Nocioni... an actual rumor this time apparently

Avalanche · Post #1 » by **Avalanche** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:40 am

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Where do we turn next for our NBA trade chatter now that Stephen Jackson has been moved. We're hearing of a potential new three-way deal

Word is this is an exploratory discussion at the minute, but the key elements would be Nocioni to BOS, Dalembert to SAC, Cap Relief to PHI

Particulars as they stood early Tuesday AM, with Kenny Thomas representing the potential cap relief, found here http://tinyurl.com/ygez4nw

from the general board

Kefa461 · Post #2 » by **Kefa461** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:59 am

Sounds like a deal is in the start up phase at least.........

ps.....it does work in the trade checker.

8-)

BillessuR6 · Post #3 » by **BillessuR6** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:11 am

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... ossibility

Sources told ESPN.com that the Philadelphia 76ers and Sacramento Kings, in considering the feasibility of a Samuel Dalembert-for-Kenny Thomas swap, have discussed expanding that concept with Boston by trying to draw in the Celtics on a potential three-way deal that would land Andres Nocioni with the Celts.

Sources further stressed over the past 48 hours that this should be classified as an ongoing conversation as the teams involved decide how much they like what’s on the table.

But the full deal as it stands, if it eventually gets that far, would send Nocioni to Boston, Kenny Thomas, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine to Philadelphia and Dalembert and J.R. Giddens to Sacramento.

This would be the best possible trade for Boston and give us brilliant top 10 + Sheldon, Walker,Hudson.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #4 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:12 am

I wonder who we are giving up...?=x

Eddie, Marquis, Nocioni, BBD and/or Shelden, Rasheed..that's a really good bench. We would be 11 deep..and we wouldn't have to see Scalabrine on the court at all! I love it..get it done Danny!

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #5 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:14 am

thebirdman wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/10741/the-next-big-trade-heres-a-three-team-possibility

Sources told ESPN.com that the Philadelphia 76ers and Sacramento Kings, in considering the feasibility of a Samuel Dalembert-for-Kenny Thomas swap, have discussed expanding that concept with Boston by trying to draw in the Celtics on a potential three-way deal that would land Andres Nocioni with the Celts.

Sources further stressed over the past 48 hours that this should be classified as an ongoing conversation as the teams involved decide how much they like what’s on the table.

But the full deal as it stands, if it eventually gets that far, would send Nocioni to Boston, Kenny Thomas, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine to Philadelphia and Dalembert and J.R. Giddens to Sacramento.

This would be the best possible trade for Boston and give us brilliant top 10 + Sheldon, Walker,Hudson.

Holy **** ****. WE TRADE SCALABRINE?Man..if this is true... DO IT..NOW!!!!

BillessuR6 · Post #6 » by **BillessuR6** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:21 am

I would like Scal back. Hopefully he would get bought out...

GuyClinch · Post #7 » by **GuyClinch** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:35 am

^^^I can live without him.

I know he is a boston fan favorite but a free roster spot could come in handy..

Post #8 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:15 pm

Out goes scal. In comes nocioni.

Please ainge, please get this done.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #9 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:16 pm

thebirdman wrote:I would like Scal back. Hopefully he would get bought out...

????

Get rid of Scal!!!! :pray:

BillTheGOAT · Post #10 » by **BillTheGOAT** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:22 pm

so we get rid of TA,scal and giddens and get nocioni...so we have 2 roster spots available. I think scal will be bought out and return...then we could sign someone at the deadline......

Bad-Thoma · Post #11 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:25 pm

Getting rid of 3 guys who barely see the floor for a guy who will? I like it. Nocioni plays hard and pisses people off too, also I like it. Seems too good to be true though...

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #12 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:29 pm

corndog wrote:so we get rid of TA,scal and giddens and get nocioni...so we have 2 roster spots available. I think scal will be bought out and return...then we could sign someone at the deadline......

He probably would get bought out..you know why? Because he SUCKS...why would we get rid of this **** loser, and want to sign him again?Sheesh...

BillTheGOAT · Post #13 » by **BillTheGOAT** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:39 pm

no he doesn't suck....he knows our system and is a team player...we need him for depth and he does so many good things in general.

**btw, this mean no ray allen next year

Kefa461 · Post #14 » by **Kefa461** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:41 pm

Hmmmm....3 non-players for 1 player.......hmmmmmmm it's a no brainer. Do it Danny.

:pray:

Lewis35 · Post #15 » by **Lewis35** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:43 pm

This sound too good to be true. However I can see the logic because Nocioni has a rather large contract.

ryaningf · Post #16 » by **ryaningf** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:02 pm

The salary ramifications of this deal are very hard to swallow.

I don't like taking on MLE money for a bad defending, perimeter oriented 3/4. That's money that would be better spent next season locking Daniels into a MLE contract, or resigning Ray and later Perk. It just doesn't make fiscal sense, nor basketball sense. We're already perimeter oriented on the 2nd unit--this deal would make it worse and make our defense worse as well.

Nocioni just isn't that good and he makes too much money.

klemen4 · Post #17 » by **klemen4** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:08 pm

The best possible trade if this happens

Scal, Allen, Giddens FOR Nocioni

RONDO/DANIELS
ALLEN/HOUSE
PIERCE/NOCIONI
GARNET/DAVIS/WILLIAMS
PERKINS/WALLACE

+WALKER,HUDSON

11 man deep bench...amazing!!!

Post #18 » by **darrendaye** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:13 pm

Hopefully this comes to fruition. I'm not a huge fan of Nocioni, but for the role the team needs, he's a solid fit. Moreso, I would be happy to have another tradeable asset in a season or two.

I will state that I believe that there is an irrational distain for TA and Scal by some on this board, however.

Lewis35 · Post #19 » by **Lewis35** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:16 pm

ryaningf I would not be that worried. 98% of the time these trade rumors are just that. I doubt anything will happen.

Post #20 » by **darrendaye** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:17 pm

ryaningf wrote:The salary ramifications of this deal are very hard to swallow.

I don't like taking on MLE money for a bad defending, perimeter oriented 3/4. That's money that would be better spent next season locking Daniels into a MLE contract, or resigning Ray and later Perk. It just doesn't make fiscal sense, nor basketball sense. We're already perimeter oriented on the 2nd unit--this deal would make it worse and make our defense worse as well.

Nocioni just isn't that good and he makes too much money.

You're assuming that by taking on the contract that the team will be unwilling to spend the MLE next offseason? Otherwise, while I concur with your assessment that he will be overpaid for his worth, he has a role that he can fill on the team backing up Pierce and will be a trade chip after next season as an expiring contract. More to the point, I get the sense that there will not be many beneficial trade offers for this bundle of players on another $7mm salaried contributory player.