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Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#1 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:19 pm

Straight out of the Machine's mouth in the post game interview. He's going to talk to his agent and Mitch and send it to the league.

I don't think he'll get very far, plus it will probably result in a hefty fine, but he does have a point. Sasha is one of the players on our team who truly "cares" and I like that.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#2 » by hermes » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:36 pm

maybe he was referring to their cleanliness?
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#3 » by TonyMontana » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:39 pm

TylersLakers wrote:Straight out of the Machine's mouth in the post game interview. He's going to talk to his agent and Mitch and send it to the league.

I don't think he'll get very far, plus it will probably result in a hefty fine, but he does have a point. Sasha is one of the players on our team who truly "cares" and I like that.

Tyler you know I got love for you brah, but Sasha needs to STFU and play his role, he's complaining too much and focus on his game. :lol:
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#4 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:46 pm

TonyMontana wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:Straight out of the Machine's mouth in the post game interview. He's going to talk to his agent and Mitch and send it to the league.

I don't think he'll get very far, plus it will probably result in a hefty fine, but he does have a point. Sasha is one of the players on our team who truly "cares" and I like that.

Tyler you know I got love for you brah, but Sasha needs to STFU and play his role, he's complaining too much and focus on his game. :lol:


Agree with you on that point. Lol.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#5 » by Minhee » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:48 pm

he is also turning into a Lil whinner who moans and cry all day. His game is one dimensional, committs stupid fouls. He should have known during the game that the refs were whistle happy yet he kept going physical up front around midcourt to the 3 point line. He needs to suck it up and take partial blame. Instead of playing man d on CP3, he kept testing the refs by harassing him around midcourt. 3 fouls in 3 minutes. He also went 3 point happy all night instead of playing a discipline offense.

I understand he is emotional but he makes too many excuses. In the finals he kept complaint about the refs and Celtics being dirty, this year he is unhappy with the refs. He belongs in Boston with his excuses.

Rick Fox was our emotional leader in the championship, but never did he cry or moan about the refs or opposing team being dirty. Fox always did something about it. If teams were dirty, Fox would be the first to play dirty back (his hard foul on Malone and Foster showed he was not backing down). His WWF style on Doug Christie showed how he will fight back if you dare hit him. Fox refuses to give other team credit if they won but never did he pointed fingers at refs and cry to the media. He would always man up and convince the team to be more intense. We need a Rick Fox in the locker and not Sasha crying ways.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#6 » by fareweatherfan » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:57 pm

I agree with Tony, minhee, and probably everyone else -- Sasha needs to STFU and play ball. He has always been a whiner and it drives me ape-sh*t. If I have to see that stupid look on his face with his palms in the air one more time...

That being said, the refs were particularly horrendous last night. Sasha never got his head back in the game after that bogus third foul was called on him. Joey Crawford doesn't like whiners (see Tim Duncan), players all know that, and must play accordingly.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#7 » by TonyMontana » Wed Jan 7, 2009 7:18 pm

He thinks he's this EURO SUPERSTAR thats on the same level as Kobe and Pau.
He's not, he's a decent shooter which has sucked this whole season and somebody needs to bring his homo acting/looking ass to reality.
Honestly I dont know if you can tell but I dispise his ass being on this team.
He's an embarassment to this team with his crying whinning and NO GAME having ass.
Im sick of seeing him on this team.
I wish we could ship HIM Vlad and Luke with his foot in Sashas behind out of this team.
Sucking up all this money and one is more worthless than the other.
Pathetic.
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Post#8 » by Sedale Threatt » Wed Jan 7, 2009 7:20 pm

There were definitely some curious calls, but we would have had to have played significantly better to even dream about playing the ref card. I'm going to blame our crappy defense, and lack of offensive execution down the stretch, before pointing the finger elsewhere.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#9 » by TonyMontana » Wed Jan 7, 2009 7:24 pm

Whats jacked up about Sasha last night was, Okay so we got some bad calls, BUT when Kobe comes up to you and tells you to STFU you STFU, end of story.
He didnt he still kept on running his mouth.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#10 » by nermindee » Wed Jan 7, 2009 8:01 pm

wow... i dont post much here but as soon as i read all the hate about sasha, you all got on my nerves... sure, pick on sasha about the loss like it was all him... please... all of you are biased superstar nut huggers... I was at the game an Pau was Davids Wests dog last night. You want to drop some hate? y dont you keep making threads about how Pau cant move his feet and has crappy reaction time. Wow a thread about sasha complaining like he didnt have the right. I dont see the pistons board making a thread when rasheed gets his regular techs.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#11 » by TonyMontana » Wed Jan 7, 2009 8:12 pm

nermindee wrote:wow... i dont post much here but as soon as i read all the hate about sasha, you all got on my nerves... sure, pick on sasha about the loss like it was all him... please... all of you are biased superstar nut huggers... I was at the game an Pau was Davids Wests dog last night. You want to drop some hate? y dont you keep making threads about how Pau cant move his feet and has crappy reaction time. Wow a thread about sasha complaining like he didnt have the right. I dont see the pistons board making a thread when rasheed gets his regular techs.

