Official Transaction Ideas thread

[daddyfivestar]

people, now this is the way not to get your trade thread merged with the trade thread. make it after the trade dead line. good job OP.

But Snaq said it was OK. Now you're just going good cop bad cop. No bueno.

[microfib4thewin]

Not trading big for small is overrated.

[chefy]

I say we should go after mardy collins or craig smjth in the offseason...both can bring toughness and good defense for us. plus they're cheap!

[daddyfivestar]

Smith is a baller. He'd be a strong replacement for Powell.

[ALL HAIL]

I say we should go after mardy collins or craig smjth in the offseason...both can bring toughness and good defense for us. plus they're cheap!

Agreed. Although Powell may get the edge over Smith (who is better), because of his "place" on the team and experience. Otherwise I think Smith is needed on this team and Collins can be good at SF if he can facilitate but not have to guard PGs full-time (or at all).

[ALL HAIL]

Sometime before July 1st:

Trade Calderon to Lakers for Luke Walton, Sasha Vujacic, and a 1st Rd Pick.
http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

Good for Raptors because it saves them four million a year for the next three seasons. Bad for the Raps because they have to watch 'Heavy Tongue" for the next three seasons.

Good for Lakers because they get a PG who can pass and shoot. Bad for Lakers because they get a PG who is bad on defense and VERY expensive (10 mill per).

Raptors proceed to sign one of many cheap backup PGs (Ridnour, Farmar, etc).

Lakers proceed to sign one of many cheap backup SFs (B. Simmons, D. Wilkins, etc).

Would Raptor fans sign off?

[Jajwanda]

Foye had an excellent game by the way against Chicago today. Shades of Chauncey version 2 indeed although he won't be able to guard lightning fast PGs. Then again he'll probably post them up anyway and tire them out. He's a heavy player.

PG- Foye, Farmar, Pargo (dirt cheap)
SG- Bryant, Brown
SF- Artest, Ariza
PF- Gasol, Odom, 2nd rounder
C- Bynum, Eminu

That second unit with one of the starting big men in it is ridiculous.

[daddyfivestar]

How did Ariza become a Laker again?

[The Skyhook]

Who do you guys feel would be a better fit for this team out of Randy Roye and Raymond Felton.

[dafunky1]

Heres a good one , i think

Bulls trade- Kirk Hinrich, Joakim Noah, Charolette's pick(from the Tyrus Thomas trade

Bulls get- Andrew Bynum

Why- This trade now makes the Lakers unbeatable, you guys get Jokim who will fit perfect in your system and you now get the pt guard you always wanted.Now Pau dont have to worry as much defending the post and Noah will gobble up all the rebounds.Plus Pau get all the touches he needs

For Bulls- We get our low post presence and now we dont have to chase Bosh.We go sign Joe Johnson and create our own big 3

Bulls new lineup
pg- Rose
sg-JJ
c-Bynum
pf-Taj
sf-Deng

A lineup that could very well meet the Lakers in the 2011 finals

[daddyfivestar]

You ^ had Bulls 2010 1st in his other trade on the trade board, now switched to that "future" Charlotte pick which will probably be 2012 or '13.

[ALL HAIL]

Bynum shouldn't be traded for anything less than a STUD facilitator:

Think OJ Mayo, Brandon Roy or even James Harden.

MY POINT: Hinrich and Noah ain't enough. Noah is cool. But Hinrich ain't STUD enough.

The deal I see a small opening for is Steph Curry.

If the Warriors are in a position to get John Wall (a possibility) I think they really CONSIDER playing both Curry and Wall with Ellis but realize they've got to get bigger.

If they were indeed to secure John Wall the likelihood of a market for trading Monta Ellis would be nill.

