STICKY: Hill stays, Frye signs, Nash very close to extension

Go7enKs · Post #241 » by **Go7enKs** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:55 pm

Let's sign KT and Tim Thomas for the minumum and we almost got our beloved SSOL Suns!

JohnVancouver · Post #242 » by **JohnVancouver** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:57 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
JohnVancouver wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Around $3.8 mil according to ESPN. So more like 1/3 the price.

He signed a 4 year/$30 mil deal in spring '04, so i guess he signed a two year deal after that (SA?)

That's pretty cheap for KT though I don't know how much he has left - could be plenty, I haven't seen him play much since he left Seattle.
Too expensive for us though/quote]

You didn't watch him(KT) when the Spurs used him to beat us?

Uhhh ..... yes, well, there's that, isn't there? Slipped my mind, probably something to do with being too painful to recall.

JohnVancouver · Post #243 » by **JohnVancouver** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:59 pm

Go7enKs wrote:Let's sign KT and Tim Thomas for the minumum and we almost got our beloved SSOL Suns!

It would be nice, but it wouldn't turn back the clock, sadly.

Go7enKs · Post #244 » by **Go7enKs** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:55 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:
Go7enKs wrote:Let's sign KT and Tim Thomas for the minumum and we almost got our beloved SSOL Suns!

It would be nice, but it wouldn't turn back the clock, sadly.

First let's sign them. Then we'll worry about the clock

Suns_RoadRunner · Post #245 » by **Suns_RoadRunner** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:58 pm

KT would be nice. He would give us a much needed post defender and he can also step out and hit that sweet mid-range jumper. But he is getting up there in age though. :-?

likwitdesi · Post #246 » by **likwitdesi** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:34 am

I'd make a move for Shelden Williams. Another cheap big who can provide rebounding and D and probably still has some upside if he can add the midrange J to his arsenal. He would be a modern-day Antonio Davis/Kurt Thomas type of player

-SDU- · Post #247 » by **-SDU-** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:21 am

im still hanging out for chris wilcox to enable amare to play C

targets that could be on our radar...

wilcox
mikki moore
joe smith
ryan hollins
johan petro
walter hermann
marquis daniels (If Jrich goes)
Luther Head
Rodney Carney
Mason
Robert Swift
Tyronne Lue
diogu
brevin knight

these sorts of players are available and unrestricted - i have no doubt we could sign 2 of these guys on this list for the minimum to round the roster out nicely

SportsWorld · Post #248 » by **SportsWorld** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:22 am

Ih8Ginobili is saying that you guys are signing Von Wafer via twitter.

Post #249 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:34 am

Hmmm Von Wafer. He's a nice scorer off the bench, but we already have Barbs. Wouldn't make sense unless Barbosa suddenly turns into a PG.

OR we have plans in place to move JRich for a C (oh god please not Dally).

JohnVancouver · Post #250 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:04 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Hmmm Von Wafer. He's a nice scorer off the bench, but we already have Barbs. Wouldn't make sense unless Barbosa suddenly turns into a PG.

OR we have plans in place to move JRich for a C (oh god please not Dally).

Fishi and I often disagree but we have come together as one in our fear of Sammy landing here .....

Post #251 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:07 am

JohnVancouver wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Hmmm Von Wafer. He's a nice scorer off the bench, but we already have Barbs. Wouldn't make sense unless Barbosa suddenly turns into a PG.

OR we have plans in place to move JRich for a C (oh god please not Dally).

Fishi and I often disagree but we have come together as one in our fear of Sammy landing here .....

Really? I find myself agreeing with you on quite a few things. Maybe I just don't post it.

Go7enKs · Post #252 » by **Go7enKs** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:33 am

IHG is also saying we're trying to move JRich for a center. Guess Von Wafer is a replacement for JRich...mmm...

BobbieL · Post #253 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:44 pm

SportsWorld wrote:Ih8Ginobili is saying that you guys are signing Von Wafer via twitter.

Can this guy play defense?

At least he is 6'5 - so that would would a nice addition if he can defend as they sure need a guard that can stop somebody.

But as was mentioned, that would mean Barbs or JRich is gone. Not loving the idea of JRich for Dalembert. Too bad Sterling wouldn't take JRich for Camby and another piece?

amitg · Post #254 » by **amitg** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:17 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Hmmm Von Wafer. He's a nice scorer off the bench, but we already have Barbs. Wouldn't make sense unless Barbosa suddenly turns into a PG.