Who are you?
YOU GUYS?
You need to read the whole thread before you come out attacking YOU GUYS.
Im the only one that dispises Sasha, where do you get YOU GUYS FROM?
Also I have posted my share of dislikes about Sasha and I could careless about the whole superstar nut hugger reply by you, since I could careless about superstars and you with your post.
Go away, or actually go back to the Pistons board and comeback when you have something worthy to add other than this garbage post insulting everybody for speaking out about Sasha and his ignorant approach to his stupid foul and then getting in C.Ps face and adding a tech and two points to our lose for his stupidity.
I could see why you dont post here much, you dont have much to contribute.
Byeeeeeeeeee.
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Post#12 » by Minhee » Wed Jan 7, 2009 8:15 pm

You did not just compare Sheed's tirade to Sasha crying. Sheer actually better his teammates when he gets emotional and his game is better. Sure his T hurts 1 point. Sasha does not better people nor does he play better. He Chucks up 3s all night, commits bad foul and whines about every calls and cry about other teams physical play. Sheed is not one dimensional, does not cry about Ray Allen taking him to the hole, does not make excuses about refs or dirty play. Sasha does all that. You think the Pistons would have a title without sheed? I promise you we can win without sasha.
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Post#13 » by TonyMontana » Wed Jan 7, 2009 8:46 pm

Minhee wrote:You did not just compare Sheed's tirade to Sasha crying. Sheer actually better his teammates when he gets emotional and his game is better. Sure his T hurts 1 point. Sasha does not better people nor does he play better. He Chucks up 3s all night, commits bad foul and whines about every calls and cry about other teams physical play. Sheed is not one dimensional, does not cry about Ray Allen taking him to the hole, does not make excuses about refs or dirty play. Sasha does all that. You think the Pistons would have a title without sheed? I promise you we can win without sasha.

No ish......... Good post Minhee, but you forgot to add, when Shed is addressed by his team captain he STFU and plays harder and better.
Sasha continued to run his mouth EVEN after Kobe addressed his wrong doings and told him to Shut his mouth, yet Sasha came back at Kobe running his mouth.
Me personally Im sick of of Shasha and his Flopps his mouth and at least last year he was doing well and we could tolarate his crap, this year not only has he SUCKED but he has done more damage than good.
He will get traded by the end of this season, mark my words.
He needs to pack his bags with his eyeliners and hair bands and start thinking about playing somewhere like Memphis or Minny cause thats all he's good for.
A lottery bound team not a team that is contending for a title.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#14 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jan 7, 2009 9:27 pm

This is one of the things that Phil specifically talked about during his interview on KCAL (or whatever it was).

He implied that we have a habit of not adjusting to how the refs are calling the game (sometimes they let physical play go, sometimes not) and we end up in foul trouble and crying about calls all night. He said that you can usually tell early in the game how it's going to be called and that the team needed to adjust their style of play based on that, which is clearly something we weren't doing.

Sasha is whining because he is only effective on defense when he is allowed to pester his opponent. Last night the refs just weren't having it and Sasha failed to adjust. He needs to quit bitching and listen to Phil more often.

On a side note, it's amazing how well Ariza played CP3 in the 2nd quarter. He wasn't all up in his face but he was far more effective than Vujacic because he kept him from getting in the lane and forced him to pass the ball early.
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Post#15 » by dockingsched » Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:02 pm

sasha needs to stfu. after i heard his sound bites on my way home i was disgusted by how much of a bitch he comes off as. "he called me names like bitch, i'm going to talk to my agent/mitch". cry baby.
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Post#16 » by dockingsched » Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:05 pm

nermindee wrote:wow... i dont post much here but as soon as i read all the hate about sasha, you all got on my nerves... sure, pick on sasha about the loss like it was all him... please... all of you are biased superstar nut huggers... I was at the game an Pau was Davids Wests dog last night. You want to drop some hate? y dont you keep making threads about how Pau cant move his feet and has crappy reaction time. Wow a thread about sasha complaining like he didnt have the right. I dont see the pistons board making a thread when rasheed gets his regular techs.


feel free to contribute in the game thread were there is plenty of criticism towards all players that deserve blame. don't go around talking about people blaming sasha for a loss when no such thing occured. hes part of the reason, but no one called him the reason.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#17 » by lakersfanatic » Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:32 pm

The guy is frustrated that he's not doing as well as last year.. so he's blaming the refs. Yes, i admit there were some questionable calls and yes sasha has been known for flopping so they're going to be harder on him with calls.

Just play ball.. eventually it'll turn your way.... complaining nationally isn't going to help.. it'll only put more fuel into the fire.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#18 » by TonyMontana » Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:32 pm

dcash4 wrote:sasha needs to stfu. after i heard his sound bites on my way home i was disgusted by how much of a bitch he comes off as. "he called me names like bitch, i'm going to talk to my agent/mitch". cry baby.

No ish............. Listen to his interview.
SO Sasha what happened with the game, SO HE REPLIES BACK.
I dont want to talk about the game but me and MY AGENTS :lol: are going to send a letter to the league.........Like WTH is your agent going to do????
Then he says it again, I dont want to comment on the game when the reporter asks him about THE GAME and he says the same freaking thing.............. What an IDIOT.
I swear this guy thinks he some HOT ISH on this team.
I got more respect for our ball boy than I do for him.

Here the link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR-NiH6vwXk
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#19 » by TylersLakers » Thu Jan 8, 2009 1:02 am

Machine has a point about the officiating last night, but you have to move on. Sending a letter to the league is going to do absolutely nothing. Some nights officiating is like that and you have to battle through it, not complain, and move onto the next game.

I don't think Sasha deserves all the criticism that you guys are giving him, but at the same time, he does need to check himself at the door. He's not Kobe, Phil or LO. Blaming the officials is the easy way out - no matter how deserved it is. Quit crying, move onto Golden State tonight, and stick some threes.
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Re: Machine: "Refs were disgusting." 

Post#20 » by snaquille oatmeal » Thu Jan 8, 2009 1:45 pm

you can not change the settings on the machine, the machine is the machine.

smell it, smell it, smell it, now take it.
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