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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#201 » by -SDU- » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:06 am

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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#202 » by Traxxe » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:13 am

Ninjafish wrote:This move would be so bad that it would rival the stupidity of giving up next year's pick in the first place. Our pick next year isn't likely to be much higher than #14. ...
So the trade would just mean that we force ourselves to pick a year later around the same range for no real reason.


Ugh, how do people not get this?

We have NO pick next year. We turn 1 first rounder into to. We draft later in a weak draft and actually get to have a first round pick next year. If we don't do it we twiddle our thumbs next year around draft time.

Then you'll log on and say, "WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PICK! ARGH! I DON'T UNDERSTAND! THIS IS A BETTER DRAFT THAN LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE NO PICK!"

We don't force ourselves to pick a year later. We get the #25 this year and our pick next year in a stronger draft. It's a free pick. There is nothing stupid about that.
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#203 » by Traxxe » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:15 am

JohnVancouver wrote:
TheMoochinator wrote:Wouldn't it be really ironic if this trade doesnt go down? I feel as if that will be an even bigger letdown then if the mystery trade we're talking about is a complete travesty and happens anyways.




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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#204 » by rsavaj » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:29 am

Traxxe wrote:
Ninjafish wrote:This move would be so bad that it would rival the stupidity of giving up next year's pick in the first place. Our pick next year isn't likely to be much higher than #14. ...
So the trade would just mean that we force ourselves to pick a year later around the same range for no real reason.


Ugh, how do people not get this?

We have NO pick next year. We turn 1 first rounder into to. We draft later in a weak draft and actually get to have a first round pick next year. If we don't do it we twiddle our thumbs next year around draft time.

Then you'll log on and say, "WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PICK! ARGH! I DON'T UNDERSTAND! THIS IS A BETTER DRAFT THAN LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE NO PICK!"

We don't force ourselves to pick a year later. We get the #25 this year and our pick next year in a stronger draft. It's a free pick. There is nothing stupid about that.


i don't think you got his post....he's saying that even if we get our pick back next year, we're not going to do SO badly that the pick ends up being higher than 14. if my assumption about his meaning is correct, then i think it renders the rest of your post moot ;)
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#205 » by -SDU- » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:39 am

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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#206 » by BobbieL » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:13 am

Traxxe wrote:
Ninjafish wrote:This move would be so bad that it would rival the stupidity of giving up next year's pick in the first place. Our pick next year isn't likely to be much higher than #14. ...
So the trade would just mean that we force ourselves to pick a year later around the same range for no real reason.


Ugh, how do people not get this?

We have NO pick next year. We turn 1 first rounder into to. We draft later in a weak draft and actually get to have a first round pick next year. If we don't do it we twiddle our thumbs next year around draft time.

Then you'll log on and say, "WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PICK! ARGH! I DON'T UNDERSTAND! THIS IS A BETTER DRAFT THAN LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE NO PICK!"

We don't force ourselves to pick a year later. We get the #25 this year and our pick next year in a stronger draft. It's a free pick. There is nothing stupid about that.



Totally agree with this. And the Suns didn't make the playoffs this year and if they bring back eveyrbody and don't make the playoffs next year - OKC gets the pick - not lottery protected. So, all you that want to keep the 14th pick for an Earl Clark or Hansoborough or whomever, I wll gladly take Budinger at 25 along with next years pick - which might be garbage.
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#207 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:38 am

Traxxe wrote:[ Ugh, how do people not get this?
We don't force ourselves to pick a year later. We get the #25 this year and our pick next year in a stronger draft. It's a free pick. There is nothing stupid about that.


Rsavaj said : i don't think you got his post....he's saying that even if we get our pick back next year, we're not going to do SO badly that the pick ends up being higher than 14. if my assumption about his meaning is correct, then i think it renders the rest of your post moot ;)[/quote]

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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#208 » by TheMoochinator » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:21 am

Traxxe wrote:
JohnVancouver wrote:
TheMoochinator wrote:Wouldn't it be really ironic if this trade doesnt go down? I feel as if that will be an even bigger letdown then if the mystery trade we're talking about is a complete travesty and happens anyways.




--- A lot of times I just kind of want Kerr to do something so awful and hopeless that I can just stop caring and getting my heart broke and my mind bent sideways


Pretty soon we'll have battered woman syndrome.

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Hahaha I feel the exact same
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#209 » by chriscringle95 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:11 am

Hard to build easy to destroy. Suns are going to bomb themselves back into the stone age if they do this.

How many years before another playoff berth with this owner/GM and plan... 10-15 years?
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#210 » by WTFsunsFTW » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:49 am

Good thing the suns secured their 2010 pick since they just made it worth its weight in gold...
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#211 » by aIvin adams » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:10 am

rsavaj wrote:
Traxxe wrote:
Ninjafish wrote:This move would be so bad that it would rival the stupidity of giving up next year's pick in the first place. Our pick next year isn't likely to be much higher than #14. ...
So the trade would just mean that we force ourselves to pick a year later around the same range for no real reason.


Ugh, how do people not get this?

We have NO pick next year. We turn 1 first rounder into to. We draft later in a weak draft and actually get to have a first round pick next year. If we don't do it we twiddle our thumbs next year around draft time.

Then you'll log on and say, "WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PICK! ARGH! I DON'T UNDERSTAND! THIS IS A BETTER DRAFT THAN LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE NO PICK!"

We don't force ourselves to pick a year later. We get the #25 this year and our pick next year in a stronger draft. It's a free pick. There is nothing stupid about that.


i don't think you got his post....he's saying that even if we get our pick back next year, we're not going to do SO badly that the pick ends up being higher than 14. if my assumption about his meaning is correct, then i think it renders the rest of your post moot ;)


but the scenario included us getting OKC late 1st round pick this year. so even if we did better-than-expected next year, we'd have a similar pick in a better draft plus a first rounder (this year). if its 2-for-1 its a great deal, period.
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Re: OK news: Suns trading picks with Oklahoma... 

Post#212 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:47 am

This is the type of trade that happens minutes after the 13th pick, when the targeted player can be obtained.

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