Spurs consider bidding for Stoudemire?

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Post#1 » by Scarfie » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:51 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

Another intriguing suitor could emerge in the bidding for Phoenix Suns star Amar’e Stoudemire(notes): the San Antonio Spurs.

Multiple league sources say the Spurs’ front office has researched and debated pursuing Stoudemire to play alongside Tim Duncan(notes).

There are questions for the Spurs to answer: Would they be willing to part with the personnel – including possibly Manu Ginobili(notes) – to make a deal happen?


I'm a long time Spurs fan and I think I've patrolled this board before I even made my RealGM account just didn't want to post with my lack of knowledge. But seeing the General Board it gave me some confidence. I think this rumor is just a bunch of hear say and it'll be dead within a few days.
But if you were in the Spurs front office, would you pull the trigger?
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Post#2 » by guardsniper » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:52 am

No if it means Manu and Hill gone. I don't think they would accept Jefferson and Blair. Hopefully it's just rumors.
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Post#3 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:30 am

I'd love Manu on our team even though most Suns' fans would kill me. The guy has it all and is a stud defensively. I'm a buisness man, could care less about the rivalry in past years. I want winners.
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Post#4 » by Scarfie » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:39 am

I don't actually think Amar'e plays much defense and for a defensive orientated team then this move makes no sense at all.
We do have the rights to Tiago Splitter to offer them though, that is if they were keen.
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Post#5 » by Donald Kaufman » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:49 am

As talented as Amar'e is (offensively), I don't like his attitude, nor 6-11 "superstars" that can't average a double-double or be an impact defensively.

Having said that, if Manu were to walk at the end of the season, it couldn't hurt to roll the dice on Stat as a six month rental.

I just don't see it happening though. Whenever trade deadline draws near, there are always a lot of BS trade rumors floating about. This appears to be one of them.

We clearly need to make a move - this is not it.
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Post#6 » by co_laper » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:06 pm

Well I must say that I hope this happens. Nothing againts Manu, but he's easiest to move and has the most value.

When I look at our perimeter, I just don't see a good fit. Parker, Manu, and Jefferson. All are at their best when slashing. I look at teams like Boston and their perimeter lineup complement each other. Rondo is the assist man. Ray is the shooter. Pierce is the slasher. They're balanced. I'd like to blame all of our problems on Richard Jefferson not performing at his usual level, but maybe he's just not a good fit.

Now, moving Manu clears one thing. Our log jam at SG. I think Bogans, Jefferson, and Parker is our most best perimeter lineup. A Manu trade opens minutes for Roger Mason and Michael Finley. We'll be more balanced on our SG/SF rotation.

Amare doesn't solve our defense, but this allows Duncan to concentrate only on defense like David Robinson did. Amare can start being the focus of our offense. Plus, his age (if we resign him) means we'll be contenders for atleast the next 5 years with Parker, Jefferson, and Amare.

If this is NBA LIVE, yeah I'll do it. Unfortunately, I don't think the Spurs are gonna make a trade this big. I can see a trade for.. Camby type. But not for a star player like Amare.
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Post#7 » by TAI8 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:21 pm

co_laper wrote:Well I must say that I hope this happens. Nothing againts Manu, but he's easiest to move and has the most value.

When I look at our perimeter, I just don't see a good fit. Parker, Manu, and Jefferson. All are at their best when slashing. I look at teams like Boston and their perimeter lineup complement each other. Rondo is the assist man. Ray is the shooter. Pierce is the slasher. They're balanced. I'd like to blame all of our problems on Richard Jefferson not performing at his usual level, but maybe he's just not a good fit.

Now, moving Manu clears one thing. Our log jam at SG. I think Bogans, Jefferson, and Parker is our most best perimeter lineup. A Manu trade opens minutes for Roger Mason and Michael Finley. We'll be more balanced on our SG/SF rotation.

Amare doesn't solve our defense, but this allows Duncan to concentrate only on defense like David Robinson did. Amare can start being the focus of our offense. Plus, his age (if we resign him) means we'll be contenders for atleast the next 5 years with Parker, Jefferson, and Amare.

If this is NBA LIVE, yeah I'll do it. Unfortunately, I don't think the Spurs are gonna make a trade this big. I can see a trade for.. Camby type. But not for a star player like Amare.


