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Post#1 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:39 pm

This time from the Vikes Pat Williams

Pat Williams wrote:“They had a nice year last year, but they don’t understand that Brett made those guys better than they were,” Williams said. “He has the game all figured out, and you’ve got to factor all that into the equation. Brett Favre would throw the ball when the receivers hadn’t even made their cut yet, and it would be there waiting for them. Those guys had it good.

“People think it’s the system, but it ain’t no damn system. Brett Favre just knows where his guys are going to be at all times, and I don’t think Aaron Rodgers has got that yet.”

OK, that’s enough Rodgers bashing for today. It’s time for me to take my medicine.


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Post#2 » by rilamann » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:49 pm

So when Favre threw a 10 yard completion to DD or Jennings and they turned that 10 yard throw into a 40 yard TD pass that was all Favre?

In 2005 when Favre threw damn near 30 ints and the Packers went 4-12 why didnt Favre make the weapons he had at that time so great? I mean if its all Favre right?


What Pat Williams and a few others DONT UNDERSTAND is that ''those guys'' made Favre look good.

That truth will come to light real soon.

Dont get me wrong im not taking anything away from Favre he had a solid season but lets get real here.

Thanks for the article DB this season is going to be a lot of fun,crow will be served hot and delicous on a weekly bases,I can't wait either.
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Post#3 » by emunney » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:58 pm

Apart from the spectacular Favre-only plays, it was good team play making everyone look good. Everyone has to do their job in order for anyone to be successful in football.
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Post#4 » by rilamann » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:24 pm

Exactly Emunney.

Once agian not taking anything away from Favre but it wasnt like Favre (last year) was the same Favre we saw in the 90's when he put up MVP caliber numbers.

In the 90's Favre did make average guys look better than average and he could carry an offense almost by himself.In the 90's Favre would on a regular baises make those throws that only he could make that would make you jump out of your seat and say WOW!!

I think last season Favre had that 90's favor returned to him,Favre was solid in his own right but the guys around him made him look good.

We all watched last season,Favre wasnt consistiently making spectacular throws like he did in the 90's.In 2007 Favre was making smart throws (Edit to add:the same smart throws Rodgers can make) and his play makers where turning those smart throws into big plays.

Agian im not taking anything away from Favre and I dont wanna sound like im eating sour grapes but its the truth.

I think there is too much Brett Favre ass kissing by the national media for them to realize that.
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Post#5 » by El Duderino » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:05 am

I don't think the Packers will need to post any Vikings comments in the locker room to be amped for a Monday Night game against their biggest rival.

As much as i'm curious to see how Aaron performs in real games, i'm also curious to see just how good the Vikes look and how Jackson does. They sure seem to have a pretty damn good team, but how Jackson plays this year will dictate greatly just how far their team goes.
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Post#6 » by trwi7 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:36 am

Maybe that's why we swept the Vikings last year. They knew nothing about our offensive scheme!

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Post#7 » by Balls2TheWalls » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:44 pm

I'd say that 34-0 beatdown we put on the Vikings last year had less to do with Favre and more to do with us being the better team.
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Post#8 » by Wade-A-Holic » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:36 pm

The joke is on Pat Williams because we just lost a hall of fame quarterback and still have a much better one than the Vikings do, not to mention their #1 receiver would be a #3 for the Packers.
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Post#9 » by smooth 'lil balla » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:13 pm

Agreed WAH. I don't get the media infatuation with the Vikings. They don't have good receivers and their quarterback has shown nothing. And they were bad last year.

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Post#10 » by aaprigs311 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:57 pm

The Vikings are a **** joke. They have so many holes, but it seems that Jared Allen has fixed them all. Not only will this mullet be playing DE, but he will also star as the starting QB, WR, FS, SS, TE, and OLB. I can't wait to piss pound them in front of the world in the opener.
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Post#11 » by Captain Erv » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:17 pm

Rest assured that Williams isn’t alone. All-Pro defensive end Jared Allen, acquired by the Vikings in an April trade with the Chiefs, has his own welcome-to-the-rivalry ritual in mind for Rodgers.

“Playing Green Bay on Monday night to start the season – that’s everything you want,” Allen said. “Hopefully, I can put my helmet square in the back of his spine. If I can do that and knock the ball loose, it’ll be a good day.”


Wow, what I wouldn't give for Rodgers to just square up and fire a fastball into that dirty inbred's sack.
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Post#12 » by Neusch23 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:49 pm

They can say what they want, it will just help to motivate us.

really, I wish we were not playing a division rival week one, on monday night. It will be a tough, tough win against a very good D.

I think both teams will have a hard time putting points on the board.
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Post#13 » by Mags FTW » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:13 am

Viking have lost their starting S for 8 weeks.
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Post#14 » by Wade-A-Holic » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:13 am

Neusch23 wrote:I think both teams will have a hard time putting points on the board.


