Official Trade Thread (all trade ideas here. No exceptions)

[Verbal]

think the cavs would do a Odom-Lebron swap?

it actually works, ID 4869607

Only if they give up 2 unconditional first rounders as well.

[AceFresh]

marion to Cleveland..
gulp

[hermes]

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The Lakers are rumored to be willing to trade guard Sasha Vujacic, but that's news to him.

Vujacic, who signed a three-year deal worth roughly $15 million this summer, has repeatedly said that he wants to retire as a member of the Lakers.

great news

[Baddy Chuck]

Posted this on the trade board but really didn't get much response from Lakers fans. Just wondering what you guys thought. I tried rounding your roster our with vets.

Milwaukee trades: Michael Redd, Richard Jefferson, Charlie Bell, Tyrone Lue
Milwaukee receives: Andre Iguodala, Lamar Odom, Sasha Vujacic, Vladimir Radmanovic

Why? Milwaukee starts rebuilding for the future with a 24 year old SG/SF and an expiring SF/PF. They also receive two offensive players for off the bench who are good shooters. The third point guard wouldn't be needed as Odom and Iguodala can both bring up the ball at times.

Ridnour/Sessions
Iguodala/Vujacic
Odom/Radmanovic/Alexander
LRMAM/Villanueva/Allen
Bogut/Gadzuric/Elson


LA trades: Lamar Odom, Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, Vladimir Radmanovic
LA receives: Richard Jefferson, Reggie Evans, Charlie Bell, Willie Green, Tyrone Lue

Why? They round out their starting lineup with Jefferson, giving them the best starting lineup in the NBA IMO. They also recieve four vets to round out their roster for during the playoffs. Bell would be an ideal PG for the triangle offense and Evans could be a Turiaf type player for them. Lue could be a needed third PG and Green a spark off the bench.

Fisher/Bell/Lue
Bryant/Green
Jefferson/Ariza/Walton
Gasol/Evans
Bynum/Mihm


Philly trades: Andre Iguodala, Willie Green, Reggie Evans
Philly receives: Michael Redd, Jordan Farmar

Why? The Iggy/Brand phase doesn't seem to be working. They get a legit two guard to fill out their lineup and a good young PG that can learn from Miller and become their PG of the future.

Miller/Farmar/Ivey
Redd/Williams
Young/Rush/Marshall
Brand/Speights/Smith
Dalembert/Ratliff

[Verbal]

marion to Cleveland..
gulp

New York writers reported it.

[Pb]

I would do a trade with the Knicks including:

Odon and Walton(or Radmanovic) for Lee, Q-Rich and Curry.

[lakeshow248]

Odom, Vlad, Luke and C Mihm to NYK for Marbury, Lee and T Thomas.... I heard last night the rumor of the day was David Lee and E Curry to CHarl for Bell and Diaw. So I thought I could one up the deal on the Lakers side and trade them Odom.

Works for Knicks because they get rid of Marbury and acquire a player like Odom, from NY, who would resign their and would fit Dantoni's system. As well they get a very good 3 pt shooter in Vlad in the mold of their offense.

Knicks would then have: Duhon, Wilson C, Odom, Harrington and Q Rich ... bench of Vlad, Mihm, Nate R, Luke.

Lakers would then have: Fish, Kobe, Bynum, Gasol, Ariza with new bench of Farmar, Sasha, D Lee, T Thomas, J powell and Marbury if they wanted to keep him around. If not they could save 12 million on the cap next season.

[Erik Eleven]

I'd do that Battier trade in a heartbeat, DD. Not so convinced about RJ being the best we can get for Odom.

In general, I think we can rule out any 5-8 player trades (like the ones posted above), simply because Phil won't approve of it. He's historically been unwilling to make trades at all during the season unless they're smaller in size and total no-brainers (Gasol). I agree with him that we should be cautious with trading too many players during the season. The last thing we need is a complete overhaul, we just need one or two tweaks at the most.

Odom for Battier makes a whole lot of sense to me. Battier is a total class act player — a great team mate, sky-high IQ, a reliable and great defender, a clutch knock down sniper, he's 100% focused for 48 minutes in every game he plays. He'd pick up the triangle offense in record time, just like Gasol did simply because he's an extremely bright and humble guy. What we lose is Odom's rebounding and running the break. But between the increased minutes in the second unit for Powell and Ariza, I don't see losing Odom working against us when we add Battier to the starting line-up.

