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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#181 » by sec-106 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:42 pm

steveb21 wrote:So if basically the same team failed so miserably with the Princeton would the Triangle be any better?


This team is already better for one obvious reason.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#182 » by The Guilty Party » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:50 pm

bballin76 wrote:I don't want a fresh start coach. What if they're as bad as Jordan? Ever consider that? When you bring in an unknown, they can fail just as badly too.

All I want is a proven coach with a winning record that can teach young players how to play the game and focuses on defense. We aren't contending for a championship or anything special here...a retread is just fine.


What happened to Larry Brown in NY? Proven coach who was canned after a year because the team was beyond terrible. I'm not saying NY was all his fault but you can fall flat with anyone. My point is this... I would at least rather go down taking a chance on a fresh coach who might actually be good rather than go down with a guy like Sam Mitchell. This is the same reasoning that many of us were against Eddie Jordan. We knew what we were getting and we also knew his offense wouldn't work with a team who can't shoot (I'm not even sure it works with a team who can).
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#183 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:28 pm

Whatever the coach, we have to stick with him. So this hire has to be THE one. We said that last year, but we hired the coach completely the opposite to our objectives.

Thibodeau is said to be looking for a head coaching job in the NBA. He's been an assisstant for a long time. I'd like to see what Thibodeau can do with the Sixers.

3 Years(With the 4th as a team option) paying him 1.5 mill per year.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#184 » by bballin76 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:46 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:What happened to Larry Brown in NY? Proven coach who was canned after a year because the team was beyond terrible. I'm not saying NY was all his fault but you can fall flat with anyone. My point is this... I would at least rather go down taking a chance on a fresh coach who might actually be good rather than go down with a guy like Sam Mitchell. This is the same reasoning that many of us were against Eddie Jordan. We knew what we were getting and we also knew his offense wouldn't work with a team who can't shoot (I'm not even sure it works with a team who can).


Do you think that would happen with LB here?

You take a risk no matter who you hire, but if you choose the right coach retread it should work out just fine. At the end of the day, players win games.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#185 » by dond » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:07 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Dond... Michael Jordan won six championship rings in his time and was the greatest ever to play the game of basketball. If i'm a young player and he speaks I listen. Of course this is strictly related to game situations. Not front office choices.
The same goes for Doug Collins.. I think he's a very good coach and would really help this team.



Well, take a look at his last gig (Washington) and you might change your mind. He and Michael preached and criticized that team until management ran them both out of there. I do not remember all the details but it was an ugly scene, especially for Michael Jordan.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#186 » by The Guilty Party » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:15 pm

bballin76 wrote:Do you think that would happen with LB here?

You take a risk no matter who you hire, but if you choose the right coach retread it should work out just fine. At the end of the day, players win games.


No, I don't think it would happen here with LB because he has a solid background for taking bad teams and turning them into something respectable. My point isn't that LB would be a problem but just as you said, he could fall flat. You're absolutely right though, players are far more of a factor into wins and losses than a coach. I use Doc Rivers as the best example for that. One year, he coaches the Celtics to the second worst record in the league and "Fire Doc" chants are flowing in Boston. The next year, he coaches the Celtics to a title and suddenly he's great again. The difference of course was having Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen instead of Gerald Green and Al Jefferson.

My preference is Bill Laimbeer for a ton of reasons. He could absolutely fall flat on his face and be terrible but I'd rather see what he can do on the sidelines over a guy like Sam Mitchell or Lawrence Frank.
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I'm a little shocked not to read anything about Byron Scott being in the running for this job. Does Stefanski feel that the Jordan Era was THAT bad that he can't go the old NJN route once again?
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#187 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:16 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:I don't love the idea of Doug Collins being hired but I'd take him over Sam Mitchell. How the hell is Sam Mitchell's name even coming up for this job? It blows me away that we'll look to hire another retread in hopes of striking gold rather than going with someone like Mark Jackson or Laimbeer or even Aaron McKie. Give me the unknown at this point over the retreads that keep being talked about.

