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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#501 » by roc » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:42 pm

MJallday59 wrote:The Memphis Grizzlies and Sacramento Kings have agreed to the following:

Memphis will send:

Mehmet Okur - $9,000,000

***Under the cap - Deal works.

Sac-town sends:

Jared Jeffries - 6,466,600
Amir Johnson - 3,941,667
Demar Derozan - 2,282,640

Total = 12690907

This deal gets us even younger...We lose Okur but get a young SG in Derozan.

Trade approved - Please update rosters
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#502 » by bryant08 » Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:00 pm

Raptors waive the unguaranteed deals of James White and Marcus Williams. The Raptors also sign Tim Thomas and Bobby Jackson to 1 year, unguaranteed, league minimum deals.
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Post#503 » by roc » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:17 pm

bryant08 wrote:The Raptors also sign Tim Thomas and Bobby Jackson to 1 year, unguaranteed, league minimum deals.

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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#504 » by vege » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:45 pm

LAC, Portland and SAS have a blockbuster to announce

LAC Out: Sebastian Telfair and a TPE
LAC In: Chris Duhon, Will Bynum, Rights to Petteri Koponen Rights to Joel Freeland, Miami 2011 1st round pick and Portland 2011 1st round pick.

Outgoing Salary: $2,500,000
Incoming Salary: $6,031,800 + $825,497

LAC is under the cap enough to absorb the salary difference

Portland Out: Joel Przybilla, Chris Duhon, Brandon Roy, 2011 1st round pick Rights to Petteri Koponen and rights to Joel Freeland
Portland In: Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Sebastian Telfair

Outgoing Salary: $6,857,725 + $6,031,800 + $3,910,816 *1.25 + 100,000 = 21,100,426
Incoming Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $2,500,000 = 21,784,394

Portland have enough cap space to make the numbers work.

SAS Out: Will Bynum, Joe Johnson, Al Horford and Miami 2011 1st round pick
SAS In: Joel Przybilla and Brandon Roy

Outgoing Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $825,497 ~21 million
Incoming Salary: $6,857,725 + Roy's PPP salary (should be ~15 million) ~22 million

LAC do it to get 2 1st round picks and 3 young players we really like. We give up cap space and Telfair and to be honest we think Bynum is much better than Telfair.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#505 » by BlackIce » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:18 pm

vege wrote:LAC, Portland and SAS have a blockbuster to announce

LAC Out: Sebastian Telfair and a TPE
LAC In: Chris Duhon, Will Bynum, Rights to Petteri Koponen Rights to Joel Freeland, Miami 2011 1st round pick and Portland 2011 1st round pick.

Outgoing Salary: $2,500,000
Incoming Salary: $6,031,800 + $825,497

LAC is under the cap enough to absorb the salary difference

Portland Out: Joel Przybilla, Chris Duhon, Brandon Roy, 2011 1st round pick Rights to Petteri Koponen and rights to Joel Freeland
Portland In: Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Sebastian Telfair

Outgoing Salary: $6,857,725 + $6,031,800 + $3,910,816 *1.25 + 100,000 = 21,100,426
Incoming Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $2,500,000 = 21,784,394

Portland have enough cap space to make the numbers work.

SAS Out: Will Bynum, Joe Johnson, Al Horford and Miami 2011 1st round pick
SAS In: Joel Przybilla and Brandon Roy

Outgoing Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $825,497 ~21 million
Incoming Salary: $6,857,725 + Roy's PPP salary (should be ~15 million) ~22 million

LAC do it to get 2 1st round picks and 3 young players we really like. We give up cap space and Telfair and to be honest we think Bynum is much better than Telfair.

SAS confirms. It was a ***** dealing with this PPP thing but the deal works, like I said b4 I like Roy and don't mind losing two great assets in JJ and Horford.
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Post#506 » by dunkonu21 » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:46 pm

Sacramento and Milwaukee have agreed to a deal:

Stephen Graham .8884881
Luther head .855189

for

Carlos Delfino 3.5 million


I'm going to cut those two players...Sac-Town is under the cap...this helps me deal Delfino's large contract and helps me get to 16 total players.
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Post#507 » by Mascot » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:48 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:Sacramento and Milwaukee have agreed to a deal:

Stephen Graham .8884881
Luther head .855189

for

Carlos Delfino 3.5 million


I'm going to cut those two players...Sac-Town is under the cap...this helps me deal Delfino's large contract and helps me get to 16 total players.