That leaves Steph Curry as the "unexpected" potential odd man out, a guy they would never think of trading NOW, but with the much hyped John Wall coming in and everyone "wheeling and dealing", stranger things have happened:

Stephen Curry, Biedrins, Maggette, and Turiaf

for

Pau Gasol, Walton, and Vujacic

I can see this happening ONLY if the Warriors get John Wall. Other mitigating factors include Biedrins continuing to have an "off" year, and/or Maggette and Ellis both proving to be untradeable this summer for any thing of value.

still dreamin' ... :

PG - Hughes - Curry (Hughes starts to set defensive tone, Curry finishes)
SG - Bryant - M. Collins (Versatile defender, passer, bad jader)
C - Bynum - Biedrins (Good rebounder, shot blocker, NO offensive moves)
PF - Odom - Turiaf (a good guy to have around, especially to push Biedrins)
SF - Artest - Maggette ("Cedric Ceballos" off the bench for 25 mins per)

The third five:

PG - Fisher ("Lindsey Hunter-role", mentoring Curry, Collins, Critt, and Graham)
SG - Crittenton (battles M. Collins and Hughes for "auxiliary" defensive guard spot)
C - Mbenga (still a great third center)
PF - Powell (battles with Turiaf, the guy he replaced, for backup 4)
SF - S. Graham (pushes Critt, M. Collins, and Hughes)

DEEP, DEep, deep.

[daddyfivestar]

I like the idea of splitting the MLE like Orlando did this year (Bass 4.0 and Barnes 1.6).

Estimating the MLE at 5.55 next year:
Maybe Foye 4.00 to take over the PG duties, and Carney 1.55 to back up Ron Ron and Kobe.

Don't think the Wiz are matching a long term deal starting at 4 mil for Foye. Carney is UFA and that would nearly double his pay from Philly, so they'd both say Yes.

[ALL HAIL]

Don't think the Wiz are matching a long term deal starting at 4 mil for Foye.

How long term?

I can't believe most of you guys are down with having another guy on the squad signed to a big contract.

So do you wanna sign Foye for six years, 24 mill? Even five years, 20 mill is too much of a commitment.

Eff signing these dudes for long term when they aren't provin.

Say what you want about Vujacic but his contract is up next year. A three year deal is the way to go. I'd more than likely sign him for three years, 12 mill ... that's it.

I think there are better, more dynamic deals out there though.

[daddyfivestar]

I love the Odom deal and that should be the standard for LA. 3 yrs with a 4th year team opt, partially guaranteed.

For Foye, I'd do 4.00 at 10.5% for 4.00, 4.42, 4.84, 5.26 (team opt, partial guarantee like LO)

Foye proved more in 2.5 yrs in Minny than Vujacic or Walton has period. If they had not traded him well before hiring Rambis, he'd be loving the Tri right now.

[ALL HAIL]

Foye has only proven that he is inconsistent. I think he's a good fit but he hasn't proven anything to me. That contract is fair I guess ... I just think there are better DEALS out there.

I do this as a FALLBACK.

[The_Commish]

D-Wade for MLE! (then Buss can pay him separately without the NBA knowing about 10 mill. more a year)

[Jajwanda]

I still think it'll be Shannon Brown when it's all said and done for these reasons:

1- We're going to be paying him 3.5-4m a year most likely if not slightly more which is not suitable for someone playing limited minutes especially with the tax.
2- His tools for the PG position:

- Defense: Overall excellent and will continue to get slightly better.
- Ball-handling: Good enough to get the ball across safely for a half-court set.
- Shooting: Improving and a capable spot-up shooter. Not great at shooting threes covered but that's alright.
- Passing: Good enough to make the post feed and besides Fisher sucks at this anyway.
- Cutting: Excellent and will improve.
- Finishing: A world of difference compared to Fisher.
- Pressure on opposing player overall: A task to guard him with the cuts he makes, his explosive ability, and strength.

His triangle knowledge isn't perfect and he's shooting a bit too much but he is in the SG role. He'll make his mistakes but his net positive is a clear improvement over Fisher. It takes time to play in the triangle for some, it took forever for Odom. There is no reason that we should be unwilling to start Brown when we started a SG in a slow PG's body for so many years.

It's the most cost-effective solution as well. In addition I'd sign Steve Blake to a deal starting at 3m as the backup or re-sign Farmar to have a true PG. Adding a third PG like an Acie Law for cheap or drafting a third one can only help and in the worst-case scenario we'll trade Vujajic's expiring for a longer contract without much ado.

