Celtic, Davis Moving Closer? (Article, Boston Herald)

[GuyClinch]

Easily 6" taller? That would mean Baby is 6'4 or 6'5 or Sheed shot up a few inches in his 30's.

My guess is baby is about 6'7, not 6'9 as listed and Sheed is probably 6'10 or so. Hardly 6 inches.

Whatever. Davis is the smallest 6'9" I have ever seen. When we get out of town feeds the announcers laugh every time his height is mentioned. His real height is around 6'5" or 6'6" Rasheed OTOH is a legit long 6'11" guy..

So its about 6 inches. If you count standing reach the amount is probably a few inches more then that.

Pete

[TheOGJabroni]

Easily 6" taller? That would mean Baby is 6'4 or 6'5 or Sheed shot up a few inches in his 30's.

My guess is baby is about 6'7, not 6'9 as listed and Sheed is probably 6'10 or so. Hardly 6 inches.

Whatever. Davis is the smallest 6'9" I have ever seen. When we get out of town feeds the announcers laugh every time his height is mentioned. His real height is around 6'5" or 6'6" Rasheed OTOH is a legit long 6'11" guy..

So its about 6 inches. If you count standing reach the amount is probably a few inches more then that.

Pete

Like I said, there's probably 0 chance he is 6'9" thats probably with shoes and a lift at the combine but i can't see it giving him more than 2 inches extra, 2.5 tops. And is Rasheed really a legit 6'11? I'm not questioning you, rather just a sincere question. I just always assume they are given an inch or so.

Sorry I'm just nitpicking

[Kids Are Alright]

Of course the big stat problem with BBD (who I think is a Powe - like 6-6 player) is the miserable 6.7 RPG playing at the 4 or 5.

Barkley avgd almost 13 RPG, Charles avgd almost 15 in his second season.

Baby is a pick and pop 4 with bid defensive liabilities or a 5 for fronting monsters in the paint with big rebounding liabilities. I think he'll be down the bench on any team.

Still, he's worth Scal's contract IMO. Wallace didn't score until the 4th quarter the last time we played them, he'll disappear in games next year and Baby will (as always) be hungry.

[sully00]

Wallace measured 6'9.75" in 1996

Davis measured 6'7.75" at a workout in PHI prior to the draft in 2007

For Pete 6 must be the new 2. Sure Wallace plays longer than Davis but what is the point in overstating things to the absurd.

Baby's market is dictated by similar players and their contracts. That puts him in the 4-5 mil range. The problem is his playoff run has put him in a position were he has done something most of the undersized PF's haven't gotten the chance to do and that is showcase their abilities as a starter in the playoffs and perform. While Davis has his flaws but he is a scorer at the center position and that is pretty rare.

I think looking at him as a starter is a mistake but as back up big man on a contender he has value. To gloat that Davis doesn't have any offers and nobody wants him is pretty ignorant, David Lee, Ramon Sessions, Jamario Moon, don't have any offers either. There has only been 3 offer sheets signed this offseason.

[ParticleMan]

yeah not much new here.

BBD is ending up in a bad position. There's almost nobody left who wants to sign him for anything close to the MLE. Dallas maybe but Cuban has professed a dislike for Baby. Detroit won't sign him to their capspace since the C's would easily match.

I'm not sure how the stalemate will be broken. Maybe the C's and BBD will just agree on a reasonable deal and call it a day. I'd say 4 yr, 16 mil would be fair.

Who are you his agent?

I think 3.2 to start with yearly raises, and a team option for year three.

haha. i think his agent would push for a shorter deal, not longer. it's in our interest to tie him up at low $ for 4 or 5 years. if we do a 4 year deal starting at 3.2 mil, that's already almost $15mil. So yeah, i'd say that's about right. we offer just a bit more than DET can, and lock him for as long as we can.

and this idea that BBD is only 6-6 is crazy. that's Leon, not Baby. Big Baby is 6-8, according to his measurement. it's just that he has short arms and no hops. plus he looks shorter cuz he's kinda fat

[17banners]

I'm not an expert captologist by any means, and don't even know if this would work, but would it be possible for the Celts to offer Phoenix a S&T deal, with Baby and Barbosa as the centerpieces? I'd much rather see someone like that (Barbosa) coming off the bench than an undersized 4 signed semi long-term. Just my $0.02.

[sully00]

It is possible, complicated but possible. But the reason PHX would want to move Barbossa is money, he is a fine player. They also just signed Channing Frye to a two year deal.

[SichtingLives]

Easily 6" taller? That would mean Baby is 6'4 or 6'5 or Sheed shot up a few inches in his 30's.

My guess is baby is about 6'7, not 6'9 as listed and Sheed is probably 6'10 or so. Hardly 6 inches.

Whatever. Davis is the smallest 6'9" I have ever seen. When we get out of town feeds the announcers laugh every time his height is mentioned. His real height is around 6'5" or 6'6" Rasheed OTOH is a legit long 6'11" guy..

So its about 6 inches. If you count standing reach the amount is probably a few inches more then that.

Pete

So Leon Powe is 6'4" or so and Paul Pierce is 6'3"ish??

Seen up close, multiple times, in person, Glen Davis has an inch on Leon, and a few on Pierce. So I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

Oh, and there's no "long" 6'11", there's just 6"11". Any longer would be 7 feet. Consult with a measuring tape for proof of that.

[GuyClinch]

Oh, and there's no "long" 6'11", there's just 6"11". Any longer would be 7 feet. Consult with a measuring tape for proof of that.

standing reach..<g> It's more important then height. So Sheed is two inches taller then BBD. I stand corrected. He towers over him in actual play, IMHO. Bottom line is there will be alot less minutes for BBD with both Sheed and KG here.

If your his agent you want to get him on a team with a decent opportunity. BBD could make some money if he got major minutes.

[SeizeCoup]

Baby is all about the money. As a second rounder he signed the shorter contract hoping for a big payday earlier. But he didn't put in the work. I'd offer 3 years around 3 million per.

[GuyClinch]

^^ Trade for Outlaw. BBD is largely duplicated by Scal. Yes BBD MIGHT be slightly better then Scal - but we have Scal under contract.

[humblebum]

Davis is clearly better than Scal.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Davis is clearly better than Scal.

Well duh!

[humblebum]

^^ Trade for Outlaw. BBD is largely duplicated by Scal. Yes BBD MIGHT be slightly better then Scal - but we have Scal under contract.

Apparently not to everyone...

[DorfonCeltics]

Just to help with the clarification on height vs. standing reach. While Sheed might only be 2 inches taller than Baby, I'd be willing to bet my Celtics season tickets that Sheed's standing reach is 5-6 inches taller than Baby's. That makes Sheed a much more effective player down low and gives him a much better chance at rebounding inside.

[sully00]

Baby is all about the money. As a second rounder he signed the shorter contract hoping for a big payday earlier. But he didn't put in the work. I'd offer 3 years around 3 million per.

You have no idea what you are talking about. This is a business everyone is about the money. Baby was smart, look at the choices he is facing and look at the choices Leon is facing. Leon got totally screwed by that 3rd year, no one should ever take that again he didn't even get any extra money.