Barclays Center/Fear Prokhorov Thread

[vincecarter4pres]

LBJ + nets = not even for 200million...

thats it im jumping ship its been nice being a net fan for 5 years guys...


still think we can land a big FA ???

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Your username is pistons in 6 and you're jumping ship because of some speculation by a shoe exec that we don't land Lebron, which, btw we all knew already anyway?!

You were never a Nets fan.

Good bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

[NetsForce]

Personally Lebron isn't the first player I want the Nets to go after in 2010 anyway... Amare is the player I want. It's another longshot, but I think he's a more realistic target given the fact that Phoenix will probably fall off hard in 2 years time and Amare won't want to waste his prime in a rebuilding effort.

[Yawk5]

With all the moves that the Knicks are making, the chances of us landing Lebron are slim to none. But there are still plenty of other real good FA's out there. Paul Pierce, Josh Howard, Dirk Nowitski, Tayshaun Prince, Jamal Crawford, Yao Ming, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, D-Wade, Michael Redd, Tyson Chandler, Durant(restricted), Amare Stoudemire, Tony Parker, Chris Bosh, Caron Butler, Andrei Kirlenko. All good players that would help the Nets improve.

[lurkingobeiscity]

If the funding comes up short they will downsize the project, not drop it entirely. If they get the stadium done there will be opportunities for development in the future. This move is far from dead and that is all the better for the franchise.

[jerseyjac]

If the funding comes up short they will downsize the project, not drop it entirely. If they get the stadium done there will be opportunities for development in the future. This move is far from dead and that is all the better for the franchise.

I agree to an extent...investors are/were looking at the total package and what he was bringing to the area besides just a new arena...

But for the franchise overall, the move would definitely better than any other alternative...though I am partial to the Nets staying in jersey...

[NetsForce]

The project will still be completed. Ratner has more or less secured all of the financing he needs, and the New York state goverment isn't going to let a project as big as this fall through when it would go a long way in stimulating the local economy.

[jerseyjac]

Reduction

[NetsForce]

Pretty much what I expected even before the economy hit the ****.

[VCRJKidd15]

im lost so does that mean its being built or not?

[NetsForce]

It's being built but it's not going to be as elaborate... The design is being simplified so it costs less =]

(My guess is that we will see further reductions to other parts of the Atlantic Yards as well)

[VCRJKidd15]

well as long as we get a damn arena in Brooklyn

[Burberry_HK]

hoorah for the jurassic swamp

[vincecarter4pres]

hoorah for the jurassic swamp

I lol'ed.

[vincecarter4pres]

im lost so does that mean its being built or not?

IMO it's going down in flames.
I highly doubt it is ever built.
My guess is yhe team will be sold as soon as Ratner's stock goes bak up some and stabilizes.
Even though the team continually hemmorages money and profit it is probably one of the most reliable assets Ratner currently owns.

[Preludepunk27]

im lost so does that mean its being built or not?

IMO it's going down in flames.
I highly doubt it is ever built.
My guess is yhe team will be sold as soon as Ratner's stock goes bak up some and stabilizes.
Even though the team continually hemmorages money and profit it is probably one of the most reliable assets Ratner currently owns.

I'm starting to seriously doubt this thing gets done either. I can possibly see Ratner putting the team up for sale as soon as the end of this year personally. A lot of guys in his ownership group bought into it for the sole reason of moving them to brooklyn. The whole complex was going to turn that part of brooklyn around which puts a nice amount of coin in the owners pockets. If it doesn't get done, I really think they'll just cut their loses.

Only problem here is, with whoever buys them, if they can't make this team a title contender within a season or two of purchasing it, they're gonna lose money, just like every other damn owner of this franchise. I think that's going to scare off a lot of potential area buyers. My gut reaction here is this: If Ratner puts the team up for sale, the Nets are moving away from us. Either Seattle or Vegas (extreme long shot after the all-star game debacle) are the destinations I think they'll land in. The only problem I could foresee there is that both those destinations would put the team in the western conference...but I don't see any cities in the east that could use/want a team and would actually make money there.

I'm rambling, but these are just some of the thoughts that have gone through my head lately.

[vincecarter4pres]

I could see a city like St. Louis, maybe somewhere in Virginia or even Nashville.
I sure hope not.
Bring em to Brick City.

[Trueblood]

Nah, I see them staying in the metro area and going to the Rock or renovating IZOD. Still, an Izod renovation will cost over $300 million. Why do that when you have a perfectly good arena in downtown Newark?

Forget St. Louis. They are already oversaturated with 3 teams. Newark is a good option because as long as you're in the metro area, you'll get good corporate sponsor money as well as big time broadcast revenue.

[vincecarter4pres]

Nah, I see them staying in the metro area and going to the Rock or renovating IZOD. Still, an Izod renovation will cost over $300 million. Why do that when you have a perfectly good arena in downtown Newark?

Forget St. Louis. They are already oversaturated with 3 teams. Newark is a good option because as long as you're in the metro area, you'll get good corporate sponsor money as well as big time broadcast revenue.

I agree, let's just hop Ratner or whoever winds up with the team agrees.

[Preludepunk27]

Nah, I see them staying in the metro area and going to the Rock or renovating IZOD. Still, an Izod renovation will cost over $300 million. Why do that when you have a perfectly good arena in downtown Newark?

Forget St. Louis. They are already oversaturated with 3 teams. Newark is a good option because as long as you're in the metro area, you'll get good corporate sponsor money as well as big time broadcast revenue.

So the fact they lose 20 million a year doesn't phase you? Even with the sponsors, owners think the bottom line. We lose money at the IZOD and unless we put a team on the floor that will for 5-6 year actually be a title contender (because we still had bad attendance/lost money in our "pretender years"), we'll end up losing money in Newark as well. It's Brooklyn or bust for the Nets in this area. I honestly don't even think Brooklyn is gonna make them profitable unless we become true contenders consistantly, but it's the organizations best shot. If that falls there, I just cannot realistically see a local ownership group buying them knowing there is a more than likely chance they're just gonna lose money. Unless we got a Mark Cuban-esque owner or Ratner becomes one like him, if Brooklyn falls through, I cannot see the Nets anywhere in this area in the next few years.

[NetsForce]

There's no way the Nets stay at the IZOD center even if it is renovated... No freaking way, look "fans" in the area have already been alienated by the move, it's Brooklyn or bust... And I don't even want to think about what the "bust" option fully entails...