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Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST

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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#181 » by MrLynch07 » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:04 pm

dedned wrote:
MrLynch07 wrote:I disagree the Giants game hurt more, but i definetly agree with the way our team is playing, that we should take the division, just sucks were a game behind Kyle Orton lead Bears.

Orton got hurt. He left the game with a leg injury. So now its a Grossman lead bears.


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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#182 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:10 pm

Tough loss. Lot of second guessing to do.

I'm not gonna dwell on this one, though. The Titans are a good team and they show what happens when you don't beat yourself.
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Post#183 » by xTitan » Mon Nov 3, 2008 12:31 am

I was disappointed in Jennings effort today, he is one of my favs but seemed very disinterested.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#184 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Nov 3, 2008 4:00 am

I'll go out on a limb and make something up that the team was distracted by the KGB cutting yesterday.......no one on that sideline seemed in a particularly good mood today.

I like Ted Thompson, but keeping KGB (simply to avoid the disruption in the locker room) and making that deal for Tony Gonzalez might have helped today IMO.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#185 » by xTitan » Mon Nov 3, 2008 4:03 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I'll go out on a limb and make something up that the team was distracted by the KGB cutting yesterday.......no one on that sideline seemed in a particularly good mood today.

I like Ted Thompson, but keeping KGB (simply to avoid the disruption in the locker room) and making that deal for Tony Gonzalez might have helped today IMO.


pure lunacy, KGB sucked and everyone knew it and the Packers were 1 of 2 teams that made the best offer for Gonzales but KC obviously didn't want to trade him, unless you are one of those nut jobs who would give up a first because you don't value draft picks.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#186 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Nov 3, 2008 4:22 am

I don't disagree that KGB sucked this year and had completely lost his burst. But you don't cut a 9-year vet, devoted to your team who also was your franchise's all time leading sack guy on November 1st. You wait until after the season to make that type of move. You can cut Shawn Bodiford on November 1st but not a KGB. I'd guess plenty of vets did a double take after that happened yesterday.

In regards to Gonzalez, read the McGinn column the week of the trade deadline. The Packers needed to show up with a second round pick and the deal was done. TT was just angry that KC upped the price from a 3rd to a 2nd at the last minute so he dropped out. I would have given up a 2nd. We gave up a 2nd for Keith Jackson and that guy was a critical veteran for the 1995 and 1996 seasons.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#187 » by El Duderino » Mon Nov 3, 2008 5:21 am

We outplayed the Titans and there are multiple things that contributed to the loss, but as in almost any NFL game on the road vs a good team, you rarely ever win if you lose the turnover battle.

The bad interception took at least 3 points off the board for the Packers and the fumble by Rodgers gave the Titans 3 points. Mix in the we never got any interceptions even though there were multiple chances at them, it played a huge factor in the loss. I think on average, NFL teams lose around 80 percent of the time when they lose the turnover battle by two or more.

Rodgers made some nice throws for big gains today and generally has done a great job this year avoiding turnovers, but those two back to back ones today were huge in the loss.

As for the defense, they played a solid game until the last couple drives, keep in mind though the Titans only average 310 ypg on the season, which ranks 20th in the NFL. The front four was pretty good against the run, but got little to to no pressure on Collins all game, only on blitzes did the defense get any pressure.

Frustrating loss because we seemed so close on a few plays from getting in the end zone, only to get tackled deep in the red zone and then the offense would stall, leading to only three points or nothing. To roll up 390 yards against a top defense and be inside their 40 yard line so many times, but only score 16 points was hard to stomach. If the Packers miss the playoffs by a game, this no doubt will one they look back on as a blown opportunity.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#188 » by El Duderino » Mon Nov 3, 2008 5:43 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I'll go out on a limb and make something up that the team was distracted by the KGB cutting yesterday.......no one on that sideline seemed in a particularly good mood today.

I like Ted Thompson, but keeping KGB (simply to avoid the disruption in the locker room) and making that deal for Tony Gonzalez might have helped today IMO.