If we get Battier and he remains healthy, we can beat any team in the Finals. Bring it on, Celtics and Cavs.

[Erik Eleven]

Could Adelman resist a combo of Farmar and Radmanovic? Could it be that he would see a way of utilizing them the way he used Bibby and Stojakovic in Sacramento?

If I were Mitch, before I pull out the Odom card, I'd propose Radmanovic and Farmar for Battier and Barry.

The next offer I'd make would be to Portland. Farmar and Mihm for Blake.


Both trades work under the CBA.

Thoughts?

[lakeshow248]

Farmar is not Mike Bibby and Vlad is not as smart as Peja. The Rockets dont' need a pg they got Alston and Brooks who are better then him.

The Farmar and Blake is the funniest because Blake is an awesome shooter and Farmar can't make one.

Now, Marion/ Haslem for Odom and Vlad is a stone cold lock. it works under the cba.

Fish, Kobe, Bynum, Gasol & MATRIX..... Farmar, Sasha, Haslem, Mihm, Powell, Ariza, Luke.. that team would beat Boston. Matrix would galvanize the defense w/ blks, stls and an IQ that can handle the idea of rotation and taking a charge; on offense give the lakers a finisher inside off the cuts that supposed to be run. Not to mention his abilty to finish in the open floor and make free throws when they count unlike, Lamar. He'd save the same money as Odom would once the season is over so it is just a right now move.

Miami would have Chalmers, Wade, Anthony/Blount, Odom and Beasley w/ Vlad off the bench w/ Quinn, Cook, Wright. Plus the big factor for the Heat they would likely be able to re sign him w/ the past relationship w/ Odom and Riley and the fact he had his best season their.

[larry14r]

Farmar is not Mike Bibby and Vlad is not as smart as Peja. The Rockets dont' need a pg they got Alston and Brooks who are better then him.

The Farmar and Blake is the funniest because Blake is an awesome shooter and Farmar can't make one.

Now, Marion/ Haslem for Odom and Vlad is a stone cold lock. it works under the cba.

Fish, Kobe, Bynum, Gasol & MATRIX..... Farmar, Sasha, Haslem, Mihm, Powell, Ariza, Luke.. that team would beat Boston. Matrix would galvanize the defense w/ blks, stls and an IQ that can handle the idea of rotation and taking a charge; on offense give the lakers a finisher inside off the cuts that supposed to be run. Not to mention his abilty to finish in the open floor and make free throws when they count unlike, Lamar. He'd save the same money as Odom would once the season is over so it is just a right now move.

Miami would have Chalmers, Wade, Anthony/Blount, Odom and Beasley w/ Vlad off the bench w/ Quinn, Cook, Wright. Plus the big factor for the Heat they would likely be able to re sign him w/ the past relationship w/ Odom and Riley and the fact he had his best season their.

Expect that Miami might not want to do that even if they owe us. Also Marion can't shoot no more, and in the triangle offense you have to shoot the ball.

[Jajwanda]

I think that the deal that suits Chicago best would be a three-way deal.

My suggestion would be Kirk Hinrich for Farmar+Radmanovic+filler+2nd.

Radmanovic's deal has 19m left on it while Hinrich's deal has close to 37m left on it. Sure it's not an expiring but Farmar is worth much more than a first round pick. There's a good chance Chicago can find a third team who would be willing to give up a nice player for Farmar.

They save cash (18m is quite a lot) and get a great young player who can thrive in the open court. We get a fantastic fit at PG without shooting payroll in the foot. Also we don't trade Odom and keep him for a more complicated and important deal possibly with the Rockets (Odom for Battier+Landry possibly).

The tough high scoring Los Angeles Lakers.

PG- Hinrich, Fisher
SG- Bryant, Vujajic
SF- Battier, Ariza
PF- Gasol, Landry
C- Bynum, Powell

[hermes]

why would miami give up Haslem, who is a tough hustle guy and comes up huge in the playoffs

for vlad?

[lakeshow248]

My guess would be Haslem would be on the bench getting 20 min a game and thus not affecting anything. Odom and Beasley starting. As well the Heat needs a shooter from three which Vlad would give them when Wade goes in and kicks it out.

Another thing Haslem is on board for this year and next and he might not make it too the playoffs to use that hustle.

