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Post#1 » by brewcityboii » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:44 pm

Who do you think from the Packers will/should make the pro bowl?


Offense: Favre, Jennings, Maybe Tauscher Lee (lee if he continues to get better and if the giants go in there downward spiral, which I expect, only ones I think might be more talented in NFC are Cooley, shockey, and witten )
Defense: Kampmann, Cwood, Al Harris, Barnett, Maybe corey williams and KGB
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Post#2 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:23 pm

I was thinking about this subject over the weekend.

If the Packers end up winning 14 games, they should get at least six guys on the team and that's the low end. San Diego's team last season got 11 on the roster.

My pro-bowlers:

QB: Brett Favre
TE: Donald Lee
OT: Mark Tauscher
DE: Aaron Kampman
DT: Nick Barnett
CB: Al Harris
CB: Charles Woodson

I think there are a couple guys on the verge as well. Greg Jennings likely won't have an eye popping number of receptions, but if he simply keeps pace he'll end up with more than 1000 yards and 12 TDs and lead the league in YPC. That should get him in. Corey Willliams has a tough task to make it in the NFC over Darnell Dockett, Shaun Rodgers and Tommie Harris, but I'm not counting him out. KGB is only half a sack from leading the NFC in sacks. I don't know if they would elect a 3rd down, pass rushing specialist, but if he has 13 sacks at the end of the year he should make it as well.
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Post#3 » by livestrong4ever » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:28 pm

DrugBust wrote:I was thinking about this subject over the weekend.

If the Packers end up winning 14 games, they should get at least six guys on the team and that's the low end. San Diego's team last season got 11 on the roster.

My pro-bowlers:

QB: Brett Favre
TE: Donald Lee
OT: Mark Tauscher
DE: Aaron Kampman
DT: Nick Barnett
CB: Al Harris
CB: Charles Woodson

I think there are a couple guys on the verge as well. Greg Jennings likely won't have an eye popping number of receptions, but if he simply keeps pace he'll end up with more than 1000 yards and 12 TDs and lead the league in YPC. That should get him in. Corey Willliams has a tough task to make it in the NFC over Darnell Dockett, Shaun Rodgers and Tommie Harris, but I'm not counting him out. KGB is only half a sack from leading the NFC in sacks. I don't know if they would elect a 3rd down, pass rushing specialist, but if he has 13 sacks at the end of the year he should make it as well.


I don't know about Al harris and Woodson. They might get in, but the packers allow 213 yards passing a game, and are 9the in the NFC in allowed passing yards. Also they have 9 INTs which is tied for fourth. So it will be interesting. I am thinking Harris will still proably get in though.


How many TE's are allowed in the Pro bowl? I would put Witten shockey, and cooley ahead of lee at this point.

Of course Favre would make it, Jennings too. Kampman no brainer. Nick Barnett will get in. So thats three for me. Maybe more.
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Post#4 » by Nash13/Marion31 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:06 pm

Offense - Favre
Defense - Barnett, Kampman, Woodson
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Post#5 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:30 pm

livestrong4ever, you're probably right about Lee. His numbers are good but yea, I'd put him behind those three. If he can get a few more TDs he might have a shot.

Harris and Woodson will both get in. Harris has been snubbed each of the last two seasons but the hype around the team this year will carry him. Woodson has actually gotten press as a possible defensive player of the year. He's been on a lot of mid-season All-Pro teams, including Pasquarelli's. He's also made a lot of key, game changing plays on national TV.
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Post#6 » by Fort Minor » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:45 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I don't know about Al harris and Woodson. They might get in, but the packers allow 213 yards passing a game, and are 9the in the NFC in allowed passing yards. Also they have 9 INTs which is tied for fourth. So it will be interesting. I am thinking Harris will still proably get in though.


FIgure out how many of those yards come from receivers, then you might have something...but I'd be willing to bet that over half of those yards come from Tight Ends and Running Backs, who obviously aren't covered by Woodson and Harris.
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Post#7 » by livestrong4ever » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:18 pm

DrugBust wrote:livestrong4ever, you're probably right about Lee. His numbers are good but yea, I'd put him behind those three. If he can get a few more TDs he might have a shot.

Harris and Woodson will both get in. Harris has been snubbed each of the last two seasons but the hype around the team this year will carry him. Woodson has actually gotten press as a possible defensive player of the year. He's been on a lot of mid-season All-Pro teams, including Pasquarelli's. He's also made a lot of key, game changing plays on national TV.


Yeah Woodson might get in, i see he has 3 INts.

I am looking at who has the most interceptions, and i see Anthony Henry with 5. But only has 15 tackles so i don't know. Marcus Trufant looks like a good option though too. If Harris can shut down, Owens. If he is on him in the dallas game he might just have a shot.
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Post#8 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:32 pm

I was thinking about this the other day as well. I figured Favre, Kampman, and Woodson to be virtual locks. The media is having a field day with Woodson, talking about him reviving his career and such. They seem to talk about it every game. Likewise with Favre. Everyone loves him and if he plays well (as he has) he's going to go. Kampman is repeating last year's effort. Barnett, Jennings, Harris, Tauscher are definite possibilities. I wouldn't count out KGB either, despite the fact he's only a rush end. I don't think Lee will make it, likewise with Williams, but props to both of them for playing at the level that gets them considered.
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Post#9 » by LUKE23 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:25 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I don't know about Al harris and Woodson. They might get in, but the packers allow 213 yards passing a game, and are 9the in the NFC in allowed passing yards. Also they have 9 INTs which is tied for fourth. So it will be interesting. I am thinking Harris will still proably get in though.


