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Re: The Coaching Thread/SF76 Update On Page 17 

Post#321 » by 76ers76ers » Wed May 5, 2010 1:14 pm

Foshan wrote:Still gotta say I'd like to get a guy like Laimbeer. After that I'd probably be willing to give Jackson a shot. Not a big fan of Johnson, simply because a coaching move like AJ means(imo) we are dumping young talent/picks to compete now, which i think is a bad move.

A guy like Laimbeer or Jackson tells me there is the possibility we're going to look to rebuild and quick this bandaid fix crap.

Hmmmmm really?.....How can you sense that? Any red flags?
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Post#322 » by tk76 » Wed May 5, 2010 2:12 pm

KKell2507 wrote:I think the one thing you have to do no matter what this offseason is find the player you want to build around. My personal opinion is we have to do whatever it takes to get Evan Turner. Whether we get lucky andget the 2nd pick or whether it costs us,


From what SF1976 say, this will actually be the Sixers approach. The biggest issue is that you can't make someone trade you a player. When the Sixers had pick #2 and #1 was Duncan no trade would have allowed us to move up that one spot.
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Post#323 » by KKell2507 » Wed May 5, 2010 2:58 pm

From what SF1976 say, this will actually be the Sixers approach. The biggest issue is that you can't make someone trade you a player. When the Sixers had pick #2 and #1 was Duncan no trade would have allowed us to move up that one spot.


Understandably it takes 2 to tango, but if Stefanski can actually pull that off he will have regained my respect as the GM of this team. Without of course it actually falling into his lap by getting the 2nd pick in the lottery.
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Post#324 » by tk76 » Wed May 5, 2010 5:48 pm

Yes. Doing something that shows us that Stefanski realizes finding a superstar is the #1 priority in building a winner would be a step in the right direction.
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Post#325 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Wed May 5, 2010 7:42 pm

Here's a name: The Czar Mike Fratello. Fratello is a man who holds great basketball knowledge and roots. He's contributed to the game massively and would demand the respect of every sixer.
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Post#326 » by tk76 » Wed May 5, 2010 8:10 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote: He's contributed to the game massively


Yes- he won an Emmy for best use of a telestrator by a color analyst. I think he beat out Madden that year :)
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Re: The Coaching Thread/SF76 Update On Page 17 

Post#327 » by LongLiveHinkie » Wed May 5, 2010 9:32 pm

Mark Jackson declines being a candidate with Sixers per DNL.

Suck on it Stiff.
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Post#328 » by sec-106 » Wed May 5, 2010 9:44 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Here's a name: The Czar Mike Fratello. Fratello is a man who holds great basketball knowledge and roots. He's contributed to the game massively and would demand the respect of every sixer.


Mike, is that you?
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Post#329 » by PhilasFinest » Wed May 5, 2010 9:47 pm

Lol
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#330 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Wed May 5, 2010 11:26 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:Mark Jackson declines being a candidate with Sixers per DNL.

Suck on it Stiff.


Jrue Holiday, kid had a solid year. While you hate the Sixers management, do you hate the only kid that played hard last year?
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Post#331 » by The Guilty Party » Thu May 6, 2010 1:07 am

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/six ... ixers.html

So Jackson won't interview here but he's hoping to be interviewed by the Clippers, Nets, and Hornets. If the Sixers owners cared at all about this team, this should be yet another reason that the GM needs to be canned.
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Post#332 » by panacea » Thu May 6, 2010 2:15 am

Who does Mark Jackson think he is? Seriously.
I didn't want him...but this certainly reflects poorly on the organization.
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Post#333 » by tk76 » Thu May 6, 2010 2:20 am

panacea wrote:Who does Mark Jackson think he is? Seriously.
I didn't want him...but this certainly reflects poorly on the organization.


He does not want to be the 8th coach in 8 years for a team that is locked into Brand for another 3 years. That is not exactly bad judgement on his part. As a new coach this job would be a no win scenario. You maximize the current team to 45 wins and then get fired because they can't get any better. Or you continue to build through losing, but get fired before there is any payoff. Oh, and your boss Stefanski probably has a 1-2 year shelf life, max.

I pity any new coach brought in if they are expected to execute some kind of quick fix. They might look good year one (improving on EJ's tenure) but the longer horizon of that approach is not good for the coach or the team.
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Post#334 » by Mojo7 » Thu May 6, 2010 2:53 am

tk76 wrote:
panacea wrote:Who does Mark Jackson think he is? Seriously.
I didn't want him...but this certainly reflects poorly on the organization.


He does not want to be the 8th coach in 8 years for a team that is locked into Brand for another 3 years. That is not exactly bad judgement on his part. As a new coach this job would be a no win scenario. You maximize the current team to 45 wins and then get fired because they can't get any better. Or you continue to build through losing, but get fired before there is any payoff. Oh, and your boss Stefanski probably has a 1-2 year shelf life, max.