I don't. Minnesota's secondary is terrible. Winfield is their only respectable cover guy and the Packers have 5 receivers that would be in the top 3 of almost any other receiving corp in the league. If somebody tells me that Darren Sharper is good too I want them banned from this site. Picking off hail mary attempts at the end of halves to boost your stats does not make you a good player.
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Post#15 » by Neusch23 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:41 pm

Wade-A-Holic wrote:
Neusch23 wrote:I think both teams will have a hard time putting points on the board.


I don't. Minnesota's secondary is terrible. Winfield is their only respectable cover guy and the Packers have 5 receivers that would be in the top 3 of almost any other receiving corp in the league. If somebody tells me that Darren Sharper is good too I want them banned from this site. Picking off hail mary attempts at the end of halves to boost your stats does not make you a good player.


I understand you point, but I don't have faith in Rodgers yet to play through pressure. I don't think he looked very good against Cincy's bad D. While he wasn't horrible, he wasn't great.

While Minny might not have a great secondary, he still has to get the ball there while being pressured by a very good pass rush.

Not to mention that this isn't an ordinary game. I think that Rodgers will struggle, but that this game will be his worst of the season.

I hope I am wrong, but I think it will be a tough win.
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Post#16 » by Captain Erv » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:25 pm

Looks as if McKinnie will be suspended the first four games of the year for violating the league conduct policy. Boy, 'Queens fans are going to have all kinds of excuses if we beat them on opening night.
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Post#17 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:30 pm

Neusch23 wrote:I understand you point, but I don't have faith in Rodgers yet to play through pressure. I don't think he looked very good against Cincy's bad D. While he wasn't horrible, he wasn't great.

While Minny might not have a great secondary, he still has to get the ball there while being pressured by a very good pass rush.

Not to mention that this isn't an ordinary game. I think that Rodgers will struggle, but that this game will be his worst of the season.

I hope I am wrong, but I think it will be a tough win.


Maybe you answered this in the game thread, but what didn't you like about his performance? 9/15, two drops, one throw-away, one that Jones misplayed, one miss.

What more could he have done?
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Post#18 » by Neusch23 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:00 am

DB, I have to say, I was at the game, and when my buddy and I got in the car (he is a big Rodgers supporter) we were both surprised to hear people talking glowingly about his performance. We both walked away unimpressed.

We thought that he had little patience with the offense. We both commented that we didn't see him do much at the line of scrimmage. My buddy felt that he should have recognized the defense on the play where he nearly had the ball intercepted on the driver bobble (would have been drivers fault, however Rodgers did throw another on of his dodge ball throws, but it was right where it should have been).

Over threw a wide open player for what would have been a HUGE play...

We both felt he spent more time in the huddle than we are used to.

Left the game shaking his hand, wincing, and being looked at by the trainer 10 min later.

Overall we felt he was out there really working, where we are used to Brett looking like he was playing...if that makes any sense.

We didn't feel he played bad, but surely not as well as other commented on. Didn't keep stats durring the game, but being there, I got a much different feel than people who were watching on TV.

DB, let me ask you this, do you have, or know where you could get, Steve Young's game logs after he took over for Montana? I think he came in during the season...
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Post#19 » by xTitan » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:58 am

Neusch23 wrote:DB, I have to say, I was at the game, and when my buddy and I got in the car (he is a big Rodgers supporter) we were both surprised to hear people talking glowingly about his performance. We both walked away unimpressed.

We thought that he had little patience with the offense. We both commented that we didn't see him do much at the line of scrimmage. My buddy felt that he should have recognized the defense on the play where he nearly had the ball intercepted on the driver bobble (would have been drivers fault, however Rodgers did throw another on of his dodge ball throws, but it was right where it should have been).

Over threw a wide open player for what would have been a HUGE play...

We both felt he spent more time in the huddle than we are used to.

Left the game shaking his hand, wincing, and being looked at by the trainer 10 min later.

Overall we felt he was out there really working, where we are used to Brett looking like he was playing...if that makes any sense.

We didn't feel he played bad, but surely not as well as other commented on. Didn't keep stats durring the game, but being there, I got a much different feel than people who were watching on TV.

DB, let me ask you this, do you have, or know where you could get, Steve Young's game logs after he took over for Montana? I think he came in during the season...


:rofl2: '''Jones should have caught the long pass, very slow out of his break and he rounded off the pattern, Rodgers threw to the right spot....Driver, Jennings, and probably Nelson pull it in.

Rodgers shook his hand after the first series and came back and looked very good...Sitton got beat and it was the play where Rodgers got hit on the side of the knee...that is a ridiculous point.

Of course you got a different feel, I expect you will have a different feel all year.
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Post#20 » by mbucks22 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:08 am

Rodgers played as well as people wanted to see out of him, if not better. Is that going to be the excuse every time he does play well? "well, it was a bad D", big f'ing deal. The guy now has to try and fill the shoes of one of the greatest to ever play the game and even if he puts up great numbers season after season, maybe even wins an MVP or two, he'll probably still never live up to what Favre was (at least in some people's eyes), when he plays very well like he did Monday, he deserves all of the praise in the world. Seems some people are having a problem admitting it.

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