stoudemire to Jazz?

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

HolyToledo
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,110
And1: 1
Joined: Feb 08, 2006

stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#1 » by HolyToledo » Fri Feb 6, 2009 5:45 am

Suns want Stoudemire out. Is he an option or Jazz? Here is a trade that makes Jazz a contender. suns get bargain in Millsap with right to match any offer in off season, Memo, Almond and Collins off books in summer and can resign Memo and Almond for if they want. NYK pick and salary cap space for 2010 off season most important to them. Suns also drop Tucker contract which is kind of long. Jazz get shot blocker to help AK-47 defensively.

Jazz get: Stoudemire, Tucker, Amundsen & Barnes
Suns get: Memo, Korver, Millsap, Almond, Collins and NYk #1 pick

Jazz Lineup: PG Williams Price Knight
SG Miles Brewer Price Tucker
C Stoudemire Boozer Kosta Fess Amundsen
PF Boozer AK-47 Kosta Amundsen
SF Brewer AK-47 Barnes Harpring
Top 4 seed in the West!!! Guaranteed!!!
User avatar
The Sheik
General Manager
Posts: 8,466
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
Location: Irvine, Ca
         

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#2 » by The Sheik » Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:13 am

worst trade ever. Jozef you're off the hook.

Any Amare trade involves Boozer for Amare, perhaps we throw in a 2nd round pick and a right to swap picks...thats it.

your trade is awful, we give up everything.
User avatar
seejaydeja
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,450
And1: 53
Joined: Nov 03, 2005
Location: provo
         

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#3 » by seejaydeja » Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:18 am

Haha wow. Memo and Millsap? and the pick?
No thanks, Stoudemire is good. He might even be great, but we have just as much in Booz right now. Way too much to give up.
Image
User avatar
CAE15
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,141
And1: 699
Joined: Jul 16, 2006
Location: Udoka Azubuike Central
   

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#4 » by CAE15 » Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:42 am

boozer is amare? no, amare is shot blocker for one and he has a more diverse game then boozer, not to mention he is a freak of an athlete. Boozer, Almond and the NY pick. been saying it for awhile.
Image
User avatar
d-will8
Pro Prospect
Posts: 923
And1: 8
Joined: Oct 07, 2006

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#5 » by d-will8 » Fri Feb 6, 2009 7:43 am

Amare's a much better shotblocker than Boozer, but, in spite of that, he's not much of an upgrade defensively. Also, while he's more explosive and unstoppable attacking the rim, there's no way his game's more diverse than Boozer's, at least on the offensive end. The guy has no post game to speak of. His mid-range J's nice, but he doesn't really shoot/hit it unless Nash is creating for him and he's wide open, facing the basket, whereas Boozer is great at creating space and open J's for himself. That's not to say that he's not a dominant scorer or that I wouldn't trade Boozer (and filler) for him, but giving up Memo and Millsap seems excessive, especially given that I'm not really sure whether or not STAT and Booze could co-exist offensively.
User avatar
Ming Kong!
RealGM
Posts: 24,480
And1: 31
Joined: Nov 21, 2002
Location: Jazz fan in Miami, FL.

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#6 » by Ming Kong! » Fri Feb 6, 2009 3:20 pm

I would do Boozer and filler for Amare, but I wouldn't add the NYK pick, since Stoudamire has a player option in 2010-11, so we're basically getting Amare for a year and a half, and then it's anybodies' guess where he'll end up in 2010, and I'm sure he'll be in high demand. Also could we afford to resign Millsap and Okur in 2009, then Amare in 2010? Could they all co-exist together? Is it even worth it? I think not, our front court is fine, we don't need 3 All-Star caliber players in it, what we need is to use the NYK pick to get a young back up for Millsap. I don't wanna hear anything about keeping Boozer, because he's obviously prone to injuries and while is always a big question when it comes time to contract time. The draft has been plenty good for us in recent years, and I think with a lottery pick we could certainly get a good back up for Millsap. To me what this team needs is really time. We have 5 studs in Okur, Millsap, AK, Brewer, and Williams, and a few other guys who are good for us as well, we just need a healthy core, and some time to gel and grow, these guys are still not in their prime as far as we know.
User avatar
idajazz
Analyst
Posts: 3,385
And1: 139
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
     

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#7 » by idajazz » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:43 pm

Ming,
As much as I like Millsap he is not the answer at the PF.
He is a fantastic 6th man, or reserve PF.
His lack of size is glaring. If he was 3-4 inches taller..........
What this team needs is a Defensive big, like Perkins in Boston.
I think the best scenario for the Jazz is AK being traded to clear space for a healthy Booz, Millsap and Okur
Then find a defensive big to rotate in as needed. Heck maybe Kufos will develope into that role.

I'm not sure Amare and Sloan would be a good fit either.
Amare has played the phoenix no defense style for to long.
GP
Pro Prospect
Posts: 912
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 14, 2006

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#8 » by GP » Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:39 pm

Since we are currently competing with the Suns for one of the last few playoff spots, I am guessing they would be hesitant to send amare our way.
User avatar
El Turco
GOTB Fantasy Basketball Ultimate 2x Champion
Posts: 53,958
And1: 21,429
Joined: Apr 11, 2007
Location: Frisco
     

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#9 » by El Turco » Fri Feb 6, 2009 7:36 pm

giving up nyk pick for amare would be quite dumb. i rather package that pick with something and try to acquire okafor. that way jazz have a player that actually plays defense and wont bounce in 1.5 years.
TheLowlySquire wrote:Wow, Arda! Huge!


