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Hollinger Rips on NO for signing Posey to 4 year deal.

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Re: Hollinger Rips on NO for signing Posey to 4 year deal. 

Post#21 » by greenbeans » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:31 pm

grantlongforpresident wrote:Hollinger is wrong. Not that it matters but all four people on around the horn and both guys on PTI loved this deal for the Hornets.

The reality is we broke up the core of an NBA champion for 1 year of the MLE in 2012. I'm willing to give up some financial flexibility in the 2011 offseason if we have a shot to win in the next two years.

It's ok though, we'll replace him with some POS like Snyder, Azubukyasfdf, Miles, Barnes etc. Way to get worse boston.

no we didnt. the core is 3 hof'ers which Posey is not one of
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Re: Hollinger Rips on NO for signing Posey to 4 year deal. 

Post#22 » by bruno sundov » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:13 am

grantlongforpresident wrote:Hollinger is wrong. Not that it matters but all four people on around the horn and both guys on PTI loved this deal for the Hornets.

The reality is we broke up the core of an NBA champion for 1 year of the MLE in 2012. I'm willing to give up some financial flexibility in the 2011 offseason if we have a shot to win in the next two years.

It's ok though, we'll replace him with some POS like Snyder, Azubukyasfdf, Miles, Barnes etc. Way to get worse boston.



Since when are the PTI and Around the horn guys ever right?


We didn't break up the champioship core that is KG,Ray and Paul. Posey is more like the stem of the apple. We will see who we replace him with. DA did the right thing not resigning him. To much money for to long a preiod of time.
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Re: Hollinger Rips on NO for signing Posey to 4 year deal. 

Post#23 » by tombattor » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:13 pm

JHTruth wrote:Tough to let Posey go, but that contract from NO was simply absurd. 4 years for a 31-year old bench player. Disgusting. We were correct not to match this silly offer. Bartelstein raped NO..

Why is it disgusting? Because the Hornets are trying to win it all this year? Maybe 4 years was a little long, but they had to give him 4 years to come to New Orleans and championship is worth an extra year of James Posey at age 35.

You can't operate with only age in mind. Haven't you guys learned from the Celtics' transformation this year? Young players give you false hope without delivering. You need proven players to win. Not a prayer.
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Re: Hollinger Rips on NO for signing Posey to 4 year deal. 

Post#24 » by sully00 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:52 pm

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JHTruth wrote:Tough to let Posey go, but that contract from NO was simply absurd. 4 years for a 31-year old bench player. Disgusting. We were correct not to match this silly offer. Bartelstein raped NO..

Why is it disgusting? Because the Hornets are trying to win it all this year? Maybe 4 years was a little long, but they had to give him 4 years to come to New Orleans and championship is worth an extra year of James Posey at age 35.

You can't operate with only age in mind. Haven't you guys learned from the Celtics' transformation this year? Young players give you false hope without delivering. You need proven players to win. Not a prayer.


You do realize the sillyness of that statement. If that is true then why is New Orleans trying to win it all? There three best players are young guys, by your statement they only have false hope.

It isn't about young vs old it is about a balance of the two. The Spurs and Suns looked too old.

The problem with Posey's contract isn't that it is a year too long it may be 3 years too long. The track record of guys like Posey at this point in there career is not good. Frankly very few basketball players excell through 32-35.

Either way champioships are not decided by players 6-10 on your roster. While benches play a roll they just don't win or lose you championships.
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Re: Hollinger Rips on NO for signing Posey to 4 year deal. 

Post#25 » by tombattor » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:03 pm

sully00 wrote:You do realize the sillyness of that statement. If that is true then why is New Orleans trying to win it all? There three best players are young guys, by your statement they only have false hope.

It isn't about young vs old it is about a balance of the two. The Spurs and Suns looked too old.

The problem with Posey's contract isn't that it is a year too long it may be 3 years too long. The track record of guys like Posey at this point in there career is not good. Frankly very few basketball players excell through 32-35.

Either way champioships are not decided by players 6-10 on your roster. While benches play a roll they just don't win or lose you championships.

First of all, the word, "there" refers to a place. "Their" is the possessive one.

2nd of all, it's not a debate of young vs. old. It's about proven vs. unproven. Chris Paul, David West and Chandler are all proven players. Yes, they are pretty young, but they have shown results. They won a ton of games and were on the verge of getting to the finals. So I'd say, that's being proven. What JHTruth said was referring only to age. Which is why I said you can't just concentrate on a player's age, as an end all be all. There have been plenty of players who played well into their mid-30s and also plenty of players who are once young, but never really improved to become the great players people expected them to become.

Yes, you are correct in saying that you don't win championships with players 6-10. You need the top guys to put you in position to succeed before the little things can put you over. However, considering how close they were last year, I don't think they needed to make huge changes to the roster. I think it's likely that a small boost in their bench with someone like Posey can put them over. Maybe not, but it's certainly a positive move and the Hornets are in the win-now mode. Yes, Chris Paul is very young, but that doesn't mean they aren't in the win-now mode. It just means that they can be in the win-now mode for a long time.

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