Keep Doubting the Man...

[vincecarter4pres]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/b ... 1609.story

Some fans and media types considered him a throw-in to the blockbuster June trade that sent Vince Carter from New Jersey to Orlando. But Anderson now is swishing 3-pointer after 3-pointer and contending to be the Magic's starting power forward on opening night.

And he's leaving Van Gundy with a difficult choice. Van Gundy can start bruiser Brandon Bass at power forward during Rashard Lewis' 10-game suspension to begin the season. Or the coach can start Anderson, who, like Lewis, stretches opposing defenses because of his shooting accuracy from long range.

"He's always been an underdog," Armstead said. "I think when you look at the structure of the NBA and college basketball, there's a lot of emphasis on flash and spectacular plays. And Ryan is just efficient and deadly."

Discuss...

[NetsForce]

First of all... Check your e-mail I ended up randomizing the draft order contrary to what I said, please don't hate me (my one friend wants to stick a knife in my eye since he's drafting 16th)...

Second of all... Ryan Anderson was the price for moving Vince Carter's contract. I never though Carter's contract was that bad but the perception I get is that NBA GM's though it was...

Sure I would still like to have Anderson. But In all honesty this upcoming draft is filled with a ton of EXCELLENT power forward prospects, and if for some reason the Nets don't nab one of them there are some quality power forwards in free agency... Coupled with Yi's development I don't think Anderson is a big loss for the Nets.

He may just yet turn into a quality 6th man but he's not the next Rashard Lewis he just doesn't have the first step or ball-handling ability to consistently beat defenders off the dribble.

With that being said Ryan is going to thrive in Orlando. The offensive system is tailor made to his strengths and having Dwight Howard in the paint will help to minimize his weaknesses.

I think what you have to remember is that due to the different personnel on each team the Ryan Anderson you are going to see on the Magic would never have been able to exist on the Nets.

[vincecarter4pres]

Sorry, I just won't let my man love for Mr. Anderson die.

No sweat on the draft, was just asking.

I understand he had to go to get rid of Carter and Lee looks better then I thought he would, so that's a positive.

I just can't let go til people admit he's going to be more then your average role player and likely will be a Rodney Rogers level 6xth man of the year candidate type after another season or 2.

[kamaze]

Anderson wasn't in the trade for Vince. Wasn't it Ryan for Battie in a seperate deal?

[Rich Rane]

Anderson wasn't in the trade for Vince. Wasn't it Ryan for Battie in a seperate deal?

I believe it was a separate deal, but the Magic weren't going to accept the VC trade if we didn't trade Anderson.

[kamaze]

You're right he's a good player they could've used him in a deal to get a real good power forward.
Ryan Anderson and a 2nd rounder for Haslem yeah baby.

If not he's a good player to have.

[Rockice_8]

Would I still like to have him yes, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over him. He has a crafty offensive game and soild range. He also has his limitations and at best is a 7th man on a good team.

[kamaze]

He started the other night for Orlando and is supposedly the starter till Rashard Lewis comes back from suspension.

[Last Guardian]

You guys should be pretty happy with Lee. I see he is getting 17ppg with great %'s so far. And as a Magic fan, I don't believe those #'s are temporary. Yes he won't keep the amazing %'s but you have yourselves a legit offensive player. He has a sweet mid-range game, a solid driving game and he will knock down an open 3 regularly. I am curious to see Lee and Harris starting together. I think the Nets will win more games than people think.

As for Anderson, yea he is obviously a good fit for us. But I don't see what makes him so irreplaceable. And in the Nets case, you already have Yi. Yi and Anderson seem rather redundant to me. Both being outside shooting PFs who rebound okay (not great, but decent). Anderson might have a more well-rounded offensive game at the moment, but Yi is a bigger, younger, better shot-blocker and he does at least have the offensive potential to get better.

[S.I.C. GM]

I am also upset that Anderson had to go. Frank just didnt know how to use the guy. Now a real coach has him hopefully he is successful.

That said. I like what Lee brings to this team. MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE BALL!!!!

that is also why he should start over CDR. CDR gets his offense off ISOs. Lee works screens and runs around. CDR needs to learn some of that stuff too especially if Twill is in the lineup.

