The Official Houston Rockets 2009 NBA Draft Thread

[BaYBaller]

All valid points. But do you think Rubio is ready to play in the NBA? 18 years-old, poor shooter, weak defender, is that a championship PG? Is he even ready to play backup PG? I have my doubts.

IMO Rubio, if he lives up to the expectations, will be nice for the future. However, with this team geared towards a win-now situation, I'm not sure if Rubio is an upgrade over Brooks for next year's contention.

Well first of all I hope you realize the level of competition overseas that Rubio has been playing in is better than college ball over here (he's playing vs professional, grown men over there), so your comparison of Roy being NBA-ready out of college and then questioning if Rubio is doesn't really make sense.

Also the knock on Rubio isn't his defense. As far as I've seen and what's been reporeted he's quite good on defense, plays passing lanes and gets steals. Way better than Brooks on D (but not as good as Lowry IMO). He's thin but tall and long for a PG so I do not believe he will get abused in the post by PGs. His jumper is shaky yes, but the same was said about both CP and D.Will when drafted.

The main thing about Rubio, as I've said before, is his vision. It's actually pretty rare to get PGs with good vision nowadays, and it can turn teams around. I wouldn't say I'm completely sold on Rubio, but at the same time there isn't much on HOU's roster where I would say "no" to if they asked for that person for the #2 pick. In the end though I very very much doubt Morey even has a snowball's chance of getting the pick, but it's fun to speculate nontheless.

[tisbee]

T-Mac United,
I'd agree Rubio isn't ready to be a starting PG on a championship contender. But the team might feel Lowry is capable of starting and there's those talks they had w/Priogni. And no doubt the team would prefer not to have to include Brooks,but...
Suppose they bring over Priogni for 2-3 yrs,Lowry backs up and Rubio gets acclimated for a yr or so getting spot minutes. Adelman likes to play 2 PGs at times so there may be more minutes than one might think.
Again,it's all highly unlikely,but fun to imagine the possibilities.

[PocketRockets]

And if we don't have to don't have to trade brooks....imagine running a 3 pg lineup with brooks, lowry, rubio/priogni!!! That might not be that productive, but **** the NBA's gone to crap anyways.....and that would be a helluva spectacle, no?

[TMU]

All valid points. But do you think Rubio is ready to play in the NBA? 18 years-old, poor shooter, weak defender, is that a championship PG? Is he even ready to play backup PG? I have my doubts.

IMO Rubio, if he lives up to the expectations, will be nice for the future. However, with this team geared towards a win-now situation, I'm not sure if Rubio is an upgrade over Brooks for next year's contention.

Well first of all I hope you realize the level of competition overseas that Rubio has been playing in is better than college ball over here (he's playing vs professional, grown men over there), so your comparison of Roy being NBA-ready out of college and then questioning if Rubio is doesn't really make sense.

Also the knock on Rubio isn't his defense. As far as I've seen and what's been reporeted he's quite good on defense, plays passing lanes and gets steals. Way better than Brooks on D (but not as good as Lowry IMO). He's thin but tall and long for a PG so I do not believe he will get abused in the post by PGs. His jumper is shaky yes, but the same was said about both CP and D.Will when drafted.

The main thing about Rubio, as I've said before, is his vision. It's actually pretty rare to get PGs with good vision nowadays, and it can turn teams around. I wouldn't say I'm completely sold on Rubio, but at the same time there isn't much on HOU's roster where I would say "no" to if they asked for that person for the #2 pick. In the end though I very very much doubt Morey even has a snowball's chance of getting the pick, but it's fun to speculate nontheless.

The comparison with Roy was to portray that the pool of talent in this upcoming draft is significantly weaker than that of 2006. So this isn't necessarily just about Rubio. Thabeet, Harden, Evans, Curry, and Rubio aren't nearly as impressive as Roy when you evaluate those players in terms of instant contribution. Rubio may have played in a better competition but he's still a prospect.

The point I'm trying to get is that Rubio, despite having a tremendous upside, is not ready to help our roster any time soon.

I don't know much about Pablo Prigioni but with our current roster, we're much better off signing a talented European like him without giving up much of our limited assets for the young Rubio. All these speculations are fun, but I hope it doesn't turn into a reality.

p.s.: And to be fair to CP3 and D-Will, while they played in a lesser competition they shot pretty well based on NCAA standards.

[BaYBaller]

All valid points. But do you think Rubio is ready to play in the NBA? 18 years-old, poor shooter, weak defender, is that a championship PG? Is he even ready to play backup PG? I have my doubts.

IMO Rubio, if he lives up to the expectations, will be nice for the future. However, with this team geared towards a win-now situation, I'm not sure if Rubio is an upgrade over Brooks for next year's contention.

Well first of all I hope you realize the level of competition overseas that Rubio has been playing in is better than college ball over here (he's playing vs professional, grown men over there), so your comparison of Roy being NBA-ready out of college and then questioning if Rubio is doesn't really make sense.

Also the knock on Rubio isn't his defense. As far as I've seen and what's been reporeted he's quite good on defense, plays passing lanes and gets steals. Way better than Brooks on D (but not as good as Lowry IMO). He's thin but tall and long for a PG so I do not believe he will get abused in the post by PGs. His jumper is shaky yes, but the same was said about both CP and D.Will when drafted.