How many TE's are allowed in the Pro bowl? I would put Witten shockey, and cooley ahead of lee at this point.

Of course Favre would make it, Jennings too. Kampman no brainer. Nick Barnett will get in. So thats three for me. Maybe more.


Better check your numbers again, specifically completion % allowed and yards per reception allowed. Of course our total passing yards allowed will be somewhat high, we've had the lead like 85%+ of the season.
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Post#10 » by livestrong4ever » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:16 am

LUKE23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Better check your numbers again, specifically completion % allowed and yards per reception allowed. Of course our total passing yards allowed will be somewhat high, we've had the lead like 85%+ of the season.


hmm you make a very good point luke. That people will be passing on you with the lead. I am gonna tried to find the completion percentage allowed.
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Post#11 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:08 am

I think Favre, Kampman, Barnett, and Woodson are near locks. The funny thing is that Harris is better than Woodson, but he doesn't get that type of respect from most people.
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Post#12 » by DelaneyRudd » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:06 am

There could be a surprise guy in if things go really well in the second half, like Hawk or Poppinga.
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Post#13 » by skitch815 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:55 am

Favre, Tauscher, Kampman, Barnett and Woodson should be locks. I think Harris is having a better season than Woodson, but like someone said earlier, he just seems to get overlooked back there.

I really like Jennings chances too, but he needs a few really big games to make up for those couple he missed at the beginning of the season.
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Post#14 » by El Duderino » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:00 am

Ayt wrote:I think Favre, Kampman, Barnett, and Woodson are near locks. The funny thing is that Harris is better than Woodson, but he doesn't get that type of respect from most people.


Yep

I've thought that about Harris also. Woodson gets more picks so he gets more hype, but if i wanted either guy to match up with the best WR on another team, i'd take Harris over Woodson without a second thought.
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Post#15 » by MikeIsGood » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:21 am

I think most Packer fans will acknowledge Harris is the better corner, and we've been recognizing Al as one of the best for years now. But the media overlooks him.

But not to take away from Woodson, who is also a great one.
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Post#16 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:18 pm

I think Woodson is an outstanding corner, but Harris is the better cover man and it's not really that close. But Woodson's got the hype and former accolades and that's a huge edge. If he can make a few big plays and fill up the stat sheet with INTs he'll go to the Pro Bowl.

I think we could end up saying the same about Hawk vs Barnett in the coming seasons. Few have played MLB better than Nick this year and he should go. But I think if Hawk would simply have a couple of those stat filling plays like sacks and/or INTs he'd be going to Hawaii. If the Packers have a top ranked defense, the media will look for reasons to send Packers to the Pro Bowl and with Hawk's name recognition he'd be going despite not having the eye opening season of a guy like Willis or Fletcher.
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Post#17 » by Mags FTW » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:34 pm

Well, the first batch of vote totals are out.
http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/11/15/1/

NFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS
Offense
QB Brett Favre, Packers -- 458,837
RB Adrian Peterson, Vikings -- 317,388
FB Tony Richardson, Vikings -- 79,499
WR Terrell Owens, Cowboys -- 255,490
TE Jason Witten, Cowboys -- 238,598
T Flozell Adams, Cowboys -- 138,986
G Leonard Davis, Cowboys -- 124,316
C Andre Gurode, Cowboys -- 121,462
K Nick Folk, Cowboys -- 107,372
KR Devin Hester, Bears -- 249,212

Defense
DE Osi Umenyiora, Giants -- 166,529
IL Tommie Harris, Bears -- 96,227
OLB DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys -- 151,589
ILB Nick Barnett, Packers -- 96,140
CB Charles Woodson, Packers -- 137,925

SS Roy Williams, Cowboys -- 108,450
FS Sean Taylor, Redskins -- 93,639
P Mat McBriar, Cowboys -- 85,609
ST Keith Davis, Cowboys -- 70,490

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AFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS
Offense
QB Peyton Manning, Colts -- 441,852
RB Joseph Addai, Colts -- 297,504
FB Lorenzo Neal, Chargers -- 194,880
WR Randy Moss, Patriots -- 342,250
TE Antonio Gates, Chargers -- 199,593
T Matt Light, Patriots -- 179,054
G Eric Steinbach, Browns -- 188,052
C Jeff Saturday, Colts -- 168,502
K Adam Vinatieri, Colts -- 82,922
KR Wes Welker, Patriots -- 69,590

Defense
DE Dwight Freeney, Colts -- 209,272
IL Vince Wilfork, Patriots -- 100,032
OLB Shawne Merriman, Chargers -- 148,287
ILB Tedy Bruschi, Patriots -- 121,099
CB Champ Bailey, Broncos -- 183,109
SS Troy Polamalu, Steelers -- 134,868
FS Ed Reed, Ravens -- 110, 412
P Chris Hanson, Patriots -- 52,131
ST Larry Izzo, Patriots -- 105,147
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Post#18 » by Ayt » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:01 pm

Look at all those Cowboys. I'm a little surprised Barnett leads at his position.
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Post#19 » by livestrong4ever » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:51 pm

Ayt wrote:Look at all those Cowboys. I'm a little surprised Barnett leads at his position.


What do you expect Ayt, when only two teams in the NFC are good and the rest basically are average or suck lol.
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Post#20 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:03 pm

I didn't even know that there was fan voting for the Pro Bowl.

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