I don't agree on KGB. He's always been a one trick pony, a guy who can create a lot of pressure on quarterbacks. That in itself is a very valuable skill in the NFL given how much of a passing league it's become, so i had no problem paying six million for KGB to be a pass rusher and nothing else. Last season, his ability to get sacks or hurry the QB played a role in the 13-3 record given Sanders likes to only rush four. This year though, KGB has obviously been hampered by his knee issues/age and he lost a step, that step he needs to beat left tackles off the edge. You can't waste a roster spot on a DE that can't play run downs, no longer can get to the quarterback, and who doesn't play special teams.

As for Gonzalez, i'd have considered giving up a second rounder, but only if he's also a good run blocker, that i don't know though. We talk a lot about Clifton/Tauscher not being ideally suited for the ZBS and hurting the run blocking, but one thing that often gets glossed over is that none of our tight ends are much of run blockers. On top of that, Rodgers for whatever reason isn't throwing as much to Lee this year. I don't get coaches film so it's hard to know if Lee just isn't getting open as much, if plays where the TE is the first/second option aren't being called as much, or if Rodgers just looks to his WR's more than Brett did. Either way, between the below average run blocking and meager receiving numbers, overall production from the TE position hasn't been much.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#189 » by Wade-A-Holic » Mon Nov 3, 2008 5:59 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I don't disagree that KGB sucked this year and had completely lost his burst. But you don't cut a 9-year vet, devoted to your team who also was your franchise's all time leading sack guy on November 1st. You wait until after the season to make that type of move. You can cut Shawn Bodiford on November 1st but not a KGB. I'd guess plenty of vets did a double take after that happened yesterday.


I appreciate the sentiment that there is a "respect" factor here, considering what a good guy KGB is and what he's done for this franchise, but he was a situational player at best, the highest paid player on this team, and he wasn't delivering in the situations he was getting paid a king's ransom to deliver in. It's really that simple. The other vets on this team won't have to worry about their jobs if they're delivering.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#190 » by Flames24Rulz » Mon Nov 3, 2008 7:28 am

Frustrating loss, but I'm almost already over it. I hate moral victories too, but there were a lot of good things to take away from this game.

Our rush offense is getting better each and every week. This is the time of year last year when our running game took off and I think we might be seeing that again. The turnovers by Rodgers hurt, but he did bounce back and made some good throws to put us in good position. This was probably McCarthy's worst coached game of the year and unfortunately for us, it was against the best team we've played all year. Some of the calls were very odd. Hopefully he wakes up and calls a better game next week.

I know they ran for like 160 yards or something like that, but besides that drive when Fat Ass had the 65 yard run and the OT drive, our defense did a very good job on stopping the run. Mike Montgomery is looking like quite the fill-in for Cullen Jenkins. Looking like a solid late-round scoop for Thompson.

We still hold everything in front of us. We're 4-4 and we're tied with Minnesota, but I really think we could be 6-2 or maybe even possibly 7-1 right now. We do have a pretty good team and on paper, there's no question we have the best team in the division. It's always tough to win at the Metrodump, but I don't think there's any question that we have a better team than them. And as long as we win the next two games, we'll be back in first, and with a good chance of being in first place by ourselves. So for all intensive purposes, the playoffs begin next week and I'm ready for Minnesota. I know this was a tough loss, but we just need to shake this one off and get ready for the Queens.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#191 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Nov 3, 2008 2:29 pm

I'm surprised that nobody has brought up the poppinga penalty that gave the Titans 3 points. That was huge. The Packers made atleast 5 mistakes and missed another 5 opportunities, if anything of those turnout differently, we would have won.
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Re: Week 9 - Packers @ Titans - 11/2 - 12 PM CST 

Post#192 » by xTitan » Mon Nov 3, 2008 5:15 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I'm surprised that nobody has brought up the poppinga penalty that gave the Titans 3 points. That was huge. The Packers made atleast 5 mistakes and missed another 5 opportunities, if anything of those turnout differently, we would have won.


To me, that stupid play was the turning point of the game early on, just the pure stupidity of that play is unexplainable. The difference in the game was easy, TN got 2 TO's and the Packers dropped at least 3 interceptions. Two other points of note, Bigby was bad, chalk it up to inactivity if you like but he has hands of stone, anyone else wonder what #37 does with the ball Bigby dropped? Bigby also did a bad job on run support, took bad angles several times on Chris Johnson. I realize there is a whole other Nick Barnett thread but this defense is designed to funnel stuff to the MLB and Barnett is killing this team.

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