San Jose Sharks

[GswStorm3]

Dude look at any sports franchise for the last 10-15 years and compare records the Wings have the best winning % in that stretch only other team that would come close to having our success is the Patroits.

The Wings have 4 cups since 1997 thats pretty damn good and esp in the new NHL where people wrote us off saying we can't "buy wins/cups" anymore and we are "old"

The Sharkies deserve all the credit in the world they are amazing this season but they might fall a bit once people adjust to their game. It's been what 35 games and they are automatic cup champs? Also Patrick Marleau for MVP? If anything it's Malkin or Corsby for MVP look at the numbers. Malkin has more points and is leading the league in assists so it's not all Crosby feeding him the puck.

I dont care what your franchise has done in the past 15 years, you fans act like your some current dynasty that has had a 3peat or something. Yes you won last year, but lost the season before in the conference finals and before that had a string of first round exits. The Wings are a great franchise but its the fact that most of there fans act like they are currently unbeatable that makes fans of other teams sick. Right now San Jose is a better team and its just stupid to say thing's like " I think a eastern team will win". Why would you think a eastern team will win? are you insinuating that the top teams in the East are better then the ones in the West?

What do you mean adjust to there game? I dont expect them to go 65-17 or some crazy record like that but your just grasping at staws if you think trying to figure them out is all the sudden going to change them from being a powerhouse into just a average to good team. Its not even about record but its more to do with how they are winning games and how dominant they are at home. I dont know how anyone could think that if Det and SJ played a series starting today that Detroit would win. Detroit has lost to basically all the good teams they have played this season and they have MAJOR goaltending issues.

I said Marleau is a MVP "candidate" you know, a candidate meaning one of many? He's easily been one of the 5-6 best skaters this season and his numbers are also good. True impact isnt solely based on who has the most points. Marleau is a much better defensive player and penalty killer then anyone of Malkin, Crosby or Ovechkin.

Keep hating on SJ all youd like but they look like a well oiled machine right now and if they stay away from injuries they should be the favorites in the west once the playoffs start. Detroit plays San Jose on Thursday night and I fully expect Detroit to win this game seeing SJ will be playing the 2nd game of a back to back and its 3rd game in 4 nights so I wouldnt get too excited if your team wins this game.

Tremendous point, Marleau is very underrated defensively especially on the PK.

[Celtics_Champs]

6-0 Wings.

Statement made.

[Snayr]

6-0 Wings.

Statement made.

No kidding eh? lol. Also, don't look now but the Sharks find themselves losers of two straight. Is the sky now falling? *Gasp*

[Mr Swagtastic]

If anyone wants a good read on the game here it is http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_d ... nhl,130150

Pretty nice read also great to see Ty get a shutout I would start playing him more and more over Osgood and leave Osgood nice and rested come playoff time which is pretty far away. If I am the Wings I might look for a sleeper goalie who might just help out. I wonder how cheap Turco is this season he could be a good pickup if he is on the cheap end of things and he is a great regular season goalie and with our defense I expect some respectable numbers.

I wonder how the Sharks will do in their next 5 games vs the Rangers, Canucks (with Sundin), Blues, Stars and Wild. Going to be interesting to watch. We play the Kings, Blues, Preds, Aves and Blackhawks in our next 5. Next game between the Sharks and Wings is January 17th 2009 at San Jose.

[Griff83]

6-0 Wings.

Statement made.

Detroit needed this win alot more then the Sharks did. Detroit had already lost to the Sharks and were just coming off a home loss to the Avs. This game was a good performance by the Wings but it certainly wasnt nearly as bad as the score indicates. Nabakov was horrible and if he even played decent its a 2-0, 3-0 game at worst. Again, im not one bit suprised Detroit won, they were on home ice and well rested while the Sharks were playing a back to back and there 3rd game in 4 nights.

[Griff83]

If anyone wants a good read on the game here it is http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_d ... nhl,130150

Pretty nice read also great to see Ty get a shutout I would start playing him more and more over Osgood and leave Osgood nice and rested come playoff time which is pretty far away. If I am the Wings I might look for a sleeper goalie who might just help out. I wonder how cheap Turco is this season he could be a good pickup if he is on the cheap end of things and he is a great regular season goalie and with our defense I expect some respectable numbers.

I wonder how the Sharks will do in their next 5 games vs the Rangers, Canucks (with Sundin), Blues, Stars and Wild. Going to be interesting to watch. We play the Kings, Blues, Preds, Aves and Blackhawks in our next 5. Next game between the Sharks and Wings is January 17th 2009 at San Jose.

Your not going to get Turco cheap, hes finally turning it around and they dont have a legitment tender who can take over #1 duties if he was traded. The Wings would have a better chance at trying to pry away a goalie like Garon, Leclaire or Tellqvist and those guys arent that much of a upgrade over Conklin if at all.

"I wonder how the Sharks will do in their next 5 games vs the Rangers, Canucks (with Sundin), Blues, Stars and Wild. Going to be interesting to watch. We play the Kings, Blues, Preds, Aves and Blackhawks in our next 5. Next game between the Sharks and Wings is January 17th 2009 at San Jose"

^^They just beat the Rangers and smoked the Canucks who are NOT with Sundin yet.

[burn1down]

Doesnt matter who is doing what as long as the Flames are playing the way they are. This team is built for the playoffs, have arguably more or the same depth as any team in the league, legit superstars. . . . .this is a team to watch

[Griff83]

Doesnt matter who is doing what as long as the Flames are playing the way they are. This team is built for the playoffs, have arguably more or the same depth as any team in the league, legit superstars. . . . .this is a team to watch

Common now. If all three teams (SJ, Det and Calgary) play up to there max potential, San Jose and Detroit are still better teams then the Flames. Every team in the league goes thru peaks and valleys thruout the season and the Flames caught the Sharks at a period where they had tailed off a bit and werent playing there best hockey. Calgary's streak looks to have come to a hault with a home loss to PHX and now a loss in Colorado. Calgary is a very good team but id still rank SJ, DET and BOS ahead of them.