OR we have plans in place to move JRich for a C (oh god please not Dally).

Fishi and I often disagree but we have come together as one in our fear of Sammy landing here .....

I understood the fear of getting Sammy for Wallace's contract, since this would have hurt our cap space next year,
but getting him for J-Rich's contract doesn't hurt there, it actually saves us few millions as well (since the contracts are the same length, but J-Rich earns 2M more each year).

Barbosa can give us whatever J-Rich gave, at half the price, and i'm not sure we can say that on Lopez & Sammy (and i do think Lopez can become a decent big men - 10/10, but it might take more time).

And i'll say again that i'll prefer to get KT here...
though slim chances of this happening, since it'll be Kerr admitting another mistake.

Sun Scorched · Post #255 » by **Sun Scorched** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:28 pm

-SDU- wrote:im still hanging out for chris wilcox to enable amare to play C

targets that could be on our radar...

wilcox
mikki moore
joe smith
ryan hollins
johan petro
walter hermann
marquis daniels (If Jrich goes)
Luther Head
Rodney Carney
Mason
Robert Swift
Tyronne Lue
diogu
brevin knight

these sorts of players are available and unrestricted - i have no doubt we could sign 2 of these guys on this list for the minimum to round the roster out nicely

I like Wilcox a lot. Also like Ryan Hollins. Seems stupid to me that Dallas hasn't picked him back up.

GoSunsGo · Post #256 » by **GoSunsGo** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:29 pm

Love how when they introduced Frye, he brought up the WIldcat ties w/ Kerr, Gentry was like "oh great, here we go, that didnt take long" lol.

...im still surprised Chase didnt end up here. Or will he...(muisc que)

DUN DUN DUN

Post #257 » by **KJ7** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:52 pm

BobbieL wrote:

Can this guy play defense?

At least he is 6'5 - so that would would a nice addition if he can defend as they sure need a guard that can stop somebody.

But as was mentioned, that would mean Barbs or JRich is gone. Not loving the idea of JRich for Dalembert. Too bad Sterling wouldn't take JRich for Camby and another piece?

Spoken and heard a few things about him. No-one mentions his D as a positive.

Baffling why we would go for another volume scorer unless it's because we are moving either LB or JRich.

Sun Scorched · Post #258 » by **Sun Scorched** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:59 pm

KJ7 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:

Can this guy play defense?

At least he is 6'5 - so that would would a nice addition if he can defend as they sure need a guard that can stop somebody.

But as was mentioned, that would mean Barbs or JRich is gone. Not loving the idea of JRich for Dalembert. Too bad Sterling wouldn't take JRich for Camby and another piece?

Spoken and heard a few things about him. No-one mentions his D as a positive.

Baffling why we would go for another volume scorer unless it's because we are moving either LB or JRich.

He's not a full-fledged defensive stopper, but he's active and stays in front of his man at all times.

He runs the break and finishes very well. He's not a "volume scorer" per se. I've seen him get the croud riled up several times with some quick transition layups and dagger threes. If we are getting him for the vet. minimum I am completely happy with the pick-up.

Sun Scorched · Post #259 » by **Sun Scorched** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:03 pm

Was Hill's contract the use of part of our MLE or simply an expansion of his previous contract and allowable without the use of our exception?

BVPN · Post #260 » by **BVPN** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:10 am

Sun Scorched wrote:
KJ7 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:

Can this guy play defense?

At least he is 6'5 - so that would would a nice addition if he can defend as they sure need a guard that can stop somebody.

But as was mentioned, that would mean Barbs or JRich is gone. Not loving the idea of JRich for Dalembert. Too bad Sterling wouldn't take JRich for Camby and another piece?

Spoken and heard a few things about him. No-one mentions his D as a positive.

Baffling why we would go for another volume scorer unless it's because we are moving either LB or JRich.

He's not a full-fledged defensive stopper, but he's active and stays in front of his man at all times.

He runs the break and finishes very well. He's not a "volume scorer" per se. I've seen him get the croud riled up several times with some quick transition layups and dagger threes. If we are getting him for the vet. minimum I am completely happy with the pick-up.

I believe Houston was offering him the vet minimum, so I'd be surprised if he signed with us for just that much.