ronnymac2 wrote:You know, with the whole mainstream hip-hop thing (and also with club raps and whatnot)....people here are saying that's crappy hip-hop and that's not hip-hop......I completely agree with that second option. lol That's not hip-hop at all, and thus shouldn't be treated that way. It should be treated as something independant (related to hip-hop, but a clear divergence from it). Now, some of those rappers do SOMETIMES delve into real hip-hop and concious hip-hop and whatnot. Some even begin like that (example...50 cent....50 cent was really good and def good hip-hop when he wasn't really famous....now, everything is the same with him because no matter what, he's gonna make money anyway.....nothing wrong with that, I'm sure we'd all do the same if we could talk about how much money we have in order to make more money lol...but its not really hip-hop anymore per se. It's all commercialized, designed to appeal to the common fan in order to make money.).
I don't know if you should be critical of that "non hip-hop" though. I mean, like you say, it's not even really hip-hop anymore. Besides, when your dancing at a club or whatever, do you really want to hear concious hip-hop that produces an affect, or do you want to hear something with a hot beat that says...whatever. lol Basically, there's a time and a place for "true hip-hop" and "that stuff that aint really hip-hop anymore." Just differeniate them, and you'll be able to appreciate both (or at least you won't get as mad at crap hip-hop anymore).
I actually like lil wayne for his wordplay and lyricism. He's coool and funny and whatnot. if I want to hear something that really represents hip-hop, I'll listen to lupe or kanye or whomever. If i want to just hear some clever lyrics, lil wayne is the choice.
And i sure hope lil wayne is right about beasley, but i mean, his analysis of him doesn't really say much to me. lol I do see wayne's point of beasley being confident; as long as he's not too confident, that's absolutely fine with me. Just the right amount of arrogance is good for a bball player.
ARE YOU JOKING?
Man, i understand that's your opinion but come on.
"i am so high i could eat a star" ? o rly??
" S**t I Gotta Eat... Yeah, Even Though I Ate
It Ain't My Birthday But I Got My Name On the Cake" Wow, very clever, i mean look at this lyricism
"Tougher than Nigerian hair" ....Lies .....
"Tell the coppers hahahaha you can't catch 'em, you can't stop 'em
I go by them goon rules if you can't beat 'em then you pop 'em
You can't man 'em then you mop 'em,
You can't stand 'em then you drop 'em," Yeah, that's fire.
Sorry but i got to say it, Cam>Lil wayne. The reason why i say cam is because so many people really think cam is a bad rapper(LOLLOLLOLOOLO). People say Lil wayne has flow and lyrics(hell no). Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdfMQfGtYKc - That's Lil wayne's let the beat build, from the carter 3.
This is cam's version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdPet22dOS8 (i am not saying cam had amazing lyrics but he did what he could to this type of beat. People, you have to understand that sometimes cam writes to the beat.)
So, who's version you guys like more? Cam or Wayne?