Wizards trade #5 pick

Christine-In-AZ · Post #21 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:05 am

Hmm? So now T-Wolves have the 5th, 6th, 18th and 28th in Rd1 and 15 & 17 in Rd2 ...6 picks!

Maybe they help Memphis not have to pass on Rubio and get rid of a pick or two. Like trading first rounders 5, 6, 18 (+2nd Rd #15 & #17) for Memphis' #2, #27 and 2nd Rd #6

...I won't even do the math to see if that could be called fair

JohnVancouver · Post #22 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:21 am

TASTIC wrote:wow big trade....steal by WIZ i think...Foye and Miller are studs..

--- I read it the other way, initial reaction. Miller decided he didn't care to shoot last year, Foye is the guy they traded Brandon Roy for. I didn't know he had shown much but i don't pay a lot of attention to the Wolves. They also took Songalia, Thomas and the man with no vowels Etoian Shrdlu or whatever his name is, big guy.

BVPN · Post #23 » by **BVPN** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:37 am

Is it just me, or does this seem like a failure by the Phoenix FO? If the Wiz were willing to trade that pick for so little, why didn't we trade Richardson for the pick and filler? He's better than Miller, and Foye might have more upside, but the Wiz seem more interested in winning now. I can't imagine that Kerr thinks he would rather keep JRich than have a shot at Curry/Harden or something...

azballer53 · Post #24 » by **azballer53** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:44 am

BVPN wrote:Is it just me, or does this seem like a failure by the Phoenix FO? If the Wiz were willing to trade that pick for so little, why didn't we trade Richardson for the pick and filler? He's better than Miller, and Foye might have more upside, but the Wiz seem more interested in winning now. I can't imagine that Kerr thinks he would rather keep JRich than have a shot at Curry/Harden or something...

i agree ive posted that trade like 5 times ha

azballer53 · Post #25 » by **azballer53** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:49 am

heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

KayZee · Post #26 » by **KayZee** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:54 am

azballer53 wrote:
BVPN wrote:Is it just me, or does this seem like a failure by the Phoenix FO? If the Wiz were willing to trade that pick for so little, why didn't we trade Richardson for the pick and filler? He's better than Miller, and Foye might have more upside, but the Wiz seem more interested in winning now. I can't imagine that Kerr thinks he would rather keep JRich than have a shot at Curry/Harden or something...

ive posted that trade like 5 times ha

JRich is NOT better than Miller and Foye, I don't even think JRich is better than Miller alone but that's debatable
and Miller is an expiring contract

so in short Miller+Foye is a much better deal for Washington
No GM in their right mind would take JRich over Miller+Foye

this is not NBA Live, you can't just throw in a player you don't want and expect another team just take him

KayZee · Post #27 » by **KayZee** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:55 am

azballer53 wrote:heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

why would OKC do that when they have Kevin Durant as their starting SG......

starbosa10 · Post #28 » by **starbosa10** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:57 am

i like azballer's trade. we could use the #3 to get rubio as future pg or a sg to replace jrich and use our #14 to draft clark as sf

azballer53 · Post #29 » by **azballer53** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:57 am

KayZee wrote:
azballer53 wrote:heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

why would OKC do that when they have Kevin Durant as their starting SG......

KD is way more of a 3 than a 2

Russ
J-Rich
KD
Jeff
Collison
thats solid and our pick that they have would go up in value

azballer53 · Post #30 » by **azballer53** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:59 am

starbosa10 wrote:i like azballer's trade. we could use the #3 to get rubio as future pg or a sg to replace jrich and use our #14 to draft clark as sf

and on top of that earl and chuck are expiring

NashtyNas · Post #31 » by **NashtyNas** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:10 am

Wiz destroyed in this trade... Foye was a lottery pick and proved what he could do, and Miller is very good at what he's brought in to do. Holy craperoli, Wiz look good on paper now..