Howard Mass wrote:Arda is not a terrorist. Arda is a good person.
David Ginola 14
Sophomore
Posts: 247
And1: 2
Joined: Jan 04, 2009

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#10 » by David Ginola 14 » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:47 pm

HolyToledo wrote:Suns want Stoudemire out. Is he an option or Jazz? Here is a trade that makes Jazz a contender. suns get bargain in Millsap with right to match any offer in off season, Memo, Almond and Collins off books in summer and can resign Memo and Almond for if they want. NYK pick and salary cap space for 2010 off season most important to them. Suns also drop Tucker contract which is kind of long. Jazz get shot blocker to help AK-47 defensively.

Jazz get: Stoudemire, Tucker, Amundsen & Barnes
Suns get: Memo, Korver, Millsap, Almond, Collins and NYk #1 pick

Jazz Lineup: PG Williams Price Knight
SG Miles Brewer Price Tucker
C Stoudemire Boozer Kosta Fess Amundsen
PF Boozer AK-47 Kosta Amundsen
SF Brewer AK-47 Barnes Harpring

ABSOLUTELY NO...!!!!!

And then Why the NY first pick..? :-?
I'm an Italian Jazz fan...
Sorry for my English...
JrJazzMan
Ballboy
Posts: 6
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#11 » by JrJazzMan » Fri Feb 6, 2009 11:26 pm

Horrible trade!
Sending way too much for Stoudemire, and why would we want to get rid of the Knicks pick in 2010? That could very well be a top 5 pick.
JStockLivesOn
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 4,410
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 07, 2007

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#12 » by JStockLivesOn » Fri Feb 6, 2009 11:31 pm

I miss the days when our good friend's trades were lopsided in OUR favor.

Memo, Millsap, Kyle, and the NY Pick... for Amare and Barnes. I love Amare -- straight up, I might prefer him over Boozer potentially -- and Barnes is a serviceable player, but this is just Old West style robbery.
Image
"Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter."
User avatar
Racer X
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,913
And1: 2
Joined: Apr 20, 2007
Location: S L C

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#13 » by Racer X » Sat Feb 7, 2009 12:31 am

I would absolutely do a Boozer NY Pick for Amare.
Image
hoops4life
General Manager
Posts: 9,121
And1: 31
Joined: May 17, 2005

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#14 » by hoops4life » Sat Feb 7, 2009 2:03 am

I think that I might do that as well. We can't trade any 1st right now, so you can't even include them.
User avatar
CAE15
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,141
And1: 699
Joined: Jul 16, 2006
Location: Udoka Azubuike Central
   

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#15 » by CAE15 » Sat Feb 7, 2009 2:20 am

amare could bolt but he may also stay because deron will still be one of the best points in the league wheras nash wont and I think amare isn't as much into the money as boozer not by much less but I just think he would be more loyal. I think he was all for staying in phoenix until things got sloppy and I dont think he cares for the coach.

and hoops4life why cant we trade the NY pick?
Image
hoops4life
General Manager
Posts: 9,121
And1: 31
Joined: May 17, 2005

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#16 » by hoops4life » Sat Feb 7, 2009 5:48 am

There is a very small slight chance that it could go to MN as part of the Korver trade with Philly.
User avatar
CAE15
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,141
And1: 699
Joined: Jul 16, 2006
Location: Udoka Azubuike Central
   

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#17 » by CAE15 » Sat Feb 7, 2009 11:59 pm

then couldn't utah just describe it has future considerations? knowing that there is no chance of the knicks ending this year with a top 6 record, the percentages are almost near impossible but not quite yet, so technically we cant.

if the suns had a backup big like a mcdyss i dont think i would be so opposed to

Boozer
Millsap
Mo

for

Amare
filler

possibly even bringing in a 3rd team? Maybe im just an amare fanboy, but im just imagining what I think he could do for us. He's probably not a better defender then boozer but he at least likes to blocks shot and that would help us so so much. Plus he could do what boozer does on offense for us, not to mention our favorite superstar calls. And we wouldnt have to cringe anytime our PF goes to the line.

The suns get what they want. a guy coming off the books in boozer because he said hes going to opt out and a young stud in millsap then they can decide what to do with both of them and they get a shooter in mo who could help them also.
Image
User avatar
LjJazzman
General Manager
Posts: 8,441
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 11, 2004
Location: The OV

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#18 » by LjJazzman » Sun Feb 8, 2009 12:10 am

Sap AND Boozer for him, you're nuts...
User avatar
CAE15
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,141
And1: 699
Joined: Jul 16, 2006
Location: Udoka Azubuike Central
   

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#19 » by CAE15 » Sun Feb 8, 2009 12:18 am

LjJazzman wrote:Sap AND Boozer for him, you're nuts...


sap or potential top 5 pick? take your pick, millsap is nice and a great hustle player, but our options are more opened after that next year to see what that pick turns into. who knows who we could get. but to me this doesnt sound liek a bad team

Dwill/Knight/Price
Brewer,Korver
Miles/AK/Harp
Amare/AK
Okur/Koufos/Fes

not to mention you throw in a lottery pick in there and it could be a very high pick. Anyway you look at it this team will be very different next year. I'd like to have the PF spot shored up for at least one more eyar and if he does well here why wouldnt he resign with deron and the jazz? Amare is a max player is boozer?
Image
User avatar
Racer X
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,913
And1: 2
Joined: Apr 20, 2007
Location: S L C

Re: stoudemire to Jazz? 

Post#20 » by Racer X » Sun Feb 8, 2009 1:19 am

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

Suns:
Amare

Jazz:
Boozer
Almond
Collins
both 2nd Rounders this year. Lets make it happen!
Image

Return to Utah Jazz