Sacramento accepts, we are under the cap so the deal works financially, also this gives us the backup SF that we desperately need.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#508 » by dunkonu21 » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:49 pm

I'll release all three of those players, this cuts Delfino's three year deal.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#509 » by roc » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:28 am

dunkonu21 wrote:Sacramento and Milwaukee have agreed to a deal:

Stephen Graham .8884881
Luther head .855189

for

Carlos Delfino 3.5 million


I'm going to cut those two players...Sac-Town is under the cap...this helps me deal Delfino's large contract and helps me get to 16 total players.

Not approved.

You already have 16 players and should only have 15. You need to waive a player ASAP.

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If you are making a trade where you will go over the limit of 15 then you have to make cuts beforehand not afterward so as to end up with no more than 15 as a result of a trade.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#510 » by babyjax13 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:45 am

Charlotte and New Orleans have agreed to a deal.

Hornets send/Bobcats receive:
Antonio Daniels $6,600,000
Julian Wright $2,000,040
Chris Quinn $1,050,387
Total: $9,650,427

Bobcats send/Hornets receive:
Morris Peterson $5,992,240
Gerald Henderson $1,957,080
x 1.25 = $9,936,650

This might be the one trade that I regret at the end of the game, but I do it for two reasons.

1) It clears enough cap space to offer a max contract, plus a contract of about $3,000,000 or so after my draft picks are signed.

2) It gives me more trading flexibility. I think I can use Wright to clear Kapono's contract off the books, and then I can start looking at trading expirings for some complimentary players.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#511 » by skorff26 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:12 am

babyjax13 wrote:Charlotte and New Orleans have agreed to a deal.

Hornets send/Bobcats receive:
Antonio Daniels $6,600,000
Julian Wright $2,000,040
Chris Quinn $1,050,387
Total: $9,650,427

Bobcats send/Hornets receive:
Morris Peterson $5,992,240
Gerald Henderson $1,957,080
x 1.25 = $9,936,650

This might be the one trade that I regret at the end of the game, but I do it for two reasons.

1) It clears enough cap space to offer a max contract, plus a contract of about $3,000,000 or so after my draft picks are signed.

2) It gives me more trading flexibility. I think I can use Wright to clear Kapono's contract off the books, and then I can start looking at trading expirings for some complimentary players.

New Orleans accepts, we hate MoPete's contract but I'm a huge fan of Henderson. The extra salary for 2010 is worth it IMO to get a player of his quality.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#512 » by roc » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:13 am

vege wrote:LAC, Portland and SAS have a blockbuster to announce

LAC Out: Sebastian Telfair and a TPE
LAC In: Chris Duhon, Will Bynum, Rights to Petteri Koponen Rights to Joel Freeland, Miami 2011 1st round pick and Portland 2011 1st round pick.

Outgoing Salary: $2,500,000
Incoming Salary: $6,031,800 + $825,497

LAC is under the cap enough to absorb the salary difference

Portland Out: Joel Przybilla, Chris Duhon, Brandon Roy, 2011 1st round pick Rights to Petteri Koponen and rights to Joel Freeland
Portland In: Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Sebastian Telfair

Outgoing Salary: $6,857,725 + $6,031,800 + $3,910,816 *1.25 + 100,000 = 21,100,426
Incoming Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $2,500,000 = 21,784,394

Portland have enough cap space to make the numbers work.

SAS Out: Will Bynum, Joe Johnson, Al Horford and Miami 2011 1st round pick
SAS In: Joel Przybilla and Brandon Roy

Outgoing Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $825,497 ~21 million
Incoming Salary: $6,857,725 + Roy's PPP salary (should be ~15 million) ~22 million

LAC do it to get 2 1st round picks and 3 young players we really like. We give up cap space and Telfair and to be honest we think Bynum is much better than Telfair.

You can't packaga a TPE with any player(s)

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Why even bother listing a TPE anyway since it should not be needed as you are far enough under the cap anyway?
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#513 » by vege » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:32 pm

I am generating a TPE not trading one =.= like i explained i am under the cap. But still i am not 100% if the numbers are right so i would appreciate a feedback on it.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#514 » by CellarDoor » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:05 pm

vege wrote:I am generating a TPE not trading one =.= like i explained i am under the cap. But still i am not 100% if the numbers are right so i would appreciate a feedback on it.