The main thing about Rubio, as I've said before, is his vision. It's actually pretty rare to get PGs with good vision nowadays, and it can turn teams around. I wouldn't say I'm completely sold on Rubio, but at the same time there isn't much on HOU's roster where I would say "no" to if they asked for that person for the #2 pick. In the end though I very very much doubt Morey even has a snowball's chance of getting the pick, but it's fun to speculate nontheless.

The comparison with Roy was to portray that the pool of talent in this upcoming draft is significantly weaker than that of 2006. So this isn't necessarily just about Rubio. Thabeet, Harden, Evans, Curry, and Rubio aren't nearly as impressive as Roy when you evaluate those players in terms of instant contribution. Rubio may have played in a better competition but he's still a prospect.

The point I'm trying to get is that Rubio, despite having a tremendous upside, is not ready to help our roster any time soon.

I don't know much about Pablo Prigioni but with our current roster, we're much better off signing a talented European like him without giving up much of our limited assets for the young Rubio. All these speculations are fun, but I hope it doesn't turn into a reality.

p.s.: And to be fair to CP3 and D-Will, while they played in a lesser competition they shot pretty well based on NCAA standards.

Yeah I mean if we had a real, legit starting PG that would make sense, but are you really sold on Brooks being a starter either? If Brooks and Lowry is all he has to compete with it isn't inconceivable that he would win the starting role by season's end (if Brooks and/or Lowry weren't in the package for the pick).

[TMU]

Yeah I mean if we had a real, legit starting PG that would make sense, but are you really sold on Brooks being a starter either? If Brooks and Lowry is all he has to compete with it isn't inconceivable that he would win the starting role by season's end (if Brooks and/or Lowry weren't in the package for the pick).

They're not the best PGs in the league but I certainly have more confidence in them than I have in Rubio. Next year, Brooks and Lowry will be in their 3rd and 4th year respectively, and I expect them to not only show significant strides but also get a better grasp of Adelman's system. I think the two complement each other very well, and for now I'm going to trust them.

[DraftBoy10]

Why wouldn't we go after Rubio?

Cause we have AB & lowry here? First off, whose to say AB isn't involved in the deal, second of all who the hell is Aaron Brooks to impede Rubio?

30 teams in the NBA would take Rubio's game over Brooks with his potential, etc. there, we are one of them.

With that said, I don't think we'll even touch this deal, I doubt Memphis has interest in us, but I do hear Boston offering Rondo for #2 pick which beats anything we can offer.

[moofs]

With that said, I don't think we'll even touch this deal, I doubt Memphis has interest in us, but I do hear Boston offering Rondo for #2 pick which beats anything we can offer.

From where. I'm guessing a message board. Link please? Considering he was the best player on their team after KG went down, I find that hard to believe.

[DraftBoy10]

With that said, I don't think we'll even touch this deal, I doubt Memphis has interest in us, but I do hear Boston offering Rondo for #2 pick which beats anything we can offer.

From where. I'm guessing a message board. Link please? Considering he was the best player on their team after KG went down, I find that hard to believe.

Hoopshype had it at the same time we were mentioned about it. It was also in combination that Boston was looking to move Rondo cause of his personality to Phoenix for possibly Nash. Strange as it sounsd,( I live in Boston 9 months of a year), Rondo to fans is a god-child, but to hear what Rivers said(direct quotes), Ainge said(direct quotes), he seems to be a little bit of an immature rebel though his game speaks differently as he plays incredibly smart. Could be a deceptive kid?

[tisbee]

Draftboy10,
The Boston trading Rondo "story" is total BS. Was deconstructed elsewhere,but the Doc qoutes were from early in Rondo's rookie yr and were in a story by Boston writer as example of how far Rondo had come.

While the two team have prob had a brief "what would you want for the #2?",I really believe they've agreed to Dorsey and cash for the late Memphis First. Memphis can't just sell the pick as it's part of the Gasol trade and Dorsey was huge in Memphis in college. W/that pick the Rockets may then be able to work their way down using the pick and cash/player/TE.

[DraftBoy10]

Draftboy10,
The Boston trading Rondo "story" is total BS. Was deconstructed elsewhere,but the Doc qoutes were from early in Rondo's rookie yr and were in a story by Boston writer as example of how far Rondo had come.

While the two team have prob had a brief "what would you want for the #2?",I really believe they've agreed to Dorsey and cash for the late Memphis First. Memphis can't just sell the pick as it's part of the Gasol trade and Dorsey was huge in Memphis in college. W/that pick the Rockets may then be able to work their way down using the pick and cash/player/TE.

Oh misread then. I don't see a real need to pay up for a pick this year, is anyone that intriguing, I guess Morey will do what he does.

[GhostRaider2007]

Here is a bit of an update from David Hardisty (aka: Clutch) of Clutchfans.

From his twitter page:
http://twitter.com/clutchfans

Source says reason #Rockets name is in trade rumors for top 10 pick is b/c they want 1 of the 4-5 PGs expected to go lottery

[HTown_TMac]

I personally want Evans or Rubio.