Kings vs. Jazz

[KingInExile]

Ahhh you sound sore KIE, and it's probably because JT is on your fantasy team....boo hoo. We're in the Blake Griffin sweepstakes now baby!

Not sore at all. I knew the risk of keeping JT and accept that risk. I have just lost the last bits of respect that I had for Theus. I think it is clear that the Theus as NBA coach experiment has failed.

[SacTown Kings]

Wow Theus keeps puting his faith in Douby and Douby keeps failing (the guy can't possibly have any more confidence left). I wonder how many more times this is going to happen, I mean surely either Theus figures it out or Douby finally makes a shot.

Bobby was playing shooting bad but we were doing fine. We caught up and were staying right with Utah. Then Theus decides to all of a sudden put in a guy who hasn't played all game and has failed every single time he has been in those situations. Wow, just wow. And people are asking who Theus should of played instaed of Douby. How about just leave it the way it was since we were doing fine, or how about anybody except for the person that has repeatedly missed shots in those situations.

This game shows you the difference between a good coach and a not good coach.

Sloan with scrubs >>>>> Theus with Kings

[KF10]

Wow.

This was the WORST coached game I have EVER seen. Not even MUSSELMAN was this bad.

I really wonder if Reggie already sees the writing on the wall.

Whoa, not so fast. Mussleman is pretty much horrible since day 1..lol..But then again, Reggie's rotations can make you wonder.

Actually, when we were above .500 with Mussleman, our team was playing pretty good (or at least, better than we have been since Rick left)...but when we started losing, the entire team stopped listening to him and then the downfall began.

Yeah, true. But we were only .500 for a short amount of time iirc. Mussleman had ALOT of failures....failures...very bad failures...lol..

[RIPskaterdude]

So we won't play again until Denver on the 6th...PLENTY of time for an assistant coach to take over and still have a few practices in between...

[deNIEd]

Yes, and the Lakers have had a sub-par, half injured Bynum all season, the Hornets have lost Peja off and on, and Utah has been without Deron, Boozer and AK for several games....and they keep winning...because, obviously, they are better teams and have better players and a better coach than us. But we've been making the injury bug excuse for how many years now? What does everyone say about last year? "If only we had Martin/Bibby/etc, we could have been MUCH better!" Well...say that about ANY team in the league! If only they had "enter injured player name here", they would have been MUCH better! Injures happen, and it shouldn't be a reason to NOT fire a coach who's team is not producing.

Our team just isn't that great. Our team is Kevin Martin and that's it. There is absolutely no reason to get all mad and pissed off for not winning now, we need TALENT!

Take half the team's in the league, take their best 1-2 players off, and their team is still more talented than our team currently.

[pillwenney]

Wow Theus keeps puting his faith in Douby and Douby keeps failing (the guy can't possibly have any more confidence left). I wonder how many more times this is going to happen, I mean surely either Theus figures it out or Douby finally makes a shot.

Bobby was playing shooting bad but we were doing fine. We caught up and were staying right with Utah. Then Theus decides to all of a sudden put in a guy who hasn't played all game and has failed every single time he has been in those situations. Wow, just wow. And people are asking who Theus should of played instaed of Douby. How about just leave it the way it was since we were doing fine, or how about anybody except for the person that has repeatedly missed shots in those situations.

This game shows you the difference between a good coach and a not good coach.

Sloan with scrubs >>>>> Theus with Kings

Thing is, we didn't really lose because of Douby. The only thing that Douby did wrong when he was in the game was miss 2 shots--which wasn't pretty, but it's not like Bobby was going to make them, in all likelihood. And after Korver had been killing us all game, Douby did do a better job on him defensively.

We lost the game because Deron decided in the final minutes that he wanted to start playing like Deron Williams and we couldn't stop them.

We also lost because of injuries. Now I agree with the general point that going to the "we need to get healthy" well too much is weak and we probably do it too much, but I have a specific reason here. Right now (and this has been the case for weeks now) we have trouble with close games because I don't think there have been any close games recently where we've had 5 guys that were playing well all game on the floor (or any blowouts for that matter, but those are irrelevant). And it goes back to why, while the decision to put in Douby probably wasn't smart, it wasn't as dumb as people are making it out to be. With Cisco unable to keep playing, and Salmons out, we simply didn't have 5 good players on the court. B-Jax played well for a stretch in the 3rd, but was otherwise just missing jumpers all game long, but he and Douby were really our only options (I think Korver probably would have really torched Brown). And Utah played to that defensively. Beno was having a nice game scoring-wise (albeit another TO-happy game), Kevin was a little below average for his efforts, but still quite good, and Brad and Spencer had both been playing well. Cisco would have been ideal if we had been able to play him, and I would even take that a step further. If we had been able to play Cisco, I think we would have won that game. He was just a much better option for us on both ends of the floor, even in his rusty state. I mean that makes a huge difference, when the role of that player is basically to defend and catch-and-shoot.