The Flames have been built to win in the playoffs few a few years now. How much did they do last season or the season before that?

[burn1down]

Doesnt matter who is doing what as long as the Flames are playing the way they are. This team is built for the playoffs, have arguably more or the same depth as any team in the league, legit superstars. . . . .this is a team to watch

Common now. If all three teams (SJ, Det and Calgary) play up to there max potential, San Jose and Detroit are still better teams then the Flames. Every team in the league goes thru peaks and valleys thruout the season and the Flames caught the Sharks at a period where they had tailed off a bit and werent playing there best hockey. Calgary's streak looks to have come to a hault with a home loss to PHX and now a loss in Colorado. Calgary is a very good team but id still rank SJ, DET and BOS ahead of them.

The Flames have been built to win in the playoffs few a few years now. How much did they do last season or the season before that?

When have you ever seen anything remotely close to MAX POTENTIAL from the Sharks come playoff time? Anything remotely close.
Come a 7 game series (without back to backs in less than a 24 hour turnaround on the road), SJ will not be able to keep up with Det, and not be able to keep up with Calgary. They have proven it over and over again

[Griff83]

Doesnt matter who is doing what as long as the Flames are playing the way they are. This team is built for the playoffs, have arguably more or the same depth as any team in the league, legit superstars. . . . .this is a team to watch

Common now. If all three teams (SJ, Det and Calgary) play up to there max potential, San Jose and Detroit are still better teams then the Flames. Every team in the league goes thru peaks and valleys thruout the season and the Flames caught the Sharks at a period where they had tailed off a bit and werent playing there best hockey. Calgary's streak looks to have come to a hault with a home loss to PHX and now a loss in Colorado. Calgary is a very good team but id still rank SJ, DET and BOS ahead of them.

The Flames have been built to win in the playoffs few a few years now. How much did they do last season or the season before that?

When have you ever seen anything remotely close to MAX POTENTIAL from the Sharks come playoff time? Anything remotely close.
Come a 7 game series (without back to backs in less than a 24 hour turnaround on the road), SJ will not be able to keep up with Det, and not be able to keep up with Calgary. They have proven it over and over again

I couldnt give 2 **** what SJ has done in the PAST seeing they have a new coach with a totally new system and players like Clowe, Pavelski and Setoguchi have emerged and years past they didnt have this quality of depth. Keep using this argument that SJ are playoff chokers. but anyone that watches hockey and this team can see this is a totally different team then the ones under Ron Wilson and a big reason for the change has to do with the confidence TM installs in his team which Wilson was never able to do.

San Jose cant keep up with Calgary in a 7 game series?

Tell me what the outcome of there playoff series from last year was?

[burn1down]

Common now. If all three teams (SJ, Det and Calgary) play up to there max potential, San Jose and Detroit are still better teams then the Flames. Every team in the league goes thru peaks and valleys thruout the season and the Flames caught the Sharks at a period where they had tailed off a bit and werent playing there best hockey. Calgary's streak looks to have come to a hault with a home loss to PHX and now a loss in Colorado. Calgary is a very good team but id still rank SJ, DET and BOS ahead of them.

The Flames have been built to win in the playoffs few a few years now. How much did they do last season or the season before that?[/quote]


When have you ever seen anything remotely close to MAX POTENTIAL from the Sharks come playoff time? Anything remotely close.
Come a 7 game series (without back to backs in less than a 24 hour turnaround on the road), SJ will not be able to keep up with Det, and not be able to keep up with Calgary. They have proven it over and over again[/quote]

I couldnt give 2 **** what SJ has done in the PAST seeing they have a new coach with a totally new system and players like Clowe, Pavelski and Setoguchi have emerged and years past they didnt have this quality of depth. Keep using this argument that SJ are playoff chokers. but anyone that watches hockey and this team can see this is a totally different team then the ones under Ron Wilson and a big reason for the change has to do with the confidence TM installs in his team which Wilson was never able to do.

San Jose cant keep up with Calgary in a 7 game series?

Tell me what the outcome of there playoff series from last year was?[/quote]

So, you dont give 2 ***** about what happened in the past, because teams are different now, and to solidify your argument, you brought up last year. Beauty. You must be a Sharks fan

[Griff83]

I dont use whats happened in the past cloud my judgement when watching a team. Just because they have had previous troubles in the playoffs after good regular seasons doesnt mean THIS team will also struggles especially when its a team with a new coach, new system and some impactfull new players. If you want to use the argument "well they have choked before so that means they will choke again" then all the means to you but its not a very educated stance when debating which teams have the best chance to win. By this logic the Ducks should have a better chance in this years upcoming playoffs then the Sharks seeing they have experianced sucesss in the playoffs over the past few seasons and the Sharks havent,

No I brought up last seasons SJ vs Calgary series to just show how stupid your previous post was where you said SJ cant keep up with Det or Calgary in a 7 game series because they have proven it over and over again. What were you thinkin when you typed that out? Did you forget these 2 teams played in last years playoffs?

Im a Leafs fan. I have no bias towards SJ. He'll last year I even called out Marleau and called him one of the most overrated players in the league.

[GswStorm3]

Calgary doesn't have the offensive fire power to beat DET or San Jose in a 7 game playoff series.