[BurningHeart]

has always tried hiding the deficiencies of the team and his players.

Isn't that....uh....the point of coaching?

[rsavaj]

has always tried hiding the deficiencies of the team and his players.

Isn't that....uh....the point of coaching?

I'd think so, as opposed to a system that maximizes the majority or your roster's deficiencies...a la Porter.

[nashill]

i cant blame people defending dantoni. he is a great coach offensively but if he was just willing to mix it up and tried different things a bit, suns could have been a champion.

remember game 5 2006 vs the spurs? he had to use 6 players on that game and the team just got tired at the 4th quarter. if he was only willing to give the other players a chance during the season, he could have use them that time...now dont tell me that who would have expected that diaw and amare will be suspended? a great coach should always be ready and should have expected all the worst thing. hell, the spurs even plays bonner during the regular season, why? you'l never know they might need him in the playoffs.

2008, hill forced to play not 100 percent during the regular season, what happened during the playoffs? damn, he was always a key beating the spurs last season.

[rsavaj]

i cant blame people defending dantoni. he is a great coach offensively but if he was just willing to mix it up and tried different things a bit, suns could have been a champion.

remember game 5 2006 vs the spurs? he had to use 6 players on that game and the team just got tired at the 4th quarter. if he was only willing to give the other players a chance during the season, he could have use them that time...now dont tell me that who would have expected that diaw and amare will be suspended? a great coach should always be ready and should have expected all the worst thing. hell, the spurs even plays bonner during the regular season, why? you'l never know they might need him in the playoffs.

2008, hill forced to play not 100 percent during the regular season, what happened during the playoffs? damn, he was always a key beating the spurs last season.

Those were obvious flaws that D'Antoni had, but I feel that the pros outweighed the cons.

[nashill]

no, its the other way around. the obvious flaws will always outweighs your greatness.. sorry for my english

[b-ball forever]

I always find it hilarious how some peeps say that any coach coulda been as successful with the roster D'Antoni had as him, that's BS.

Nash wasn't near the player he was in Dallas as he was under D'Antoni in PHX, his defensive deficiencies can't be overlooked either, and same goes for Amare. Marion is a shadow of the player he was under DA in Miami right now. Diaw was never able to perform in Atlanta's dumbass system. Tim Thomas was never as good as he was with us on any other team, Raja neither.
And just look at how much the Knicks have improved over last season despite not making any offseason acquisitions, and now losing their 2 best players for salary purposes.

I'm sure DA's pretty much the only coach that woulda led us to the WCF in 2006 with all those injuries, and also the only coach that woulda been capable of so drastically turning our record around in during the 2004-2005 season, leading us to the WCF despite only having a bunch crap defenders except for Marion (Raja, Kurt Thomas, Diaw were only added on the following year. And NO, Joe Johnson IS NOT a good defender).

[BurningHeart]

i cant blame people defending dantoni. he is a great coach offensively but if he was just willing to mix it up and tried different things a bit, suns could have been a champion.

remember game 5 2006 vs the spurs? he had to use 6 players on that game and the team just got tired at the 4th quarter. if he was only willing to give the other players a chance during the season, he could have use them that time...now dont tell me that who would have expected that diaw and amare will be suspended? a great coach should always be ready and should have expected all the worst thing. hell, the spurs even plays bonner during the regular season, why? you'l never know they might need him in the playoffs.

2008, hill forced to play not 100 percent during the regular season, what happened during the playoffs? damn, he was always a key beating the spurs last season.

D'Antoni's system relies on a tighter rotation because his system is all about flow. Players on the end of the bench will never fully be in the flow because by placing them into the game, you'll be killing the flow being built by better, more prominent players on the team.

[nba_addict]

has always tried hiding the deficiencies of the team and his players.

Isn't that....uh....the point of coaching?

I'd think so, as opposed to a system that maximizes the majority or your roster's deficiencies...a la Porter.

which is exactly the point. in season games you can hide player and team weaknesses as much as possible but in a series where X and O's matters you will be fried with your own cooking oil.

Think of the game today. Last 2 minutes your opponent is up by 2 or 3. What mentality do you prefer? You shoot 2 and we will come back with 3 or we get one complete stop at a time then score smartly in 24 seconds.

Imho Nash should try playing smarter in slower phase. If not he is much like a bone headed guy like D'Antoni. I would rather prefer seeing Stoudamire averaging 18-11-2-3 than 30-8-3-1 if thats what it takes for the team to play well on both ends of the court. This team should learn how to play stops and value each possession as if its their last. The team so far is as efficient as the team last year in terms of FG% no matter how ugly it looks like at times. The difference lies on number of attempts the team had and field goal attempt differentials. Put emphasis on each "stops" and minimizing "turnovers". This is something that needs to be addressed NOW rather than keep hiding it by mere running faster and shooting better.

Some guys mentioned the problem about spacing. Yes, thats true because we are comparing the D'Antoni's spacing against halfcourt oriented offense. In D'Antoni system the Team either shoots a three or bring that ball inside. Never had D'Antoni maximised the mid-range game which is also a must. I want to see the Suns this year to lear how to play efficient mid-range game because Spurs is too good in covering the three point line.

Comparing D'Antoni and Porter at this point is a no-brainer. D'Antoni is better but Id say Porter has better understanding on whats needed to end. Whether Porter can translate that into reality is something we need to patiently wait at least after 30 games. D'Antoni's vision of winning championship is short sighted imho. Try asking him why he is only playing 6-7 on tight games and you will have your answer.

some edits to expound my thoughts.

[BurningHeart]

D'Antoni's teams GOT stops. We just didn't complete them. We gave up offensive rebounds like Paris Hilton gives up her cooch.

D'Antoni can only do so much when it comes to players getting defensive rebounds.

[nba_addict]

D'Antoni's teams GOT stops. We just didn't complete them. We gave up offensive rebounds like Paris Hilton gives up her cooch.

D'Antoni can only do so much when it comes to players getting defensive rebounds.

Anyone here knows how I can play basketball with Paris Hilton?

Going back, D'Antoni's team is not built to be one and more worst the team didnt have the discipline to be one.