There's a good reason that guys like Van Gundy and Fratello and Johnson are talking about the game instead of coaching it... it's because they weren't successful at their jobs. Van Gundy couldn't get Houston past the first round, Johnson coached the Mavs to two memorable collapses, and Fratello has been riding Hubie Brown's coattails since he was an assistant with him in Atlanta. Enough already with the recycled garbage.


This is what happens when you have a loser like Stiff making the decisions. He's only going to dig the team into a deeper hole as long as he is here. It's a shame, because in 2011 it will mark the 10 year anniversary of the last time this team was truly a legit championship contender.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#188 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:20 am

It looks like Dwayne Casey is about to be free for interviews starting tomorrow. The Spurs are up 21 on the Mavs in Game 6. If Stefanski is still here running the show because Larry Brown has declined the job, I'd have to put Casey as the frontrunner for the job. Stefanski interviewed him twice last year with all of the candidates essentially being the same. Of course, I'm still waiting for Byron Scott's name to pop-up. Not that I want Scott but I recall Stefanski once upon a time making a comment at a press conference years ago about how "his" guys had jobs throughout the league with Scott being one of the guys he mentioned. I'll see if I find that quote.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#189 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:32 am

LB is free for interviews, Dwayne Casey is now free for interviews, and Kevin Pritchard might soon be available for the GM job now that the Blazers have been bounced. All has been quiet on that front for a month but with the Blazers' season officially over, it'll be interesting to see what kind of news comes out of Portland.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#190 » by panacea » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:39 am

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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#191 » by freshie2 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:54 am

Do you think they wait until after the lottery to make their decision?? If you get candidate A, it probably doesn't matter, but if they draft a big with 'potential' vs a more established swing, does it make a difference??
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#192 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:04 pm

freshie2 wrote:Do you think they wait until after the lottery to make their decision?? If you get candidate A, it probably doesn't matter, but if they draft a big with 'potential' vs a more established swing, does it make a difference??


I don't think they wanna rush it and make a bad decision, But they likely should have someone by the lottery ( may 18). This way whoever is hired... Can be involved in the draft process.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#193 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:31 pm

I imagine they will wait untill after the lottery. If they get a top-3(or maybe even win the lottery haha). Coaches all of a sudden would wanna come here.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#194 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:33 pm

I also wouldn't mind picking up the heir to Gregg Popovich if he's seriously looking for a job. He's learned from a winner and we need to translate some of those winning vibes over to Philly.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#195 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:40 pm

I wonder if the head assistant for the Spurs...Mike Budenholzer is of any interest?

He's been Popovich's right hand man and lead assistant for over a decade.
Anyone who has been the understudy of a great winning coach like Pop has to be intriguing IMO.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#196 » by Gsraider » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:54 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:I wonder if the head assistant for the Spurs...Mike Budenholzer is of any interest?


I think he has already been cited as someone on Stefanski's list of potential interviewees. No clue as to whether the interest is mutual however.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Collins To Be Interviewed 

Post#197 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:37 pm

freshie2 wrote:Do you think they wait until after the lottery to make their decision?? If you get candidate A, it probably doesn't matter, but if they draft a big with 'potential' vs a more established swing, does it make a difference??


I think it's LB's job if he wants it and so that could happen before May 18th. After him, it gets way too hazy. If the Sixers want to talk to Thibodeau or Budenholzer, this could take a long time since the Celtics or Spurs could be playing into June.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Sixers To Meet With Johnson 

Post#198 » by tk76 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:11 pm

This becomes an appealing destination if they win the lottery.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Sixers To Meet With Johnson 

Post#199 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:52 pm

I don't mind the wait. Thibs or Buden have that shiny word called "potential" and we haven't seen potential for a Sixers coach in a long time.
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Update: Sixers To Meet With Johnson 

Post#200 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:45 pm

These are the same frickin candidates we had last year. All dead beats pretty much. How about targeting someone new?

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