EuroBasket 2009 Thread

jowy · Post #241 » by **jowy** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:58 pm

IMO he is not a Top-5 european point guard yet, because he has to improve a lot in certain aspects of the game such as shooting or controlling the tempo of the game better but his basketball IQ, his skill set and natural instincts makes him already better than most of european point guards.

Seriously, i think this year is going to be awesome playing next to athletic big guys who can run the floor pretty well such as Vázquez, N´Dong or Morris and streaky shooters who plays very good off the ball such as Navarro, Basile or Lakovic.

penzias · Post #242 » by **penzias** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:14 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:TELOS!!! 74-76 IN OVERTIME IN ONE OF THE GREATEST EUROBASKET MATCHES EVER!!! TAKING ON SPAIN IN THE SEMIS!

This is ironic i hope.
The game was poorly played overall and specially the OT was full of silly mistakes and terrible decisions.

Craig_Weeks · Post #243 » by **Craig_Weeks** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:28 pm

Horrible referee decision on that 24-second violation by Greece in which Spanoulis then hits a 3-pointer from the extra 4 seconds the refs gave them

AdamTheGreek · Post #244 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:50 pm

Welcome to the Roko Ukic show. Kid is sick as Croatia is upsetting Slovenia at the half 39-47. LOL at Nacbhar and Popovic picking up technicals.

I Feel Devotion · Post #245 » by **I Feel Devotion** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:34 pm

Craig_Weeks wrote:Horrible referee decision on that 24-second violation by Greece in which Spanoulis then hits a 3-pointer from the extra 4 seconds the refs gave them

According to the shot clock Perperoglou's shot was good.

Rasho Brezec · Post #246 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:45 pm

The other 8 guys who were playing should pay to have a monument built for Erazem Lorbek.

I Feel Devotion · Post #247 » by **I Feel Devotion** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:49 pm

Slovenia finally makes the semifinal of EuroBasket for the first time ever.

AdamTheGreek · Post #248 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:57 pm

Lorbek was a **** god.
Lakovic and Slokar came up clutch too, but it was all Erazem.

Popovic probably feels terrible for changing the game before halftime.

BadWolf · Post #249 » by **BadWolf** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:27 pm

Any other team having so much problems with injuries? Or any?

DeMente · Post #250 » by **DeMente** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:03 pm

I Feel Devotion wrote:If Koufos would have stayed healthy and if Greece's backup point guard Papamakarios would have not got injured during the training then Greece should have won the gold.

...

But considering they lost Koufos and their backup point guard, they accomplished a lot making the semifinal.

This is so wrong on so many levels. Do you realize it looks, smells, and sounds like a lame excuse? First of all, games are still to be played and Greece could win it all. Second, every team has to make do with the players they brougth, and the capability to overcame injuries is part of what defines a true champion. Third, you're talking 9th, 8th best players on the team at best.

Above all, you're rationalizing the (quite) probable Greek loss without considering other teams like Slovenia have lost two way better players (Smodis and Dragic) and are forced, too, to play three games in three days. What should they win in an ideal world, then? Platinum?

I Feel Devotion · Post #251 » by **I Feel Devotion** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:39 pm

DeMente wrote:
I Feel Devotion wrote:If Koufos would have stayed healthy and if Greece's backup point guard Papamakarios would have not got injured during the training then Greece should have won the gold.

...

But considering they lost Koufos and their backup point guard, they accomplished a lot making the semifinal.

This is so wrong on so many levels. Do you realize it looks, smells, and sounds like a lame excuse? First of all, games are still to be played and Greece could win it all. Second, every team has to make do with the players they brougth, and the capability to overcame injuries is part of what defines a true champion. Third, you're talking 9th, 8th best players on the team at best.

Above all, you're rationalizing the (quite) probable Greek loss without considering other teams like Slovenia have lost two way better players (Smodis and Dragic) and are forced, too, to play three games in three days. What should they win in an ideal world, then? Platinum?

The Greek team as it is right now would beat Slovenia. The problem is beating Spain.

AdamTheGreek · Post #252 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:10 am

One hell of a EuroBasket Day 11, Saturday is going to be amazing:
http://mason360.com/20090919579/News/Sp ... ay-11.html

DeMente · Post #253 » by **DeMente** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:31 am

I Feel Devotion wrote:The Greek team as it is right now would beat Slovenia. The problem is beating Spain.

Beating Spain would be hard under any circumstances. Greece hasn't won a game against, or even finished a tournament above Spain for quite some years. And that was with much better players than Papamakarios on the roster. So arguing they should win gold if not for injuries is nothing more than a red herring.

Fact is, Greece doesn't have, or could have, a better team than Spain

Fact is, Greece isn't head and shoulders over Turkey.

Fact is, Slovenia could beat Greece, specially if Smodis and Dragic are available. And this last point has a small chance of be proven if both fall short in semifinals.

trbank · Post #254 » by **trbank** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:43 am

Hidayet Türkoğlu sabotaged the Turkish team. There is no other explanation of his shot selection ,turnovers and defense.

sca · Post #255 » by **sca** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:29 am

trbank wrote:Hidayet Türkoğlu sabotaged the Turkish team. There is no other explanation of his shot selection ,turnovers and defense.

lol. fatigue sabotaged us.

gofret · Post #256 » by **gofret** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:46 am

ScaLoPhobiA wrote:
trbank wrote:Hidayet Türkoğlu sabotaged the Turkish team. There is no other explanation of his shot selection ,turnovers and defense.

lol. fatigue sabotaged us.

no he did it for whole tournament..

Batu7 · Post #257 » by **Batu7** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:01 pm

Wow, losing a 19 point lead and getting beaten by 12 points. Great job. The technical on Hedo changed the game.

jolbe_ · Post #258 » by **jolbe_** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:58 pm

Have you seen a "sportmanship" of Ukič?
He almost killed Nachbar...
What a crazy son of a....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe282VwfmxI

Post #259 » by **suckfish** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:11 pm

jolbe_ wrote:Have you seen a "sportmanship" of Ukič?
He almost killed Nachbar...
What a crazy son of a....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe282VwfmxI

Not at all IMO. He was running full speed so he could foul before time expired. Obviously he clashed with Boki very hard, but he had to in order to run at him at full speed to stop the clock.

Good attempt to save the game by Roko. Nothing wrong with it.

jolbe_ · Post #260 » by **jolbe_** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:13 pm

suckfish wrote:
jolbe_ wrote:Have you seen a "sportmanship" of Ukič?
He almost killed Nachbar...
What a crazy son of a....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe282VwfmxI

Not at all IMO. He was running full speed so he could foul before time expired. Obviously he clashed with Boki very hard, but he had to in order to stop the clock.

Good attempt to save the game by Roko. Nothing wrong with it.

One least thing he could do would be to help him stand up or apologize....
Slovenian teams already has teh biggest injury problems of all, and than a new injury almost happens..