2010 Pre March-Madness Mock (1st round---2/26)

babyjax13 · Post #21 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:13 am

And if we're going BPA and they're both PF/C's? I don't see why the strengths in particular parts of the draft shouldn't be taken into account.

Kahn already has a history of going BPA and not looking at team needs (Rubio-Flynn) and I don't think you can argue with the results. He has a great trade chip (Rubio) and a starting point guard for years to come.

Post #22 » by **Gremz** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:46 am

babyjax13 wrote:
Looks very solid all around now. A little interested in the Sacramento pick. I'd figure they might look for a combo PF/C at this point. Just my opinion though.

Really like the way this board is shaping up.

I don't really follow the Kings too awful much, but I'll give you my reasoning as to why I have them taking Warren (for now).

I. They already have their center and power forward positions pretty much locked up for the next 5-6 years as long as no one leaves in free agency, Hawes and Thompson are posth very compitant starters and have great potential (neither has been in the NBA more than 3 years).

II. At small forward and point guard they already have a lot of depth. Small Forward: Garcia/Casspi Point Guard: Evans/Rodriguez/Udrih. At shooting guard they have aplayer who is garnering a lot of interest in the NBA, and who was rumored to be in 2 or 3 trades over the summer. Evans has great size, so a guy like Warren would fit perfectly next to him (much like paring James Harden with Russel Westbrook).

III. High first round picks aren't usually used on backups, so if Sacramento wants a F/C (of which their are plenty in this draft) they would trade down to get someone like Udoh, or tow of my favorite college players JaJuan Johnson and Dexter Pittman.

However, that being said, I sort of like them to take Motiejunas.

Now, can you tell me why you think Sacramento would take a F/C? You might be able to change my mind....

I don't see Minnesota passing on Turner for another PF.

I am having a really hard time dropping Favors past two, and with the Jefferson rumors I think that it would be a logical pick were a trade to happen. Not saying that is what will happen, but I am not going to drop him past two unless something really changes my mind.

Well here's my thing. With Beno on such a lengthy deal you'd assume he'd stay there a while. and with Evans starting at the PG, that position looks locked for a season or so. KMart will probably play 38ish MPG on return, and I'm sure between either Evans, Rodriguez or Casspi (maybe) they can fill the other 10. Casspi and Greene look locked in for the meantime at SF which leaves only PF and C. Perhaps Thompson can switch to Center for periods, but after this season, Kenny Thomas will be gone, and it's not like John Brockman or Sean May are capable backups to Hawes or Thompson.

I'd just assumed it filled more of a hole if they went with a bigman. Saves them chasing unneeded Free Agents.

Gilles · Post #23 » by **Gilles** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:52 am

Gremz wrote:Well here's my thing. With Beno on such a lengthy deal you'd assume he'd stay there a while. and with Evans starting at the PG, that position looks locked for a season or so. KMart will probably play 38ish MPG on return, and I'm sure between either Evans, Rodriguez or Casspi (maybe) they can fill the other 10. Casspi and Greene look locked in for the meantime at SF which leaves only PF and C. Perhaps Thompson can switch to Center for periods, but after this season, Kenny Thomas will be gone, and it's not like John Brockman or Sean May are capable backups to Hawes or Thompson.

I'd just assumed it filled more of a hole if they went with a bigman. Saves them chasing unneeded Free Agents.

1. Thompson cannot play center. He's tall but he sometimes gets pushed around by PFs. Even Hayes of all centers can move him.
2. Hawes plays like PF. He can handle really big and not particularly quick centers (see Bynum, Andrew) but he can't keep anyone off D glass and is not really an inside presence.
These facts mean Kings should go after PF/Cs or true Cs who
a) control D glass
b) control paint
Among elite prospects only Aldrich does both things and is within realm of possibility unless Kings luck out at ping pong and have a shot at Favors.
Cousins does a) and maybe serviceable at b), Alabi has it visa versa.

babyjax13 · Post #24 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:22 pm

Alright, I've changed the Sacramento pick to Alabi.....

canucklife21 · Post #25 » by **canucklife21** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:41 pm

Stanley Robinson that early? i know he can jump and get rebounds but in the top 10 and more importantly ahead aminu?

babyjax13 · Post #26 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:46 pm

The Jazz need a wing player, I don't like Warren (and he's not an "O'Conner pick"), and Henry and Turner have been taken. Robinson, if he developes his shot, will be a solid player.

canucklife21 · Post #27 » by **canucklife21** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:08 pm

def see your point.

babyjax13 · Post #28 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:47 am

Updated

Silver Man · Post #29 » by **Silver Man** » Mon Feb 8, 2010 4:08 am

Wesley Johnson is nice, but we already have Casspi and Greene, and they have been better than expected, plus it's our deepest position so taking Johnson with our pick is out of the question. I would much rather the Kings take Cole Aldrich with the pick.

Also Aminu would be a very good choice also for the Jazz, but Xavier isn't bad also.

Stephenson is way too high.

Lastly I don't tink Pittman would really fit in with the way the Thunder play.

MYoung23 · Post #30 » by **MYoung23** » Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:24 pm

No way the Cavaliers would pass over Paul George for Kyle Singler. Singler is struggling shooting the ball and defending his position on the college level. Mike Brown loves long athletic players that can shoot like George.

babyjax13 · Post #31 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:53 pm

Silver Man wrote:Wesley Johnson is nice, but we already have Casspi and Greene, and they have been better than expected, plus it's our deepest position so taking Johnson with our pick is out of the question. I would much rather the Kings take Cole Aldrich with the pick.

Also Aminu would be a very good choice also for the Jazz, but Xavier isn't bad also.

Stephenson is way too high.

Lastly I don't tink Pittman would really fit in with the way the Thunder play.

I agree with you on the Sacramento and OKC bit (changed those). Aminu, however is not what the Jazz need. They have a major problem hitting three point shots and I think that if Boozer stays (which he likely will) their top priority has to be getting a wing that can hit those shots. Korver might be gone, AK and Brewer aren't shooters, and CJ Miles is a terrible player.

No way the Cavaliers would pass over Paul George for Kyle Singler. Singler is struggling shooting the ball and defending his position on the college level. Mike Brown loves long athletic players that can shoot like George.

Look at how many of those guys they already have though. Cleveland'g wing positions are pretty much locked up, all that is in question is what do you do with your power forward and center positions post Shaq-Illguaskes?

MYoung23 · Post #32 » by **MYoung23** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:17 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Silver Man wrote:
No way the Cavaliers would pass over Paul George for Kyle Singler. Singler is struggling shooting the ball and defending his position on the college level. Mike Brown loves long athletic players that can shoot like George.

Look at how many of those guys they already have though. Cleveland'g wing positions are pretty much locked up, all that is in question is what do you do with your power forward and center positions post Shaq-Illguaskes?

I don't believe the wing sections are locked up. Anthony Parker is 34 years and Moon is on a 2 year deal. The Cavaliers like Jawad Williams, Danny Green and Christian Eyenga but with the Cavaliers making a concerted effort to play better small they can never have enough athletic guys that can defend and make shots.

Despite every team wanting him when they talk trade with the Cavaliers it would take a young high level player for the Cavaliers to trade JJ Hickson. So far only Iguodala and Stoudemire qualify and they aren't likely getting either at the deadline. With Hickson and Varejao the Cavaliers are fine at the PF spot.

Center is a concern. Sasha Kuan and playing very well in the Euroleague but there doesn't appear to be a long term starter solution on the horizon. They may look to squeeze another year out of Shaq.

babyjax13 · Post #33 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:45 am

Updated.

Post #34 » by **gswhoops** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:39 pm

Cousins would be a great fit in GS. We need a tank in the middle who can score in the post, rebound and outlet pass.

babyjax13 · Post #35 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:22 am

I think Cousins (or Favors even) would be great for the Warriors. They can keep up in a run-and-gun system, and also give them a new dimension in the half-court.

Jazzfan12 · Post #36 » by **Jazzfan12** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:18 am

Doesn't Golden State already have a good, young center?

babyjax13 · Post #37 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:29 am

They have Biendrins, but Cousins has great potential and he could easily be a power forward as well.

Silver Man · Post #38 » by **Silver Man** » Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:45 am

Please tell me Willie Warren isn't in the lottery.

Also as a Kings fan I'd rather pass on Derrick Favors for now but I still need to see a bit more of him. For now I'd rather want the Kings to select Greg Monroe or Cole Aldrich.

Post #39 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:50 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:Doesn't Golden State already have a good, young center?

Cousins gives us someone who can score in the post, which is our biggest deficiency at the moment.

babyjax13 · Post #40 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Mar 3, 2010 3:59 am

Silver Man wrote:Please tell me Willie Warren isn't in the lottery.

Also as a Kings fan I'd rather pass on Derrick Favors for now but I still need to see a bit more of him. For now I'd rather want the Kings to select Greg Monroe or Cole Aldrich.

Warren being in the lottery depends on who's picking. Lots of teams have a glut of shooting guards, or their most talented player at that position - why duplicate that with Warren who has been a disappointment this year and has a lingering injury?

As for Favors, his stats look low, but he plays just a little over half the game.