Now I'm not saying that we'll be a significantly better team when we get healthy. I think we'll still suck. But in close games, it will make a huge, huge difference to be able to trot out 5 healthy, capable players.

On another note, B-Jax and Udrih is a poorly matched backcourt. Both are more effective driving to the basket, and thus both are more effective with the ball in their hands.

Lastly, I'll say this much in Reggie's defense. From my experience at the game last week, and just observing what I have while watching the game on TV, I will say that the team's spirits appear to be high and the guys genuinely seem to like each other. And I think they want to come together as a team to succeed. So that's something--at least it definitely doesn't appear as though there are any locker room problems at all.

[RIPskaterdude]

my guess, 97-98

Martin had 22 points for Sacramento, which lost its seventh straight and 10th in 11. The Kings have dropped seven consecutive games at Arco Arena for the first time since the 1993-94 season and are one loss away from tying the franchise record.

[cdt3]

There is no clutch guy on the Kings. That is our most serious weakness. Mike Bibby was a guy who would put the ball in his hand and find a way to win. BJax has done in it in 1 game and Beno in one game. The rest of the year it has been close in every game but we never take control in the last few minutes like Williams did tonight and every other team has done to us. We need someone who can step on throats night in and out. That needs to be the focus of our trade or draft a clutch point.

[SacKingZZZ]

Our team just isn't that great. Our team is Kevin Martin and that's it. There is absolutely no reason to get all mad and pissed off for not winning now, we need TALENT!

Take half the team's in the league, take their best 1-2 players off, and their team is still more talented than our team currently.

There is this guy... I think his name is Hawes, he might disagree with you.

[SacKingZZZ]

Wow Theus keeps puting his faith in Douby and Douby keeps failing (the guy can't possibly have any more confidence left). I wonder how many more times this is going to happen, I mean surely either Theus figures it out or Douby finally makes a shot.

Bobby was playing shooting bad but we were doing fine. We caught up and were staying right with Utah. Then Theus decides to all of a sudden put in a guy who hasn't played all game and has failed every single time he has been in those situations. Wow, just wow. And people are asking who Theus should of played instaed of Douby. How about just leave it the way it was since we were doing fine, or how about anybody except for the person that has repeatedly missed shots in those situations.

This game shows you the difference between a good coach and a not good coach.

Sloan with scrubs >>>>> Theus with Kings

Team with system >>>>> Team with symptoms

[SacKingZZZ]

Wow Theus keeps puting his faith in Douby and Douby keeps failing (the guy can't possibly have any more confidence left). I wonder how many more times this is going to happen, I mean surely either Theus figures it out or Douby finally makes a shot.

Bobby was playing shooting bad but we were doing fine. We caught up and were staying right with Utah. Then Theus decides to all of a sudden put in a guy who hasn't played all game and has failed every single time he has been in those situations. Wow, just wow. And people are asking who Theus should of played instaed of Douby. How about just leave it the way it was since we were doing fine, or how about anybody except for the person that has repeatedly missed shots in those situations.

This game shows you the difference between a good coach and a not good coach.

Sloan with scrubs >>>>> Theus with Kings

Thing is, we didn't really lose because of Douby. The only thing that Douby did wrong when he was in the game was miss 2 shots--which wasn't pretty, but it's not like Bobby was going to make them, in all likelihood. And after Korver had been killing us all game, Douby did do a better job on him defensively.

We lost the game because Deron decided in the final minutes that he wanted to start playing like Deron Williams and we couldn't stop them.

We also lost because of injuries. Now I agree with the general point that going to the "we need to get healthy" well too much is weak and we probably do it too much, but I have a specific reason here. Right now (and this has been the case for weeks now) we have trouble with close games because I don't think there have been any close games recently where we've had 5 guys that were playing well all game on the floor (or any blowouts for that matter, but those are irrelevant). And it goes back to why, while the decision to put in Douby probably wasn't smart, it wasn't as dumb as people are making it out to be. With Cisco unable to keep playing, and Salmons out, we simply didn't have 5 good players on the court. B-Jax played well for a stretch in the 3rd, but was otherwise just missing jumpers all game long, but he and Douby were really our only options (I think Korver probably would have really torched Brown). And Utah played to that defensively. Beno was having a nice game scoring-wise (albeit another TO-happy game), Kevin was a little below average for his efforts, but still quite good, and Brad and Spencer had both been playing well. Cisco would have been ideal if we had been able to play him, and I would even take that a step further. If we had been able to play Cisco, I think we would have won that game. He was just a much better option for us on both ends of the floor, even in his rusty state. I mean that makes a huge difference, when the role of that player is basically to defend and catch-and-shoot.

