OT: LEAFS make huge moves, MLSE willing to spend after all?

Devon_s_biring · Post #1 » by **Devon_s_biring** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:14 pm

Although not 100% confirmed, the leafs have made the following trades:

The Calgary Flames have traded defenceman Dion Phaneuf, forward Fredrik Sjostrom, and defenceman Keith Aulie to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for forwards Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers and defenceman Ian White.

http://tsn.ca/

and not as certain as the above trade:

Toskala for JS Giguere

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_ ... burke.html

These deals have the leafs eating a lot of money, possibly even going into the tax. I have no clue as to how the CBA works in the NHL, but if the Leafs go into the nhl's luxury tax with support from MLSE, how does this impact the decision to do the same with the Raptors?

Basically, with these huge moves for the leafs, are the raptors less likely to be allowed to go into the tax ???

Korr · Post #2 » by **Korr** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:17 pm

Give BC a call see what he thinks.

dagger · Post #3 » by **dagger** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:17 pm

Since there is a hard salary cap in the NHL, I don't know how you come to the conclusion that MLSE is "willing to spend".

There is no such thing as paying luxury tax in the NHL now.

It has no impact on the Raptors whatsoever. It does show the value of having competent general managers - or at least guys with big stones - running the two teams, as opposed to Babcock and Ferguson who were junior guys and comparatively timid.

Raptor/LakerFan · Post #4 » by **Raptor/LakerFan** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:20 pm

The only thing that these trade mean is that you won't be seeing the Raptors getting much attention in the upoming weeks.

Other than that the Leafs will still suck, they have no scorers now.

Mak · Post #5 » by **Mak** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm

Leafs suck pretty bad, I don't know why you would start a thread about them here?

Death Knight · Post #6 » by **Death Knight** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm

Acquiring Phaneuf is very impressive, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still "GOLF LEAFS GOLF"

youngLion · Post #7 » by **youngLion** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm

Phaneuf? ****' A I'll take that.

Dr Octagon · Post #8 » by **Dr Octagon** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:22 pm

F**k the Leafs.

kassian · Post #9 » by **kassian** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:22 pm

Phaneuf to the Laffs? Damn.

Winggfly · Post #10 » by **Winggfly** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:23 pm

Steal trade IMO, because they didnt give up any young guys, and also all those guys that Burke traded werent his, so its all good.

Devon_s_biring · Post #11 » by **Devon_s_biring** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:23 pm

I thought the NHL would have a luxury tax system somewhat like the NBA and i stand corrected that they have no such thing.

I do have a strong feeling however, that the Raptors will be having a lot of games moved to tsn2, so people can be disappointed by a new Leafs team ... again ...

Avenger · Post #12 » by **Avenger** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:26 pm

dagger wrote:Since there is a hard salary cap in the NHL, I don't know how you come to the conclusion that MLSE is "willing to spend".

There is no such thing as paying luxury tax in the NHL now.

It has no impact on the Raptors whatsoever. It does show the value of having competent general managers - or at least guys with big stones - running the two teams, as opposed to Babcock and Ferguson who were junior guys and comparatively timid.

Well, there are loopholes in their CBA just like ours, Burke can take some over the hill veterans and bury their contracts in the minors, very few teams have the financial backing to do that.

latino469 · Post #13 » by **latino469** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:29 pm

wooooooooo

Although the leafs are still bad , Dion Phaneuf is my favourite Canadian defensemen

I heard we also traded Vesa Toskala for JS Giguere
and Burke is not done yet.

Things are starting to get exciting

Komodo · Post #14 » by **Komodo** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:29 pm

It's exciting times for the Leafs today, I've been following this like a hawk so far. Awesome news.

DreamTeam09 · Post #15 » by **DreamTeam09** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:29 pm

Dion Phaneuf, Kaberle, and Schenn should form a good defensive group... They still suck asses tho, buh that was a good move

Nothingface · Post #16 » by **Nothingface** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:30 pm

Obviously if the Leafs pick up these players it means MLSE is going to trade all Raptors core players for scrubs. Mostly likely they will keep the Raptors around to clean the Leafs dressing room.

Jeez, why do Raptors fans have such an inferiority complex about hockey. The puckheads are out to get us!

Why it it beyond the comprehension of some that MLSE wants both the Leafs and Raptors to succeed? Have they actually done anything to prove otherwise???

Devon_s_biring · Post #17 » by **Devon_s_biring** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:34 pm

Nothingface wrote:Obviously if the Leafs pick up these players it means MLSE is going to trade all Raptors core players for scrubs. Mostly likely they will keep the Raptors around to clean the Leafs dressing room.

Jeez, why do Raptors fans have such an inferiority complex about hockey. The puckheads are out to get us!

Why it it beyond the comprehension of some that MLSE wants both the Leafs and Raptors to succeed? Have they actually done anything to prove otherwise???

See the TSN2 fiasco, and record low ratings for the Raptors

Harold_and_Kumar · Post #18 » by **Harold_and_Kumar** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:35 pm

Great Trade ... sleeper player in Aulie who's still a young good defenceman

Upgrayedd · Post #19 » by **Upgrayedd** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:40 pm

Devon_s_biring wrote:
Nothingface wrote:Obviously if the Leafs pick up these players it means MLSE is going to trade all Raptors core players for scrubs. Mostly likely they will keep the Raptors around to clean the Leafs dressing room.

Jeez, why do Raptors fans have such an inferiority complex about hockey. The puckheads are out to get us!

Why it it beyond the comprehension of some that MLSE wants both the Leafs and Raptors to succeed? Have they actually done anything to prove otherwise???

See the TSN2 fiasco, and record low ratings for the Raptors

The TSN2 fiasco was Rogers fault, and the record low ratings were because the team was bad. Most Canadians would rather watch a bad hockey team than a bad basketball team.

Devon_s_biring · Post #20 » by **Devon_s_biring** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:48 pm

MLSE gave tsn Raptors TV rights, tsn went and put a majority of games on tsn2 and used the raptors as leverage against Rogers ... MLSE allowed it to happen by selling the rights w/ or w/o knowledge of what would occur and thereby left a lot of us without a legitimate and quality means of watching Raptors basketball. MLSE cost Raptors fans ...