[lakeshow248]

And another benefit of doing the deal as a whole is they are in a good position to land Odom next year because of his past history with the team. Meanwhile the Lakers' would be in tough to get Marion back barring a big pay cut.

[Jajwanda]

This was suggested in the trade forum.

Gadzuric/Lue for Mihm/Radmanovic.

To me it's a fair deal although I really think that you could probably just take the two guys out of it and make it 2nd+Mihm for Lue.

Lue provides that 3 point threat, he's quick enough to stay with the smaller guys and puts the pressure on Farmar to perform again. He's low maintenance, has experience and is a good player to have against Chris Paul, Tony Parker and guys of that ilk. To be sure he's no game-changed but he'd be nice to have on the team.

[lakeshow248]

I'd counter that deal w/ a Lue for Mihm trade. Vlad is more valuable than Gadzuric IMO, especially when Dan got similar monies owed to him. 6.2, 6.7 and 7.2 over the next three years, he got a better agent than Vlad.

On the other hand Lue and Mihm make the same money and are both expiring next season. Lue is already in the mix of Sessions, Ridnour and C Bell for playing time so landing him would be reasonable.

[Jajwanda]

I'll be honest, it's not an ideal solution. It's not amazing, he probably won't do too much to help us against the large PGs we also struggle against but the truth of the matter is that getting Lue back as the third PG will help Farmar. He will work that much harder knowing there is someone else again behind his back that fits what the triangle is looking for in safe play, three point shooting, and defense.

Would it help against the Celtics? To some degree. It's not like Rondo is 6-3 or 6-4. Do we need it? Hell yes. Who knows if he plays well enough Farmar may become an asset. Championship teams make trades like that. They trade for small pieces to the puzzle. They don't blow up their team senseless.

It also in no way impedes our ability to improve at the SF position. It's a very simple move that I think we may see if Farmar's struggles continue.

[Erik Eleven]

I have no interest in trading for Gadzuric. He's done.

I'd offer a straight-up trade of Haslem for Radman. Take it or leave it.

Never liked Marion. I doubt he'd be as willing to extend his contract for less as Odom might be, should we keep him. Battier is a more valuable return for Odom, one that better fits our needs and our chemistry, in my opinion. Plus, Marion's ugly shot is not falling anymore.

I'd also like to reiterate that I think we must make an offer for Farmar and Mihm for Blake. At least that would give them some better depth at C, should Oden go down with an injury again. And, there's no telling how high Farmar's ceiling could be in that type of offense. I wouldn't categorically rule it out as a possibility of happening.

If we would get Haslem for Radman, Battier for Odom and Blake for Mihm and Farmar, we'd have a line-up of:

Blake, Fisher
Kobe, Sasha
Battier, Ariza, Haslem
Gasol, Powell
Bynum, Mbenga

Sign Zo for the vet's minimum and dump Mbenga.

Fisher, Blake, Yue
Kobe, Sasha, (Ariza)
Battier, Ariza, Haslem
Gasol, Powell (Haslem)
Bynum, Zo, (Gasol)

Bring it on, Leprechauns.

I realize that they probably wouldn't shake things up this much amidst a championship run season, but any of those trades alone would improve our team, in my opinion. Pipe? Fine, let's stay put and whip Farmar and Fisher to play better perimeter defense, and the poor help defense of Radman into shape. We're 21-3 and there's lots of time for improvement before June is here.

And, to whomever might want to increase their jersey sales in China, they can have Yue to get the deal done. Those are my two cents.

[Jajwanda]

The impossible one is the Radman trade but there are other possibilities to assist with that. I'm under the assumption that Mourning can take basically all of the Lakers' backup C minutes. That's about 14 mpg. I think he still has that left in him and I've always wanted him to be a Laker. Also the 5 is a very easy position to learn and the man has a very high BBall IQ.

How many minutes does that leave? Probably about 12mpg behind Gasol. I think Powell can cover that.

You still need to go get yourself another PF/C just in case but you've basically covered the majority of your problems. Keep in mind this depth is necessary mostly for the regular season and early post-season. In the Celtic series I want our starters gunning for maximum minutes.

As for Odom-Battier, I worry about that deal. It could seriously bite us in the ass in the playoffs. I'd rather pursue Tayshaun or Marion for that reason.