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Post#1 » by writerman » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:01 pm

Despite all the carping about his defensive liabilities and his contract, I'm grateful for Troy Murphy. Win or lose, the guy has been a rock for us. He's a great boardman, and a very difficult cover for any opposing PF because of his range. I don't think he gets enough love from a lot of Pacer fans.

Also in spite of the roller-coaster ride and frustrations of this season, I still like this team. I think we're a decent player, maybe two, away from being solid contenders. We have Danny for our go-to guy and he's signed long term, Daniels has been excellent, Jack has been a revelation to me, Ford has been good when healthy, and I think Hibbert and Rush both have solid futures for the Pacers. And Murphy, as I said above, has been outstanding.

The fact that the Pacers have beaten the Celtics, the Lakers, the Magic, and the Cavs says to me the potential to be a good team is definitely there. I know people are saying this upcoming draft is not a strong one, but getting even a solid if not spectacular post player via a lottery pick certainly wouldn't hurt.

Key to our problems this year, IMO, has been the loss of Dunleavy. I believe if MDJ had been healthy, this team would have made the playoffs and making the second round would not have been at all unthinkable.

God willin' and the creek don't rise, I continue to think there are brighter days ahead for the Pacers in the near future. (Let's just hope it's in Indianapolis!)
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Post#2 » by Miller4ever » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:23 pm

If the Pacers leave Indianapolis, it better be because there's nuclear war going on and Indianapolis can't sustain human life. Although mutant players might not be a bad thing.

Anyways, yeah. I've always liked Murphy since his Notre Dame days, and the only thing wrong with him is his contract, but that's not his fault if the Warriors mistook him for Jesus 2.0.
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Post#3 » by Dunthreevy » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:34 am

Miller4ever wrote:If the Pacers leave Indianapolis, it better be because there's nuclear war going on and Indianapolis can't sustain human life. Although mutant players might not be a bad thing.

Anyways, yeah. I've always liked Murphy since his Notre Dame days, and the only thing wrong with him is his contract, but that's not his fault if the Warriors mistook him for Jesus 2.0.


Exactly! That's why I'll never understand why people talk bad about Murphy and Dunleavy about their contracts. It's not like they held the Pacers hostage for the contracts that they have.
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Re: Murphy 

Post#4 » by croz24 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:47 am

no, the issue with murphy is that he is a born loser...a claim nobody can dispute.
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Post#5 » by realwarriorfan » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:27 am

croz24 wrote:no, the issue with murphy is that he is a born loser...a claim nobody can dispute.


State your facts, Mr LOSER
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Post#6 » by Miller4ever » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:04 am

croz24 wrote:no, the issue with murphy is that he is a born loser...a claim nobody can dispute.


I could say the same about you, and I have just as much reason.
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Post#7 » by count55 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:23 am

It's nice not being a mod anymore.

I can use the ignore function again.

(Though it always seems to result in a sharp uptick in people quoting the guy I put on ignore. :-?
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Re: Murphy 

Post#8 » by MillerTime101 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:06 am

croz24 wrote:no, the issue with murphy is that he is a born loser...a claim nobody can dispute.


I guess you you wouldnt be refereeing to his highschool team that went 20-6 and to the state quarter finals or his career at ND.... might want to do your homework before you go around making statements like that.

All the guy does is hit 3's and grab rebounds, I dont think we would have more then 20 wins if he wasnt on this team.
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Post#9 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:51 am

I like Murphy. He does a lot of things well, and he's a solid individual too.


However, he's wildly overpaid, and not a great PF for his salary. If I could move him for a shorter deal, or a player that is better than him, I'd do it in a second. I just don't see where that fit is.
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Re: Murphy 

Post#10 » by bballpacen » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:19 am

Dunthreevy wrote:
Exactly! That's why I'll never understand why people talk bad about Murphy and Dunleavy about their contracts. It's not like they held the Pacers hostage for the contracts that they have.
No, but that is not the point... However, their contracts are currently holding the Pacers' salary cap hostage... Don't misunderstand me... They are solid players, and I would only dare think about our record if neither were here, but they are still vastly overpaid, and the length of their contracts are deal breakers for every other team...
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Post#11 » by Gremz » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:20 am

count55 wrote:It's nice not being a mod anymore.

I can use the ignore function again.

(Though it always seems to result in a sharp uptick in people quoting the guy I put on ignore. :-?


Aha! I knew there was a reason you weren't responding to my recent posts. :rofl:
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Re: Murphy 

Post#12 » by count55 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:44 pm

bballpacen wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:
Exactly! That's why I'll never understand why people talk bad about Murphy and Dunleavy about their contracts. It's not like they held the Pacers hostage for the contracts that they have.
No, but that is not the point... However, their contracts are currently holding the Pacers' salary cap hostage... Don't misunderstand me... They are solid players, and I would only dare think about our record if neither were here, but they are still vastly overpaid, and the length of their contracts are deal breakers for every other team...


This...though I'd use the word "relatively" instead of "vastly".
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Post#13 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:11 pm

Murph is not a star by any means. But he's not a born loser as the troll stated. Murph gives us a very solid double double nearly every night, is he gonna get 20 points 12 rbs a night prob not every night. I've always said that he makes about 25% too much money but that's the Warriors fault not Murph's, I'll take Murph he's a good locker room guy unlike Zach Randolph/Stephen Jackson/you name it.
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Re: Murphy 

Post#14 » by PR07 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:21 am

I think Murphy can be a solid starter in this league, but when he's your team's best front court player, you're in trouble.
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Post#15 » by MillerTime101 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:12 am

I think we are seeing Murphys ceiling, 14points and 12rebounds on any team is a feat. He doesnt have any baggage, has a great image and most importantly he isnt a selfish player that is going to take away from developing our young bigs.

He knows his game and stays within it, he is overpaid but not by the amount most think.
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Post#16 » by Miller4ever » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:17 am

The only problem with his rebound average is that he fights teammates to get to that. Not these recent games, but when Granger and Dunleavy were around, two guys would catch it at once, and Troy would rip it out.
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Re: Murphy 

Post#17 » by Gremz » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:40 am

I just don't like the fit currently. It was an idea worth trying when JO was still around. He provides a great range compliment to a post scorer. The main problem is we don't have one, and won't acquire one that's ready enough to allow Murphy to use his strengths for team play.

I like his effectiveness on the Defensive boards, regardless if he fights for them, at least he is wanting the rock.

But in all honesty the price tag and fit do not enamor me much.
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