I'm fairly certain a TPE is only generated when someone sends out a ton without getting much back because they're under the cap (think Marcus Camby TE)

That isn't the case here. You send out very little and get a lot back and the other two teams get pretty much even salary back.

The trade works, but there's no TPE used or generated to my knowledge.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#515 » by vege » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:50 pm

CellarDoor wrote:
vege wrote:I am generating a TPE not trading one =.= like i explained i am under the cap. But still i am not 100% if the numbers are right so i would appreciate a feedback on it.


I'm fairly certain a TPE is only generated when someone sends out a ton without getting much back because they're under the cap (think Marcus Camby TE)

That isn't the case here. You send out very little and get a lot back and the other two teams get pretty much even salary back.

The trade works, but there's no TPE used or generated to my knowledge.


Alright that's what i wanted to know. Thanks. I thought i TPE would be created with the difference of my outgoing salary and incoming salary.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#516 » by SamBone » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:00 pm

vege wrote:LAC, Portland and SAS have a blockbuster to announce

LAC Out: Sebastian Telfair and a TPE
LAC In: Chris Duhon, Will Bynum, Rights to Petteri Koponen Rights to Joel Freeland, Miami 2011 1st round pick and Portland 2011 1st round pick.

Outgoing Salary: $2,500,000
Incoming Salary: $6,031,800 + $825,497

LAC is under the cap enough to absorb the salary difference

Portland Out: Joel Przybilla, Chris Duhon, Brandon Roy, 2011 1st round pick Rights to Petteri Koponen and rights to Joel Freeland
Portland In: Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Sebastian Telfair

Outgoing Salary: $6,857,725 + $6,031,800 + $3,910,816 *1.25 + 100,000 = 21,100,426
Incoming Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $2,500,000 = 21,784,394

Portland have enough cap space to make the numbers work.

SAS Out: Will Bynum, Joe Johnson, Al Horford and Miami 2011 1st round pick
SAS In: Joel Przybilla and Brandon Roy

Outgoing Salary: $14,976,754 + $4,307,640 + $825,497 ~21 million
Incoming Salary: $6,857,725 + Roy's PPP salary (should be ~15 million) ~22 million

LAC do it to get 2 1st round picks and 3 young players we really like. We give up cap space and Telfair and to be honest we think Bynum is much better than Telfair.


with someone with better understanding of the numbers explain if they are being used correctly. not sure what salary numbers are used for Roy (exact number) I though it was the average salary over the life of the contract. Is the outgoing money have the average contract, or his actual 2009 salary? and doesn't the trade need to work both ways from the Portland side?
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#517 » by roc » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:35 pm

vege wrote:
CellarDoor wrote:
vege wrote:I am generating a TPE not trading one =.= like i explained i am under the cap. But still i am not 100% if the numbers are right so i would appreciate a feedback on it.


I'm fairly certain a TPE is only generated when someone sends out a ton without getting much back because they're under the cap (think Marcus Camby TE)

That isn't the case here. You send out very little and get a lot back and the other two teams get pretty much even salary back.

The trade works, but there's no TPE used or generated to my knowledge.


Alright that's what i wanted to know. Thanks. I thought i TPE would be created with the difference of my outgoing salary and incoming salary.

CD is correct you have to get back less salary than you send out.
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Post#518 » by roc » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:38 pm

SamBone wrote:with someone with better understanding of the numbers explain if they are being used correctly. not sure what salary numbers are used for Roy (exact number) I though it was the average salary over the life of the contract. Is the outgoing money have the average contract, or his actual 2009 salary? and doesn't the trade need to work both ways from the Portland side?

PPP counts as the actual salary for the outgoing team and the average of all years salaries for the incoming team.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 - Trades & Transactions Thread 

Post#519 » by roc » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:39 pm

There has been a few veto requests for the PDX/SAS/LAC 3 way

I am going to wait a bit longer before making a decision.
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Post#520 » by roc » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:41 pm

TO ALL GMS

You can start sending in extension offers come midnight EST
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