[vincecarter4pres]

I am also upset that Anderson had to go. Frank just didnt know how to use the guy. Now a real coach has him hopefully he is successful.

That said. I like what Lee brings to this team. MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE BALL!!!!

that is also why he should start over CDR. CDR gets his offense off ISOs. Lee works screens and runs around. CDR needs to learn some of that stuff too especially if Twill is in the lineup.

But this is also a reason for them both to start. Diversity.

[NetsForce]

I just don't think there's enough shooting to free up Brook if you start CDR... Unless Devin has expanded his range...

[kamaze]

Orlando's on ESPN and Ryan's killin it! Frank was holding him back.

[NewJerseyNet]

{posted this in another thread before reading this one}


I liked the idea of a shooter pairing with Brooke. Not Yi, who I would be amazed if he turned into an NBA caliber PF.

Ryan Anderson looked like he had some potential here. Sure he had some silly fouls, and a few compensating on defense, but isn't he just as young a Brooke? I'm not sure why he wasn't given a chance to improve. His shooting is the real deal, and he is an active rebounder. Plus players drafted at 19, 20, years old don't really show what they can do physically for 2 - 3 years, and he is written as having the work ethic to become a more athletic defender, really the only area he was in question there.

Admittingly, I only watched a hand-full of games last season because the Nets had been so bad going into the year, that I just didn't care for them, but Ryan was a guy I wanted to see when I did watch. I understand that Courtney Lee is a keeper, he is a solid defender, and solid shooter, but what happened to the don't trade big for small rule? A quality 20 year old shooting big man, with versatility, hard working, and FILLS A NEED ON YOUR TEAM, for a dime a dozen 2 guard, (who to be fair seems to stand out to some degree within the dozen), just doesn't make much sense to me.

They need to pursue Bosh, or even Lebron at the 4. If that even works for Lebron. There aren't to many athletic defensive rebounding fours in this league that can be obtained. If our reason for trading Anderson was because they think they can upgrade that position, I just don't know who it is Thorn is looking at going after.

BTW, I just checked Tyson Chandlers status, he has a 12 million player option, he would be a great fit on this team since he runs the floor, and blocks shots pretty much exclusively (has some rebounding ability as well), but why would he opt out of so much money, people know he is limited now. He's not getting more then that anywhere else.

[NewJerseyNet]

I am also upset that Anderson had to go. Frank just didnt know how to use the guy. Now a real coach has him hopefully he is successful.

That said. I like what Lee brings to this team. MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE BALL!!!!

that is also why he should start over CDR. CDR gets his offense off ISOs. Lee works screens and runs around. CDR needs to learn some of that stuff too especially if Twill is in the lineup.

He had some flaws on defense, and Frank I'm sure was being ordered to play Yi for money concerns. But to put it all into perspective I saw a starting Caliber PF in him down the line. He has major scoring ability, and a ton of upside because of his age, and work ethic. He should have been kept on the roster, and had his minutes upped.

[NewJerseyNet]

NetsForce

Second of all... Ryan Anderson was the price for moving Vince Carter's contract. I never though Carter's contract was that bad but the perception I get is that NBA GM's though it was...
I'm reading everywhere he was the price for Courtney Lee... another deal not involving Anderson that would have moved Vince was supposedly on the table.

He may just yet turn into a quality 6th man but he's not the next Rashard Lewis he just doesn't have the first step or ball-handling ability to consistently beat defenders off the dribble.Since when does a starting Pf need to consistently need to beat somebody off the dribble, He is a shooter who moves well without the ball. Also runs the floor extremly well. Sign of genuine Athletism

With that being said Ryan is going to thrive in Orlando. The offensive system is tailor made to his strengths and having Dwight Howard in the paint will help to minimize his weaknesses.That could have been Brooke + less emphasis that he score all our points out of a forward position.

I think what you have to remember is that due to the different personnel on each team the Ryan Anderson you are going to see on the Magic would never have been able to exist on the Nets.What? he already showed that potential on our team, just wasn't being given an opportunity like he might get on Orlando to start the season.[/quote]