Scola and free agency
Re: Scola and free agency
- PocketRockets
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 914
- And1: 9
- Joined: Mar 14, 2008
Re: Scola and free agency
I agree that it will be a long drawn out process. We'll prob just match the offer of another team. Players always think they deserve too much. I like scola but not at the expense of eliminating the chance of us getting a player that CAN help us win a championship in the future. If another team offers him mad money, I wouldn't mind running with Hill at the 4 spot for a couple of seasons. Especially with the way Morey and our staff finds talent, there's no reason to give him more than the MLE.
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,763
- And1: 46
- Joined: Nov 22, 2001
- Location: Screwston, TX
Re: Scola and free agency
Great to hear but who honestly thought they'd let him walk?
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,748
- And1: 355
- Joined: Mar 07, 2009
Re: Scola and free agency
PocketRockets wrote:I agree that it will be a long drawn out process. We'll prob just match the offer of another team. Players always think they deserve too much. I like scola but not at the expense of eliminating the chance of us getting a player that CAN help us win a championship in the future. If another team offers him mad money, I wouldn't mind running with Hill at the 4 spot for a couple of seasons. Especially with the way Morey and our staff finds talent, there's no reason to give him more than the MLE.
+1
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,346
- And1: 765
- Joined: Jan 08, 2010
- Location: Kingdom of Heaven
-
Re: Scola and free agency
Scola will get more than MLE money. my estimate: 25M/3 years or more.
Re: Scola and free agency
- Smash3
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,783
- And1: 9,982
- Joined: Apr 17, 2009
Re: Scola and free agency
28,5/4yr Sounds reasonable with incentives
but knowing the market someone will offer him 30mil or something for 3yr.

8
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
Re: Scola and free agency
- Smash3
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,783
- And1: 9,982
- Joined: Apr 17, 2009
Re: Scola and free agency
Next season:
Cp3/Lowry
Martin/Buddinger
Ariza/?
Luis/Hill
Yao/Gortat or Camby?
Dream scenario lol
Cp3/Lowry
Martin/Buddinger
Ariza/?
Luis/Hill
Yao/Gortat or Camby?
Dream scenario lol
8
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,346
- And1: 765
- Joined: Jan 08, 2010
- Location: Kingdom of Heaven
-
Re: Scola and free agency
So Brooks/Battier/Jeffries picks for Paul (pipedream in itself), but what's left to trade for Gortat then?
Camby at MLE is more realistic, although very much up in the air he'd sign for that and he could probably sign anywhere for MLE.
Camby at MLE is more realistic, although very much up in the air he'd sign for that and he could probably sign anywhere for MLE.
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 825
- And1: 0
- Joined: Jan 17, 2009
Re: Scola and free agency
i believe Scola will be looking at Ariza-level kind of deal.
it must be noted that with a decreasing cap-level, Scola cannot ask for the sky too.
Manu just got lucky with his 40m 3 yr deal. Seriously, with his kind of injury history and age, i will not give him that. I thought it was a bad piece of business for SA since it would restrict their options.
And i agree with some u all that Scola is not on the young side. While Scola is valuable to the rockets, i don't think we will break the bank for him. 3 years 27m deal for him. That would be my final offer. nothing more.
let's not forget there is Lowry we NEED to resign.
Lowry i believe will be looking at 4m+ per year.
Since he is young, i believe the rockets should lock him down for a long period.
it must be noted that with a decreasing cap-level, Scola cannot ask for the sky too.
Manu just got lucky with his 40m 3 yr deal. Seriously, with his kind of injury history and age, i will not give him that. I thought it was a bad piece of business for SA since it would restrict their options.
And i agree with some u all that Scola is not on the young side. While Scola is valuable to the rockets, i don't think we will break the bank for him. 3 years 27m deal for him. That would be my final offer. nothing more.
let's not forget there is Lowry we NEED to resign.
Lowry i believe will be looking at 4m+ per year.
Since he is young, i believe the rockets should lock him down for a long period.
Re: Scola and free agency
- Aaron Brooks
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,148
- And1: 629
- Joined: Jan 14, 2008
Re: Scola and free agency
YaoZaii wrote:i believe Scola will be looking at Ariza-level kind of deal.
it must be noted that with a decreasing cap-level, Scola cannot ask for the sky too.
Manu just got lucky with his 40m 3 yr deal. Seriously, with his kind of injury history and age, i will not give him that. I thought it was a bad piece of business for SA since it would restrict their options.
And i agree with some u all that Scola is not on the young side. While Scola is valuable to the rockets, i don't think we will break the bank for him. 3 years 27m deal for him. That would be my final offer. nothing more.
let's not forget there is Lowry we NEED to resign.
Lowry i believe will be looking at 4m+ per year.
Since he is young, i believe the rockets should lock him down for a long period.
I think Scolas contract should be incentive based, have his base contract be 7 mil a year, +1.mil if he plays 75+ games, +.5mil if we make the playoffs and +1mil if he makes the all-star team for a total of 9.5 mil/year, but 8.5 is the more realistic scenario.
Lowry should get 3 mil a year, but I'm afraid some team might throw more money at him and we'll be forced to match.
Teams that NEED a PG:
Knicks - if they land a max FA, they can't afford him
Teams that COULD use a PG:
Heat - below average starting PG, but fits better with Wade and is on a rookie contract
Kings - less and less likely with Udrih's play as of late
76ers - though they have a promising rookie in Holiday
Raptors - that would be a lot of money invested in their PG depth
Wizards - Arenas insurance?
T-Wolves - we know how much they love PGs
Lakers - Fisher is on the decline but they also have Farmer and Brown
baki wrote:Harden is essentially a very good role player, he's not a franchise player.
Re: Scola and free agency
- TMACFORMVP
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 18,947
- And1: 161
- Joined: Jun 30, 2006
- Location: 9th Seed
Re: Scola and free agency
He'll definitely get a larger deal than the one Ariza got. I mean, he's averaging 16/9 on 51% from the floor. And since the all-star break, he's been doing 19/9 on 52%, (21/10.5 in April). Other players to do at least 15/8 on 50% are Bynum, Smith, Lopez, Amare, Bogut, Duncan, Bosh, Gasol, Boozer, Lee, and Howard. I mean, that's a considerable amount of players, but all of them are considered the best big man in the game.
I think something around 8-9M starting would be reasonable. He hustles, he can rebound, is very skilled in the post, but a potent mid-range shooter that's essentially capable of playing next to any player because of that skill-set. Is he worth that much at this age? I'm not sure, I think his play is worth it, but with the market value likely to be inflated when teams miss out on LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and the rest, they might tend to look elsewhere.
I think something around 8-9M starting would be reasonable. He hustles, he can rebound, is very skilled in the post, but a potent mid-range shooter that's essentially capable of playing next to any player because of that skill-set. Is he worth that much at this age? I'm not sure, I think his play is worth it, but with the market value likely to be inflated when teams miss out on LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and the rest, they might tend to look elsewhere.
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Ballboy
- Posts: 11
- And1: 0
- Joined: Apr 05, 2010
Re: Scola and free agency
I think we should try our best to retain him. Unless someone throws 10+ mil for like 5 seasons, of course.
IMO we'd probably have to overpay him a little bit to retain him, with all the teams having space and all. I think the best way to go would be to give him a Ginoboli-esque contract, overpay him yearly while having fewer years. Though it's not likely that Scola's health will be a concern anytime soon. He has 0 athleticism to begin with, and the way he plays, he's not likely to receive serious injuries.
I think that we can accept up to 10 million per year and up to four years. More than that will be overpaying too much.
IMO we'd probably have to overpay him a little bit to retain him, with all the teams having space and all. I think the best way to go would be to give him a Ginoboli-esque contract, overpay him yearly while having fewer years. Though it's not likely that Scola's health will be a concern anytime soon. He has 0 athleticism to begin with, and the way he plays, he's not likely to receive serious injuries.
I think that we can accept up to 10 million per year and up to four years. More than that will be overpaying too much.
Re: Scola and free agency
- moofs
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,077
- And1: 537
- Joined: Apr 17, 2006
- Location: "if the warriors win the title this season ill tattoo their logo in my di ck" -- 000001
- Contact:
Re: Scola and free agency
I'm sticking with no more than 4 years, no higher average annual payment than 10m
Ideal is 7.5-8.5 over 3. (as if the ideal case usually gets to happen)
Expected is 9 over 3 with a team or player option.
Ideal is 7.5-8.5 over 3. (as if the ideal case usually gets to happen)
Expected is 9 over 3 with a team or player option.
Morey 2020.
Q:How are they experts when they're always wrong?
A:Ask a stock market analyst or your financial advisor
Q:How are they experts when they're always wrong?
A:Ask a stock market analyst or your financial advisor
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Ballboy
- Posts: 11
- And1: 0
- Joined: Apr 05, 2010
Re: Scola and free agency
moofs wrote:I'm sticking with no more than 4 years, no higher average annual payment than 10m
Ideal is 7.5-8.5 over 3. (as if the ideal case usually gets to happen)
me wrote:I think that we can accept up to 10 million per year and up to four years. More than that will be overpaying too much.


Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Junior
- Posts: 288
- And1: 13
- Joined: Mar 22, 2010
Re: Scola and free agency
I still think that he will end up getting about $8 mil. Like Landry a few years ago, his RFA status will keep his wage artificially low.
Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,947
- And1: 225
- Joined: Jun 22, 2008
Re: Scola and free agency
I think Scola is gonna get a deal similar to LMA, Andrea. You telling me that Scola isnt worth around 10 million per, and those guy do?
Re: Scola and free agency
- moofs
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,077
- And1: 537
- Joined: Apr 17, 2006
- Location: "if the warriors win the title this season ill tattoo their logo in my di ck" -- 000001
- Contact:
Re: Scola and free agency
Bargs is overpaid like a mofo, and LMA isn't much better. Neither of them deserved their deals, for sure, ESPECIALLY not Bargnani. It's not our fault that Toronto's GM didn't know what he was doing (though it may cause us problems).
Morey 2020.
Q:How are they experts when they're always wrong?
A:Ask a stock market analyst or your financial advisor
Q:How are they experts when they're always wrong?
A:Ask a stock market analyst or your financial advisor
Re: Scola and free agency
- MaxRider
- RealGM
- Posts: 44,473
- And1: 5,805
- Joined: Jun 08, 2005
- Location: Choke City
-
Re: Scola and free agency
starting 8 millions for 5 years
Re: Scola and free agency
- aznkillabeezZz
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,309
- And1: 3
- Joined: Nov 14, 2005
Re: Scola and free agency
He's going to get at least $10 million since alot of teams have cap room, and some top free agents like ginobili, amare are already resigned.

Re: Scola and free agency
-
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 761
- And1: 0
- Joined: May 24, 2004
Re: Scola and free agency
I think Scola is resigned and he and Brooks will be dealy for Bosh and Caldoron!!
Listen to the lunatic inside you
"You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it."
-- Robin Williams (1952- ), American actor and comedian
"You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it."
-- Robin Williams (1952- ), American actor and comedian
Re: Scola and free agency
- Smash3
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,783
- And1: 9,982
- Joined: Apr 17, 2009
Re: Scola and free agency
We have to face it he'll get a deal around 10mil. Blame Portland,Tor,Spurs,
8
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo