Official: Ronnie Brewer to Memphis

[I Am Awesome-O]

The Grizzlies have acquired Ronnie Brewer from the Utah Jazz for a 2011 protected first-round draft pick, a source confirmed to The Commercial Appeal.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... ooting-gu/

Awesome. Just awesome.

[MemGrizz723]

If we could somehow pull this off that would be a very good pickup.

[BarbaGrizz]

Jazz is that desperate to cut salary?

[jefe]

If it comes to fruition, this will be a great move. This would be close to a return home for him right? IIRC he's from Arkansas.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Most of the times when you hear about moves like this (involving the Grizz) they never pan out. The stuff that comes true usually hits with little to no warning.

That said I hope this works out.

Acquire Brewer, sign Wafer (if his health checks out) and suddenly the Grizz have a playoff caliber bench.

(assuming Williams moved/released)

Brewer, Wafer, Young, Carroll, Tinsley, Thabeet, Arthur, Hudson, Hunter, Haddadi

[dark-child]

I don't know how they would swing it but I would love to have him long term past this season.

I recall when he was coming out of college his reach was that of a 7 footer. (i think)

[bobobolas1]

agree with that signing. better than larry hughes.

[It_Was_Typed]

I don't expect the Grizzlies to get Brewer this easily, but do it if it's possible.

[finnegan]

Jazz fan here. My respect just dropped 10 notches for the Memphis Commercial Appeal.

Not sure were that got their info, but there is not way in hades that the Jazz trade Ronnie Brewer a for a late first round draft pick.

There was an article over a month ago where Jazz managment stated that they are not trying to cut salary this season, they are only reluctant to take on new salary next season, after Boozer's salary goes off the books.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Jazz fan here. My respect just dropped 10 notches for the Memphis Commercial Appeal.

Not sure were that got their info, but there is not way in hades that the Jazz trade Ronnie Brewer a for a late first round draft pick.

There was an article over a month ago where Jazz managment stated that they are not trying to cut salary this season, they are only reluctant to take on new salary next season, after Boozer's salary goes off the books.

Say what you will - but if Tillery reports that is was discussed - it was discussed in some manner.

[finnegan]

Say what you will - but if Tillery reports that is was discussed - it was discussed in some manner.

My guess is that Memphis thought that they had a great idea, and called up the Jazz. Proposed to take the Jazz's starting SG off their hands for a late first round draft pick. The Jazz were courteous and said "thank you for the call," and then hung up and laughed.

But your point is correct, maybe someone within the Grizzlie's organization painted a rosier picture about the discussion, than it was in reality.

I tried to find the quote, but it goes something like:

"The greatest fallacy of communication is the belief that it actually occured."

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Say what you will - but if Tillery reports that is was discussed - it was discussed in some manner.

My guess is that Memphis thought that they had a great idea, and called up the Jazz. Proposed to take the Jazz's starting SG off their hands for a late first round draft pick. The Jazz were courteous and said "thank you for the call," and then hung up and laughed.

But your point is correct, maybe someone within the Grizzlie's organization painted a rosier picture about the discussion, than it was in reality.

I tried to find the quote, but it goes something like:

"The greatest fallacy of communication is the belief that it actually occured."

*shrug* As much as I don't care for RonRon's style - his substance shouldn't be brushed aside. I've already said that the fact that it's been mentioned already means it likely won't happen. However, I won't be so homeristic/self righteous about the fact that the Jazz may have to make some tough decisions here soon. Grizz have already been there, done that and are recovering quite nicely now

[finnegan]

Say what you will - but if Tillery reports that is was discussed - it was discussed in some manner.

My guess is that Memphis thought that they had a great idea, and called up the Jazz. Proposed to take the Jazz's starting SG off their hands for a late first round draft pick. The Jazz were courteous and said "thank you for the call," and then hung up and laughed.

But your point is correct, maybe someone within the Grizzlie's organization painted a rosier picture about the discussion, than it was in reality.

I tried to find the quote, but it goes something like:

"The greatest fallacy of communication is the belief that it actually occured."

However, I won't be so homeristic/self righteous about the fact that the Jazz may have to make some tough decisions here soon.

I geuss not all teams reads the each others local news, but the Jazz have made it clear that they are not desperate to get completely under the cap.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... all_costs/

Grizz have already been there, done that and are recovering quite nicely now.

I would be interested to know what "tough decisions" the Jazz need to make.

I will admit that I am surprised that Memphis is having a good year, and that they have mostly recovered from the Pau Gasol debacle. However; the Jazz have been good for 18 of the last 20 years. And the year after they lost Stocton and Malone they still almost made the playoffs. So that clearly shows that the Pau Gasol approach to team improvement, does not apply to everyone.

I have a theory that college players are coming in the league more ready to make a contribution, as young teams are really thriving right now. I don't know the actual cause, but the effect is notable.

Regardless, I will give Grizzlies fans the courtesy of letting you know that you don't need to take a starter who plays over 30 minutes a game off our hands to save the Jazz a few million. But thank you for thinking of us.

[freakazoid]

Another Jazz fan here. I'd like to address finns comments.

the Jazz have made it clear that they are not desperate to get completely under the cap.

This doesn't necessarily mean anything. Teams often make statements like this while secretly hoping they can work something out that doesn't smak of desperation. It may also mean that they might be willing to pay the tax if it looks like the team is going somewhere, but not if the team is struggling. I wouldn't take that comment as written in stone.

You also have to consider that even if they were desperate, they would never say so, because that would obviously put them at a disadvantage in any trade talks.

I would be interested to know what "tough decisions" the Jazz need to make.

Anytime a small market team finds themselves in luxury tax territory, they definitely have tough decisions to make. A few months ago many fans were absolutely certain Booze would be traded before the season. When he wasn't, most were still sure he'd be gone by the deadline. Now it looks like Utah is looking to shed salary in other ways, in hopes of keeping Booze. No real reason to do this unless they plan on trying to re-sign him next year.

Let's say Brewer does get traded(although not for a late pick). If Boozer then ends up somewhere else next year, it means we gave up Maynor and Brewer for nothing. These are tough decisions, and to be honest, I'm quite concerned over the moves being made right now. And that's coming from someone who believes we have a better than average front office.

[vanjulio]

I think you just have to look at the Boozer and MIllsap situation to see how the Jazz are not making good decisions for their future, because of the economy or whatever. They play to "stay the course" and could be a reason in those 18/20 good years they won ZERO championships.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

That said, staying the course has gotten them to the point of being one of the minority teams that consistently has 10k+ season ticket holders annually. That's powerful stuff for ensuring the survival of a small market operation.

[Neon Black]

I think you just have to look at the Boozer and MIllsap situation to see how the Jazz are not making good decisions for their future, because of the economy or whatever. They play to "stay the course" and could be a reason in those 18/20 good years they won ZERO championships.

Another Jazz fan here. You are exactly right.

[finnegan]

I think you just have to look at the Boozer and MIllsap situation to see how the Jazz are not making good decisions for their future, ...

I disagree with your analysis entirely. If I have to choose between Paul Milsap and Eric Maynor, I am 100% on the Milsap bandwagon. Wait and see what Milsap develops into 2-3 years from now. Giving Milsap to Portland for nothing would have been a terrible mistake.

Just because we havn't won a championship, doesn't diminish the hundreds of millions of dollars in bonus money that the Jazz have made in the playoffs over the last 20 years, nor does it take away from being one of the highest viewed "finals" series when the Jazz nearly overcame the "un-beata-bulls."

They play to "stay the course" and could be a reason in those 18/20 good years they won ZERO championships.

Listen and learn. This is the reason that the Jazz are one of the most consistent teams in the league. If the Grizzilies keep making seemingly desperate moves like signing Allen Iverson, they could become the next New Jersey Nets, (i.e., nba finals one year, and bottom of the league a few years later).

[finnegan]

That said, staying the course has gotten them to the point of being one of the minority teams that consistently has 10k+ season ticket holders annually. That's powerful stuff for ensuring the survival of a small market operation.

Well said. Being nearing the top, but not quite making the summit yet, has not diminished fan excitment at all.

In fact I wonder waht will happen, when the Jazz finally do win a championship, and if fan excitment will drop off a little bit.

You may be aware that the Energy Solutions arena is consider the most difficult arena to play in in the entire NBA. It is not because the fans are rude or out of control, but because the energy and the volume exceeds all others.

[vanjulio]

yeah I may be jealous of that arena and the consistency of the team. Especially since the Jazz are actually from New Orleans!