Richard Jefferson has been a good fit..His offense has done wonders for our offense (going from 13th last year to as high as 4th, highest ever in the Duncan era)..Our problem is DEFENSE...which is currently ranked 10th. When was the last time a Spurs defense was out of the top 5? I'll tell you when...the year we tanked for Duncan.

Our defense is not the same because of two things: 1) small ball lineup that Pop uses out of necessity and 2) weak defensive bigs..We go small because we have no other choice (Finley is still out)..We need a competent backup SF who can defend reasonably well that way we don't have to play Parker and Hill at the same time and Ginobili out of position..Hill cannot defend players that routinely have 4+ inches on him..Ginobili cannot defend players that are bigger and bulkier than him..We need a good interior defender who can help protect the basket because Bonner, Blair, and Dyess are not getting it done..Duncan is the lone defensive big but at 33 he can't do it all by himself..Stoudemire solves none of those things..
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Post#8 » by SApuro_ » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:45 pm

The fact that this has gotten out to the general public means its not going to happen. Spurs are a sneaky organization that makes deals that no one sees coming.

What this does do is put everything on the table. The FO knows this squad isn't going to make it happen this year and has an unpresident about of tradeable assets. First the TP rumor a few wks ago now Manu.

This could be a year where there are major changes in the spurs core group.
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Post#9 » by StClairBandit » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:56 am

just like when we were bidding for artest right ? this happens every year lol
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Post#10 » by Donald Kaufman » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:44 am

When's the last time we made a big move mid-season? Kurt Thomas doesn't count. It never happens.
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Post#11 » by JasonDaPsycho » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:24 pm

Manu in the current suns doesn't seem to fit too well. If we have him here, that means we'll have to move Leandro Barbosa.
And as a Suns, Spurs and Balir fan, I highly doubt that Blair can fit into the Suns run-and-gun system. Keeping Blair for the Spurs means keeping and energy guy which the veteran-filled Spurs needed totally makes sense

Amar'e Stoudemire may not be happy in SA since Tim Duncan, a better post player, will take more shots than Amar'e. Although I'm very sure that Tim wouldn't mind at all (just admit it, he's not going anywhere and he'll get paid as much for the next contract), but the chemistry is gonna drain a little. Plus, Amar'e's lack of commitment on D and the boards will be a huge concern for the Spurs, mostly known for its "if you shoot, I'll make it miss" system.

As much as I would like to see Amar'e leave the Suns, I don't think the Spurs, another one of my fav teams, will be a good destination.
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Post#12 » by TAI8 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:45 pm

Might as well close the book on STAT to SA...

On Wednesday, Gregg Popovich was asked about a Yahoo! Sports report that the Spurs had “researched and debated” getting involved in the bidding for Amar'e Stoudemire.

“What the heck is Yahoo?” Popovich said. “Is it one of those computer things? Is that like Twittering?

“It's that time of year, I guess. Trade deadline. Everybody's going to come up with something.”


http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64321/20100128/popovich_dismisses_amare_report_by_not_knowing_what_yahoo_is/

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Post#13 » by Donald Kaufman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:18 pm

Not surprising...
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Post#14 » by Nolan » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:55 am

Amare really isn't what we need. We need a defensive presence at center not more scoring.
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Post#15 » by Donald Kaufman » Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:15 am

I'd prefer Camby over Stat.
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Post#16 » by TAI8 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:41 am

I would love to get Camby here..We might have to throw in Blair to get him though but in the end it would be worth it as he would be the missing piece to the puzzle..
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Post#17 » by Donald Kaufman » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:16 am

As crazy as it may sound, I'd part with a package involving Ginobili before Blair.
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Post#18 » by TAI8 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:24 am

That's not crazy at all...Richard Jefferson and George Hill make Ginobili expendable and if it takes him to get the player that we need then so be it..I will miss Ginobili though.. :(
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Post#19 » by Nolan » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:56 am

wone wrote:I would love to get Camby here..We might have to throw in Blair to get him though but in the end it would be worth it as he would be the missing piece to the puzzle..


There's no way i'd throw in Blair. Camby's an expiring, the most i'd give the Clippers for him is our expirings and a couple second rounders.
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Post#20 » by Donald Kaufman » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:36 am

He cost the Clippers a couple of 2nd rounders two seasons ago, so yeah that's all the Clips should expect for him.

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