I think the budget will be about 7.1m or so this off-season figuring that we probably don't want to have a payroll above 91m. The addition to Brown's salary+Blake knocks out about 4.5m. That leaves 2.6m for cheap front court solutions and a veteran SF backup.

[The Skyhook]

I don't like the idea of Brown as our starting point. He seems to struggle as a point guard.

[VIPER8382]

Lakers Receive:
OJ Mayo
Andris Biedrins
Mike Conley

Lakers Trade:
Pau Gasol

Lakers Depth:
Mayo / Conley / Brown
Bryant / Mayo / Brown
Artest / Bryant / Walton
Odom / Biedrins / Powell
Bynum / Biedrins / Mbenga

Lakers Summary:
The Lakers turn Gasol into 3 starting caliber players. All 3 are 23 or younger to be added to Bynum (22) and Brown (24) to give the Lakers a much brighter post Kobe future. The Lakers are certainly about right now though. So how can trading one of the better big men in the game be a good idea? Well the Lakers have Odom to step into Gasol's vacated PF spot, and Bynum should be noticably more productive without Gasol, and he will get more minutes also. So some of Gasol's minutes are downgraded to Biedrins, but some go to Odom (who also seems to play better when starting), and some go to a more productive Bynum. That is still a net loss in the big man rotation, but what about at the guards and SF ? Well instead of having around 75 mpg split between Fisher, Farmar, Walton, Vujacic, and Brown, those minutes will go to Mayo, Conley, and Brown. The upgrade at PG-SF is substantial. Also this allows LA to let Farmar walk, and not spend the MLE ! The Lakers get younger and completely balance their roster without spending any more than what Gasol would have cost !


Warriors Receive:
Amare Stoudemire (resigned to additional 3 yrs ($19, $21, $23), giving a total of 4 yrs about $81 million)
Pau Gasol

Warriors Trade:
Monta Ellis
Andris Biedrins
Anthony Randolph
Vladimir Radmanovic
2010 2nd

Warriors Depth:
(Wall) / Curry / Watson
(Turner) / Curry / Morrow
Maggette / Azubukie
Stoudemire / Wright
Gasol / Turiaf

Warriors Summary:
This trade works best if the Warriors get #1 or #2 in the draft. If that is the case their backcout will be Curry along with Wall or Turner to go with a dominant frontcourt. This trade would make Golden State not only a true contender, but would make them a potential dynasty. The downside is that their new frontcourt is quite expensive especially when Gasol's extension (with trade kicker) kicks in paying him around $22 million each of the last 3 years of his deal. I think it is well worth the money though, as Golden State fans would go crazy in support of their new contending team. I think Stoudemire would take this option as he ends up with a lot of money, and on a true contender where he doesn't get overshadowed like he would alongside Wade or Lebron. Also the relatively short term nature of the contract greatly increases his chances of cashing in on one last big contract (injuries may catch up with him as he ages).


Grizzlies Receive:
Monta Ellis
BJ Mullens
2010 Suns 1st (via OKC)

Grizzlies Trade:
OJ Mayo
Hasheem Thabeet
Mike Conley
2010 Lakers 1st

Grizzlies Depth Chart:
Ellis / FA (Farmar)
Brewer / Young
Gay / Carroll
Randolph / Arthur
Gasol / Haddadi / Mullens
+3 1st rounders

Grizzlies Summary:
Grizzlies complete their deal, adding Conley to move up in the first round and free up some money to replace him with a cheaper alternative signed to an affordable long term deal (Farmar comes to mind). Or they can draft a PG and just save the money. The trade works without the Thabeet for Mullens/Suns 1st swap, but I thought it benefited both teams, so I added it.


Suns Receive:
Anthony Randolph
Vladimir Radmanovic
2010 Lakers 1st (via Memphis)
2010 Warriors 2nd

Suns Summary:
The Suns prove the world wrong, getting one last playoff run out of Amare then trading him for a better package in the end.


Thunder Receive:
Hasheem Thabeet

Thunder Trade:
BJ Mullens
2010 Suns 1st

Thunder Summary:
The Thunder upgrade their developmental C for the cost of $3.5 million in cap space and a fairly low 1st. Thabeet would be a perfect C for OKC if he fulfills his potential.