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11/4: Boston @ Minnesota

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Is a loss acceptable as long as we put up a good effort and show potential?

Yes: We're a rebuilding team that isn't even at full strength anyway
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#261 » by Wolves2011 » Thu Nov 5, 2009 4:32 am

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KG_Wolves wrote:Why is Flynn 4 for 6 and Brewer 6 for 16??? Rambis plz tell Brewer u aren't Kobe and pass the ball...


really? Corey took 16 shots? from watching the game it certainly looked like he took ~10 shots. must have been some offensive tip in tries or whatever.


Brewer did the same thing last game.... 21 shots against clippers....18 shots against Phoenix....He thinks he's the #1 offensive option.... he should be 5th.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#262 » by Calinks » Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:02 am

And people call Foye a chucker.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#263 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:10 am

Brewer has the confidence in his shot. The coaching staff has given him liberty to shoot. Maybe he'll eventually shoot his way out of his slump. I'd rather have that than him not be a part of the offense, whuch means not only does he lose his confidence, but the game also becomes 5 on 4. We are usually playing in a hole enough the way it is, we don't need to make it worse by totally ignoring Brewer on the offensive end.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#264 » by Calinks » Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:26 am

NBA TV just ripped the refs for their end of game calls in this game.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#265 » by southern wolf » Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:18 am

Didn't get to watch the game, but it did look like Brewer was fouled on the replay. It was a great effort to keep it close though. The Celt's may have been affected by the game in Philly the night before, but they're a great team, and they dealt with it. I bet we'll get smashed by the bucks now lol.

Rambis made some good points after the game... "It's tremendous for their growth to understand how hard you have to play to win games against quality teams. It's so hard for young teams to win close ballgames - they just don't have the experience in those situations." He's remaining patient with them, but I wonder how long that will last?
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#266 » by GopherIt! » Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:55 am

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well tbh I didn't read your post ;)

and I'm sure I'll find a way to screw up my lead Timberwolves style...


It wasn't a post. I got to talk to Stewie after the game Monday. I knew his option had been declined earlier in the day so when I got his sig I decided to give him some encouraging words. He was thankful for the gesture. The group of obnoxious high school kids he had just went out of his way to sign for had no idea who he even was.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#267 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Nov 5, 2009 2:29 pm

I actually thought the tie up on Brewer was clean, but as for the rest of the game...why was it such an emergency to get the regular refs back again? I'll take the lack of experience in certain situations w/ the replacement refs if it means I don't have to deal with the biased buddy buddy garbage with the guys they like and the 'screw you' calls against guys they don't like. Cardinal and Sheed were both getting screwed and it's because the refs are a-holes and don't like them. This is all thanks to Donaghy, he confirmed what we already knew, give that man a plaque.

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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#268 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Nov 5, 2009 2:51 pm

and by the way, my first bone to pick with Rambis:

why would you ever play Hollins/Cardinal/Wilkins/Pavlovic/Sessions? He keeps sending that lineup out there and its a trainwreck as you could easily guess.

And Ellington and Pavs are both shooting horribly, but I think Ellington has looked better handling the ball and playing defense, Pavs hasn't done much to justify being ahead of him in the rotation besides that they went out to get him so now they have to justify the contract w/ minutes.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#269 » by Biff Cooper » Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:09 pm

I'm too lazy to read 18 pages of thread. Was there any discussion about how we kept leaving Rondo wide open? There was at least a couple instances where Flynn left him wide open under the hoop so he could go double some guy on the perimeter. There were several other instances where Jefferson (or another big) came off his guy because Rondo had the ball with noone around him leaving his guy wide open for a pass at the hoop. Anyone at the game watching this? It was tough to get a perspective on TV whether this was all game planning that was poorly executed at times or if Flynn was playing really bad defense.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#270 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:27 pm

the plan was to leave Rondo on the perimeter because he can't shoot, then he started standing next the basket instead, but Flynn was still playing 35 feet off of him. You'd think that'd be corrected after 1 instance, but unfortunately no.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#271 » by Gant » Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:30 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:the plan was to leave Rondo on the perimeter because he can't shoot, then he started standing next the basket instead, but Flynn was still playing 35 feet off of him. You'd think that'd be corrected after 1 instance, but unfortunately no.


That was really strange. Rondo was just left alone time after time for lay ins. Flynn was impressive though- first time I've seen him in the pros.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#272 » by Calinks » Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:56 pm

It was funny because in the post game KG was talking and the Celtics basically thought Flynn was being really stupid and defending Rondo poorly. He said that they saw that Flynn wasn't experienced enough and made some big mistakes with Rondo so they took advantage. Really I think a lot of that was Rambis telling Rondo to play of him which worked on the perimeter but was a disaster anywhere else.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#273 » by Mattya » Thu Nov 5, 2009 4:00 pm

Gant wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:the plan was to leave Rondo on the perimeter because he can't shoot, then he started standing next the basket instead, but Flynn was still playing 35 feet off of him. You'd think that'd be corrected after 1 instance, but unfortunately no.


That was really strange. Rondo was just left alone time after time for lay ins. Flynn was impressive though- first time I've seen him in the pros.


The thing is it is not really Jonny's fault for Rondo scoring in the 3rd, sure some of it is, but like Jim Pete said it was there game plan for Flynn to be a roamer on defense, they were giving Rondo open shots early on. The Celtics changed their gameplan in the 3rd, because they saw the weakness in our post defense. It wasn't all Jonny's fault because Big Al and the other post players weren't helping on defense when it was Jonny's job to double KG. Thats the thing with the Celtics though, you are gonna have to double somebody, and then your going to give things up becuase they are so stacked with talent. In my opinion we shouldn't have doubled KG at all. We don't have the defensive players to make a great passer like KG make mistakes. I think we played very well last night on both ends of the court. Brewer and Gomes shut down Pierce and Allen while also making them work on the defensive side of the ball. Big Al is definately getting his legs back under him and his touch is really coming back fast. Flynn played well getting everyone involved in the second half. Depeche Mode stepped up and did his job and hit shots, played some hard nosed defense too, at least for his standards. Hollins hustled and played good defense, still very raw on the offensive side of the ball. The one thing I noticed is I think Pecherov is our only big right now who isn't getting lost on the offensive side of the ball. Hollins gets lost a lot and even Big Al has some problems knowing where to be sometimes. That is to be expected when your learning a new offense though. The guy I am most impressed with is probably Brewer or Big Al. Big Al has played really well coming back so early from surgery, I can't wait to see what he looks like around all star break. Brewer has pretty much amazed me. I was so down on him when the season started, I didn't even want his option picked up a couple days ago, but now, his defense is even better, added a little(very little at that) muscle, and his offense is looking a lot better. The one thing they need to change is him dribbling the ball. He just shouldn't dribble the ball, because he tends to dribble himself into bad shots. He should only keep working on being a spot up shooter and a secondary cutter. I do like to see him post up smaller shooting guards though. His height could really create mismatches there. Anyway I hope this effort was more than just a one night thing.
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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#274 » by drza » Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:44 pm

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Re: 11/4: Boston @ Minnesota 

Post#275 » by Biff Cooper » Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:17 pm

drza wrote:
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