Series Thread: Yankees @ Jays| Sept 3-6

Post #1 » by **LittleOzzy** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 9:13 pm

Someone had to get a game thread going

There goes my winning record.

zilby · Post #2 » by **zilby** » Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:56 pm

haha did you make that?

and why did you unsticky the record thread?

s e n s i · Post #3 » by **s e n s i** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:37 am

This is OT and random, but I thought it was kinda neat picking up my younger brother from his baseball practice and seeing Rob and Rich Butler as his coaches. Neither had a noteworthy MLB career, just thought it was kinda cool though.

Post #4 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 9:03 am

So, I attended this game with a friend and it was... well, let's just say that the rowdy activity between the Ryerson and Humber frosh groups was a lot more entertaining than the game.

The hitters made a game of it, I must say. Wells was as staggeringly ineffectual as is customary and Scutaro had a quiet game (though he did get a sac fly and he got lucky on an A-Rod error). We blew a couple of opportunities and both Hill and Lind were quiet (though Hill had a big RBI rip and Lind walked twice). Overbay was crap tonight, but I can give him a pass for that because he's hitting a lot better than he did last year, kinda like his first season with us, at least power-wise.

I'm not at all surprised that our passive and unemotional pitching staff stood by and let New York's starter hit our guys twice without retaliation, and none still even after one of their relievers did it too. That was annoying, but expected.

League (somewhat surprisingly) and Camp were both effective; Frasor blowing it was surprising.

Romero lasted a third of an inning less than my pre-game prediction to my buddy, going 4.1 IP instead of the 4.2 IP I predicted. That Snider bobble was brutal, and he and Frasor were basically why we lost this game. I guess Jason can only be so lucky, right? It's funny, because he'd been allowing only 0.2 HR/9 up until then, and looking really awesome in general. Everyone has an off night, I guess.

It was nice to see us put up some runs, but disappointing that we stopped at 5. Before this game, we'd gone from a 5 R/G team (e.g. above average in the AL) down to 4.77, which is just below league average (4.84).

Surprisingly, it's not HR production that's killing us; for all the moaning (some/much done by myself), the Jays are actually 5th in the AL with 160 HR, which is +6 over league average.

What's worth noting is that we are below average in productive outs (so, advancing runners, successful sac plays, driving a run in with the 2nd out of the inning), and we're bottom third of the league in terms of the percentage of our baserunners who score at 14%. We also do poorly in scoring runners in high-leverage situations, so we choke a lot with RISP and 2 outs, but also with 0 and 1 outs.

Through September 2nd, we were SECOND LAST in the AL for team BA/RISP, at .256 (league averagea is .268). We're also 8 points under league average BA/BIP. Only Oakland has a lower BA/RISP (at .238) than we do, which is god-awful. Yes, that's right; even though Baltimore scores fewer runs per game than we do, they get hits with RISP a lot more regularly (in fact, they're like 16 points above league average in BA/RISP).

That's depressing; it simply re-states the obvious, but we are a TERRIBLE hitting team when runners get into scoring position, comparatively speaking.

Sidenote: team FIP is below league average, which is cool. Not such a hot deal for our defense, but we knew that as soon as Rolen left, Encarnacion (and now Bautista) would make trouble for us, and Scoot has been terrible of late. Plus, Snider isn't really good at much of anything yet.

Pitching-wise, we're more vulnerable to the long ball than average when the ball gets put in the air, but our walks are about average, we strike more guys out than average and our GB% is higher than average. AND we're running a boatload of young, inexperienced pitchers and lost three of our best pitchers from the season before. I count it as a big, screaming success that we're a slightly above-average pitching staff this year.

What does it say about our offense that the best comparison for us is the Dodgers, though? They are an almost exactly average team on offense in the National League (save for the fact that they're hitting about .312 BA/BIP and consequently producing above-average R/G)?

*grumble*

I'm ranting, but it's appropriate; I know we only left 9 guys on base this game and we scored 5 runs, but we blew choice opportunities on a regular basis this game, and this was a winnable game until the top of the 9th. Naturally, Millar and Wells did nothing with RISP in the bottom of the 9th, but by then it didn't matter.

Ugh. This was a really disappointing game.

zilby · Post #5 » by **zilby** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:09 pm

that was a disappointing game.

it sucked that Frasor blew it in the 9th, but i guess everyone has an off day.

zilby · Post #6 » by **zilby** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:20 pm

and if Ozzy wins the next 2 he will take over the lead ahead of ChocolateSensi's 18-15 record.

s e n s i · Post #7 » by **s e n s i** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 4:15 pm

Post #8 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 11:26 pm

Runs scored in the first! Run support for Doc, YAY!!!

youngLion · Post #9 » by **youngLion** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 11:34 pm

Nice to see some early support for Doc. Hopefully he can turn things around tonight.

On another note, is anyone else annoyed that this team continues to start Johhny Mac at 3rd? Sure it's fun to watch him work, but he's just not a long term answer there. Encarnation probably isn't either, but with his power there's at least a chance that he could be that guy.... for that reason alone he should be getting these innings.

zilby · Post #10 » by **zilby** » Fri Sep 4, 2009 11:37 pm

i dunno because encarnacion is still on the DL and i have no idea when he will return

Post #11 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:06 am

Mac is at least a good defender, and is actually hitting better than Bautista. We don't have a choice with Encarnacion (whose defensive inadequacies are WELL-documented...) still injured.

Good on the Jays for adding a third run; keep it up, boys!

Post #12 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:36 am

C'mon, cash in Barajas...

Throwback24 · Post #13 » by **Throwback24** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:37 am

The Blue Jays need to lay a pounding on the pitcher if this ish continues.

Post #14 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:38 am

Johnny Mac gets himself on base. Way to take one for the team, Mac! C'mon, Scutaro...

Post #15 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:45 am

Alright, so Scutaro drew the walk. Does he get an RBI for that?

Post #16 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:46 am

Throwback24 wrote:The Blue Jays need to lay a pounding on the pitcher if this ish continues.

We got hit three times on Thursday and didn't even throw inside, let alone pound the pitchers for showing weak control; don't hold your breath.

Post #17 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 12:57 am

And there goes the no-no. Halladay's control was kind of weak the last 1.2 IP, but he's still doing very well.

Post #18 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 1:05 am

Let's hope Halladay can give us another inning or even two, and then we can move into the ninth, shut it down and take the win with a smile.

Post #19 » by **tsherkin** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 1:16 am

7 beautiful IP from Doc so far. He's at 94 pitches; I don't know if they'll bring him out for one more or shut him down now. He's cruising at the moment, so I think he's got another inning in him.

s e n s i · Post #20 » by **s e n s i** » Sat Sep 5, 2009 1:30 am

How nice is it to see Doc with a vintage outing? It's been a while, but everything seems normal when he has games like this.