Now I'm not saying that we'll be a significantly better team when we get healthy. I think we'll still suck. But in close games, it will make a huge, huge difference to be able to trot out 5 healthy, capable players.

On another note, B-Jax and Udrih is a poorly matched backcourt. Both are more effective driving to the basket, and thus both are more effective with the ball in their hands.

Lastly, I'll say this much in Reggie's defense. From my experience at the game last week, and just observing what I have while watching the game on TV, I will say that the team's spirits appear to be high and the guys genuinely seem to like each other. And I think they want to come together as a team to succeed. So that's something--at least it definitely doesn't appear as though there are any locker room problems at all.

No, they all seem to be really cool, level headed human beings. But! And there is a big ol' BUT! Depending on what starts to happen to the distribution of minutes that could all change in a flash. Not likely from the rookies but it'll come from somewhere.

[RIPskaterdude]

hahah, Theus is desperately looking for any excuse to cover up why Douby was in the game. First he blames it on that fact that Garcia/Martin were at 30 minutes, which was their playing limit for the night. Then he says that Douby was in because they needed extra defense on certain players (KK). HEY THEUS! It's the JOB of the coach to know these things BEFORE hand. IF 30 mins was the playing time MAX for Garcia/Martin, then MAYBE you should have planned it BEFORE hand, or hell, even BEFORE the 4th quarter and thought to yourself "hey, both of them are at 22 minutes right now, and I need to stop them at 30...so I probably should control their minutes enough, but still have enough to allow both of them to play at the end of the game".... unless he TRUELY thought that without those players in IMMEDIATELY, there was no way we would get back into the game. It's the job of a good coach to determine these kind of things BEFORE the game. He could have played JT or Greene an extra 3-4 minutes in the 1st half, therefore allowing Garcia to play at the end of the game.

Great coaching!

[RIPskaterdude]

Lastly, I'll say this much in Reggie's defense. From my experience at the game last week, and just observing what I have while watching the game on TV, I will say that the team's spirits appear to be high and the guys genuinely seem to like each other. And I think they want to come together as a team to succeed. So that's something--at least it definitely doesn't appear as though there are any locker room problems at all.

I can name several very bad teams that had players who "genuinely" seemed to like each other...as well as many good teams who have everyday locker room problems. But sometimes, you just need a new voice and a new system in place for things to change.

[deNIEd]

You guys do realize that rebuilding isn't really fun right.

I feel that half the boards expect rebuilding to mean winning games/entertaining basketball/quick process.

It'll take a few years, we'll be losing the vast majority of the games, but it's necessary and needed.

[RIPskaterdude]

I'm just going to post a blog from VF21 to answer deNIED "rebuilding isn't really fun" comment.

No, I'm not serious. Rebuilding isn't painless. It's painful to watch at times and it's excruciating at others. But it's a necessary part in the life of any franchise.

The problem with our Kings and the whole rebuilding scheme is two-fold:

1. We just didn't start soon enough so we're behind and trying to catch up. That in and of itself is something we've already gotten past; there's no use crying over spilt milk.

2. Our head coach has no idea what "REBUILDING" means and is apparently using a dictionary similar to Funk & Wagnall's Standard Desk Dictionary, which doesn't even give a separate definition for "rebuilding"...

We have a chance this year to groom our young players for the future; this is the perfect time to let them play and learn from their mistakes. There's another requirement for that to be successful, however. They desperately need a teacher - a coach who will put them in a position to learn, not to punish them or put them in situations where they're simply doomed to fail.

This has to be much harder on our young players than it is on the loyal fan base. They don't want to fail; they don't want to lose by 20+ points. They don't want to come into each game not knowing what's really expected of them or how they'll be utilized. They want to compete; they want to learn from their mistakes; they want to get better - for themselves, for their teammates and for us, the fans who will fill the seats and generate the Arco Thunder if we have even the slightest reason to do so....

continued at..
http://www.kingsfans.com/node/90

[RIPskaterdude]

put them in situations where they're simply doomed to fail.

And that blog was written BEFORE last night!