ImageImage

Marvin Williams Free Agency Thread

Moderators: dms269, HMFFL, Jamaaliver

killbuckner
RealGM
Posts: 13,088
And1: 0
Joined: May 27, 2003

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#161 » by killbuckner » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:37 pm

When deals are announced its always going to be different based on whether the team or the agent announce it. The Agent usually announces it with all incentives included because they want people to think they did the best job possible. The team will usually announce it without incentives included because it makes them look the best. I'm guessing that the first year is entirely guaranteed and future years there will be some incentives put in which is where the contract disparity will come in.
td00
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,858
And1: 70
Joined: Aug 23, 2005
Location: CATLANTA

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#162 » by td00 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:57 pm

I read 37.5 guaranteed, with incentives to push to $40M. I think he got Marvin at a liveable number than being strapped. I expected Marvin to ask for Smoove-like numbers.

I am impressed with Sund, who has put together some cap friendly numbers. The roster is improving under his guidance and I look for one more 'value' addition to the roster.
joeshmoe
Sophomore
Posts: 226
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 15, 2008

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#163 » by joeshmoe » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:05 pm

Great summer! I was worried after the Crawford signing that we would not sign Bibby. Then we signed Bibby for a great number. And I never thought we would resign Bibby, Pachulia, and Williams. I am thrilled.
parson
RealGM
Posts: 10,316
And1: 469
Joined: May 02, 2001

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#164 » by parson » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:25 pm

So, Sund probably offered the same base that he'd originally offered but gave incentives that can reach to what Marvelous wanted. Can't argue with that.

Sund may not be a visionary but he's apparently a true professional GM.
My mother told me, she said, "Elwood, to make it in this world you either have to be oh, so clever or oh, so pleasant." Well, for years I was clever; I recommend pleasant.
Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart, in the film "Harvey")
dpaulh
Sophomore
Posts: 147
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 10, 2009

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#165 » by dpaulh » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:53 pm

Great news for the Hawks!!
Now if we could sign Joe Smith, Hunter(min), and Siler(min) we would truly be an improved team. We would be 10 deep with projects in Morris, Hunter, and Siler. If just one of those 3 could play useful minutes then I believe we could go out and win 50 games.
User avatar
Hawks
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,950
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 20, 2004
Location: USA

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#166 » by Hawks » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:01 pm

ACE_reppin_ATL wrote:
Hawks wrote:5 years/$40 Million

Where's your source? Because, when they announced on the news (TV) last night, the report was that he signed a 5yr deal in the $30Ms...So don't speculate/assume until an official report is posted.



Who is speculating? It is the rumor deal being posted around on AJC,Yahoo,weeks back by another site. It is the market value. I am posting the info that is going around. There is no speculating going on. Whoever is throwing around $30 million over 5 years has prob got that number out of thin air. Who is the news guy that spoke of the $30 mil over 5 years?
User avatar
NWO4Life
Rookie
Posts: 1,079
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 03, 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#167 » by NWO4Life » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:11 pm

I am expecting Marvin to have his break out season this year! I am so happy we have him resigned.

Prediction: By the end of next season Marvin will have meant more to this club that Josh.
VOTE Rod Strickland into the H.O.F.!!!
User avatar
LL Cool Scott
Starter
Posts: 2,454
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 11, 2006

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#168 » by LL Cool Scott » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:12 pm

Sund + crap economy = team still intact

Sweet.
HoopsGuru25
General Manager
Posts: 9,321
And1: 3
Joined: Apr 18, 2006

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#169 » by HoopsGuru25 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:20 pm

Marvin is a good guy....it appears he's pretty satisfied where he's at in life right now(both location wise and financially).
User avatar
KM44
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,942
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 17, 2007

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#170 » by KM44 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:40 pm

Boooooo. Nocioni for Marvin anyone?
Nicky Nix Nook wrote:In two years:

Thompson > Aldridge
User avatar
evildallas
General Manager
Posts: 9,412
And1: 1
Joined: Aug 11, 2005
Location: in the land of weak ownership
Contact:

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#171 » by evildallas » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:12 pm

^^^^ Uh, no
Going to donkey punch a leprechaun!
Marc
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,267
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 26, 2009

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#172 » by Marc » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:36 pm

LL Cool Scott wrote:Sund + crap economy = team still intact

Sweet.


+ Crawford!
azuresou1
Head Coach
Posts: 7,444
And1: 1,095
Joined: Jun 15, 2009
   

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#173 » by azuresou1 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:35 am

KM44 wrote:Boooooo. Nocioni for Marvin anyone?


Nocioni has one of the worst contracts in the league. We'd take him ONLY if the deal went something like:

Marvin Williams
Jamal Crawford
Randolph Morris

for

Kevin Martin
Andres Nocioni
Jason Thompson
2010 1st

In order to trade him you'd need to get rid of major talent or get an equally terrible contract. You're certainly not getting him for Marvin Williams.
killbuckner
RealGM
Posts: 13,088
And1: 0
Joined: May 27, 2003

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#174 » by killbuckner » Mon Aug 3, 2009 1:41 pm

evidently the story jumped the gun a bit since nothing has been announced.
raleigh
Head Coach
Posts: 6,293
And1: 603
Joined: Oct 23, 2004

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#175 » by raleigh » Mon Aug 3, 2009 2:22 pm

They're clearly waiting on Sekou to finish his vacation. Clearly.
User avatar
Hawks
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,950
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 20, 2004
Location: USA

Re: "Williams Returning To Atlanta" 

Post#176 » by Hawks » Mon Aug 3, 2009 9:24 pm

Sekou just said the deal will be completed this week.

sekousmith01 Sources: Hawks will finally get deal done with Marvin Williams this week.

http://twitter.com/sekousmith01
User avatar
HMFFL
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 53,964
And1: 10,349
Joined: Mar 10, 2004

Re: Marvin Williams Free Agency Thread 

Post#177 » by HMFFL » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:01 pm

Hawks forward Marvin Williams is expected to sign a five-year, $37.5 million contract as early as Thursday afternoon, with an official announcement to be made early next week.
With incentives, Williams' total salary could be as high as $43 million. He averaged 13.9 points and 6.3 rebounds last season. "The one thing you hardly ever see in professional sports is that loyalty and teams staying together," he said. "When you do see it, like in San Antonio or Detroit...you see championships." http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-hawks ... orts_82038
User avatar
Hawks
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,950
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 20, 2004
Location: USA

Re: Marvin Williams Free Agency Thread 

Post#178 » by Hawks » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:51 pm

Great to hear the is finally going to be completed. The report we heard weeks back about it being $37,5 million was actually correct. They just jump the gun a little bit saying he sign. Regardless a very fair deal for both sides.
raleigh
Head Coach
Posts: 6,293
And1: 603
Joined: Oct 23, 2004

Re: Marvin Williams Free Agency Thread 

Post#179 » by raleigh » Fri Aug 7, 2009 2:30 am

Sekou's back. Time to get ink on paper.

Return to Atlanta Hawks