reason why we looked so bad at times in that series.
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Post#15 » by LAKERLAW » Mon Jul 7, 2008 12:40 am

I was not a fan of Sasha but this season turned my opinion around somewhat. I am not a bandwagon gut to say the very least. The one thing I realized is I did not take Sasha's youth and inexperience (to American) into consideration. I agree with many here that he is a "flopper" i mean is it a bit of a spoiled brat out there complaining over everything, and I am not a fan of his defense. Yes he gets in players head, but bottom line, anyone can blow by him (Ray Allen), and is happens often. One thing to also remember is Shasha is from europe and overseas athletes are extremely dramatic. When you watch a soccer match some of these guys go down as if they will never walk again and once the ref make his call the are up and running in just moments. This is the world Sasha grew up in. Lets not forget he cried on the bench during his rookie year in a road game when Kobe yelled at him. Even in Kobes final press conference a reporter asked him about his feeling on Sasha coming back to the team and kobe responded by stating, "Shasha is a man, well...he isnt really a man...but he has to do whats best for him and hi family." Kobe said it jokingly, but there is a lot of truth to it.

Obviously, time will change this. The more he plays in the NBA the more he will adapt to the style and improve every year for some time to come.

The problem with the lineup as is, we are SF heavy.
Ariza
Radman
Odom (SF/PF)
Ariza
Walton

And we really only have one SG off the bench that can come in and make an impact. Lets not joke ourselves, Sasha is an impact player. Im not even a fan of necessarily a fan of his offense, he doesnt slash, he doesn't dive, he isnt a great passer, he isnt a good point guard, he makes poor decisions, but he shoots lights out, and although he makes many mistakes the mistakes he makes are stupid mistakes that can be fixed with just experience alone. Keep him on the court with Kobe and have Phil and his staff coach him a few more years and he could be something special.

Keep Sasha....and make sure he guards Kobe everyday in practice.
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Post#16 » by laduane1 » Mon Jul 7, 2008 12:46 am

I hope they come back. If they do not. I wish them both good luck. I would miss Ronnie the most. He is a solid big man with energy..
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Post#17 » by dub81 » Mon Jul 7, 2008 1:45 am

LAKERLAW wrote:I was not a fan of Sasha but this season turned my opinion around somewhat. I am not a bandwagon gut to say the very least. The one thing I realized is I did not take Sasha's youth and inexperience (to American) into consideration. I agree with many here that he is a "flopper" i mean is it a bit of a spoiled brat out there complaining over everything, and I am not a fan of his defense. Yes he gets in players head, but bottom line, anyone can blow by him (Ray Allen), and is happens often. One thing to also remember is Shasha is from europe and overseas athletes are extremely dramatic. When you watch a soccer match some of these guys go down as if they will never walk again and once the ref make his call the are up and running in just moments. This is the world Sasha grew up in. Lets not forget he cried on the bench during his rookie year in a road game when Kobe yelled at him. Even in Kobes final press conference a reporter asked him about his feeling on Sasha coming back to the team and kobe responded by stating, "Shasha is a man, well...he isnt really a man...but he has to do whats best for him and hi family." Kobe said it jokingly, but there is a lot of truth to it.

Obviously, time will change this. The more he plays in the NBA the more he will adapt to the style and improve every year for some time to come.

The problem with the lineup as is, we are SF heavy.
Ariza
Radman
Odom (SF/PF)
Ariza
Walton

And we really only have one SG off the bench that can come in and make an impact. Lets not joke ourselves, Sasha is an impact player. Im not even a fan of necessarily a fan of his offense, he doesnt slash, he doesn't dive, he isnt a great passer, he isnt a good point guard, he makes poor decisions, but he shoots lights out, and although he makes many mistakes the mistakes he makes are stupid mistakes that can be fixed with just experience alone. Keep him on the court with Kobe and have Phil and his staff coach him a few more years and he could be something special.

Keep Sasha....and make sure he guards Kobe everyday in practice.



Lake,

I agree with you somewhat, but the problem is that a flopper is always going to be a flopper. Look at Dirk, he's more softer than he was when he got into the league. I respect Sasha's shot, if he's open, he will make it. But I don't respect his game, and the way he plays it. Steve Kerr, John Paxson, they were straight up hard nose players who could shoot the hell out of the ball. I would respect Sasha more if he plays the game right. To me, he does not play the game the way it suppose to be played.

Keep him for a reasonable price, if he wants Kapono type of money, let him go. I say that because Kapona played 2 good years of ball. So we know that it was not no fluke. Sasha, I don't know.
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Post#18 » by Mamba Venom » Mon Jul 7, 2008 1:58 am

Players will learn not to flop next year. Being called out and suspended w/o pay should help fix the problem. Sasha fits this team well. He is a great 6th or 7th man. The problem is the Lakers have already paid for good 6th and 7th men in Radmon and Luke. I would rather have Sasha than either but what can you do besides find a trade partner?
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Post#19 » by dockingsched » Mon Jul 7, 2008 5:26 am

sasha isn't soft, he doesn't back down from anyone. when sasha was matched up against pierce in the finals, he was in his grill not giving him an inch of space. sure he flops, but soft? yeah right. guy is a cool blooded assasin. he's also the first one in the gym and the last one out.
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Post#20 » by daddyfivestar » Mon Jul 7, 2008 6:41 pm

knat.... good one.

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