Arenas/Crittenton
Foye/Young/Stevenson
Butler/Miller/Stevenson
Jamison/Blatche
Haywood/McGee

God damn :O

Pretty terrible defensive back court though, they're only defender is Stevenson, and he's there 5th wing.. But that team can score from any and every position, even off the bench. WOW.

BertMacklin · Post #32 » by **BertMacklin** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:31 am

azballer53 wrote:heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

I love that trade just cuz we'd get Rubio, but probably would never happen

Post #33 » by **Spykes** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:33 am

azballer53 wrote:heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

The Thunder laugh you off the phone with that offer. No way J-Rich has enough value to get the #3 pick.

azballer53 · Post #34 » by **azballer53** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:39 am

Spykes wrote:
azballer53 wrote:heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

The Thunder laugh you off the phone with that offer. No way J-Rich has enough value to get the #3 pick.

im a suns fan but all of us underrate jay rich so much just cause he wasnt enough to take a poor team to the playoffs lay off him and never say barbosa is better than him not that you did but people do

RaisingArizona · Post #35 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:40 am

azballer53 wrote:
Spykes wrote:
azballer53 wrote:heres what i think what would be good

Suns trade
J-Rich

Suns Get
Earl Watson
Chuck Atkins
#3

why for okc you get the 2 guard u need and it makes the suns a worse team for next year there for making their pick(that was ours) more valuable

The Thunder laugh you off the phone with that offer. No way J-Rich has enough value to get the #3 pick.

im a suns fan but all of us underrate jay rich so much just cause he wasnt enough to take a poor team to the playoffs lay off him and never say barbosa is better than him not that you did but people do

Barbosa> Jrich

chrice · Post #36 » by **chrice** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:40 am

I think it works out for both sides. Twolves save money, get a chance at a drafting an all-star level player. Wizards get a pure shooter and scoring point guard. I will say that usually the team that trades their lotto pick usually gets bit in the ass later on.

JohnVancouver · Post #37 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:37 am

quote="BVPN"]Is it just me, or does this seem like a failure by the Phoenix FO? If the Wiz were willing to trade that pick for so little, why didn't we trade Richardson for the pick and filler? He's better than Miller, and Foye might have more upside, but the Wiz seem more interested in winning now. I can't imagine that Kerr thinks he would rather keep JRich than have a shot at Curry/Harden or something...[/quote]

---Oh yeah. This is like the draft nights where you sit and wait and then they announce ... Phoenix has sold the pick.
But it's pick your poison really - Kerr makes a deal, we get screwed. He sits pat, we're hooped.
Bartender! Over here ...

Mr. Sun · Post #38 » by **Mr. Sun** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:33 am

hmmmm trade checker says trade doesn't work?

Etan Thomas from Washington

Thomas is in the last non-exercisable year of his contract and cannot be traded. However, next season is currently an early termination option and if is not exercised, then the player can be traded.

Post #39 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:37 am

^ interesting . . .

This trade is great for both teams. Miller and Foye would help take the Wiz closer to the top of the EC.

JohnVancouver · Post #40 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:19 pm

Mr. Sun wrote:hmmmm trade checker says trade doesn't work?

Etan Thomas from Washington

Thomas is in the last non-exercisable year of his contract and cannot be traded. However, next season is currently an early termination option and if is not exercised, then the player can be traded.

-- That's interesting. has the league ok'd it yet?

---- edit: it's official

Washington Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld announced today that the team has acquired guard/forward Mike Miller and guard Randy Foye from the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for Etan Thomas, Darius Songaila, Oleksiy Pecherov and the fifth overall selection in the 2009 NBA Draft. “We are very excited to welcome two solid, proven veterans in Mike Miller and Randy Foye to Washington,” said Grunfeld. “Mike is one of the NBA's elite three-point shooters who can really stretch the defense and provide an all-around game, and Randy has shown the ability to create scoring opportunities for himself and his teammates while providing excellent perimeter defense. Their skills complement our core very well and they will provide a boost as we re-establish ourselves as a contender in the Eastern Conference."