I pity any new coach brought in if they are expected to execute some kind of quick fix. They might look good year one (improving on EJ's tenure) but the longer horizon of that approach is not good for the coach or the team.


If I were an established coach like Johnson or Collins, I'd be thinking that I might be able to take Stefanski's job and run the whole show?

I wonder if Doug Collins might be thinking that, if he parlays it right, he could simply retire into a front office position here after coaching for 3+ seasons, something like Pat Riley in Miami.
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Post#335 » by The Guilty Party » Thu May 6, 2010 4:00 am

If SF76's report is true that Stefanski has been told that he has one more year to turn this around, then I don't blame any coach for not wanting to come here... well at least a coach who's trying to make a career and not just collect a paycheck.

By Stefanski being given a year to turn this around then whoever is hired is going to need to win and win immediately. If the Sixers have another 25-30 win season then Stefanski is canned and whoever the new GM is going to want to hire his own guy which for a guy like Jackson is not how you want to start your coaching career.

Keeping Stefanski on is just bad for so many reasons. If he knows he has one year to turn this around then we might see a serious of band-aids being thrown on this team which will only further drag this dark age on and on and on.
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Post#336 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Thu May 6, 2010 6:36 am

TGP: If they are the right bandaids, they can seriously help. See my adding Chris Kaman and Ben Gordan. Getting a superb SG and low-post threat all in one.

Jrue Holiday/Ben Gordan/Andre Iguodala/Elton Brand/Chris Kaman

The thing is, the Clippers never had a player of Gordan's caliber on the outside. Mobley shot only 33 percent from 3 in the year they made the playoffs. And Mobley only scored at least or near 20 PPG twice in his NBA career.(both his early years in Houston).

But the main thing was free throws. Brand and Maggette really attacked the rim. Brand was averaging 7 free throws a game that year, Maggs 8 free throws.

Their top-4 options averaged at least 3 free throws a game. That's what led to their playoff birth.

Getting Kaman here helps with that. And Gordon himself averaged at least 4 FTA prior to being injured.

Adding 9 FTA, as well as the shooting and low post game of Gordon/Kaman would do more then a quick fix. It would revitalize Brand's career, allowing him to play the pick and pop game to his perfection.

It would put Iggy in a proper role of a slasher, get to the line kind of guy and minimize the turnovers.
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Post#337 » by corwin » Thu May 6, 2010 9:53 am

The Guilty Party wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/Jackson_wont_interview_with_Sixers.html

So Jackson won't interview here but he's hoping to be interviewed by the Clippers, Nets, and Hornets. If the Sixers owners cared at all about this team, this should be yet another reason that the GM needs to be canned.


Doesn't get any lower than that. The guy wants to interview for the Nets & Clippers but not Philly.
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Post#338 » by sweetlou23 » Thu May 6, 2010 11:16 am

corwin wrote:
The Guilty Party wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/Jackson_wont_interview_with_Sixers.html

So Jackson won't interview here but he's hoping to be interviewed by the Clippers, Nets, and Hornets. If the Sixers owners cared at all about this team, this should be yet another reason that the GM needs to be canned.


Doesn't get any lower than that. The guy wants to interview for the Nets & Clippers but not Philly.



Do we suck that much? I think the problem lies with the ownership. Anyone could see 25-30 games into the season that jordan should have been canned. The sixers let him ride out the year and impede the development of our players. Now we have a GM who is on the hot seat searching for a coach who is willing to jump onto a sinking ship. Depressing. Is there anything to look forward to this season other than the absence of Eddie Jordan?
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Re: The Coaching Thread/Jackson Won't Interview Here 

Post#339 » by Foshan » Thu May 6, 2010 11:40 am

The Guilty Party wrote:If SF76's report is true that Stefanski has been told that he has one more year to turn this around, then I don't blame any coach for not wanting to come here... well at least a coach who's trying to make a career and not just collect a paycheck.


So does 'the right direction' necessarily mean playoffs/wins? I mean is that totally ruling out rebuilding? Because I think Ed Stef could 'get this team on track' and still have a losing season next year, but would result in some serious wins in the future.

If it is a 'win now' type of proposition, then I can agree with no newer type coaches wanting to come here, because it is setting them up to fail.

Of course if Dileo is heavily involved in picking the coach, then maybe the coach has a chance of lasting past Ed, since Dileo's probably next.

The more and more i think about this situation, it just screams rebuild. Get a 'good retread' coach (which ever doesn't get the job he actually wants), then get a choice of overpaying for 2nd rate old talent to compile a veteran team who can maybe squeek into the playoffs just to try to save big Ed's job.

*sigh*

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Re: The Coaching Thread/Jackson Won't Interview Here 

Post#340 » by 51X3RF4N » Thu May 6, 2010 12:12 pm

Well...if you had your choice...


Yi, Lopez, Williams, Lee, Harris, (Wall, Turner, Favors)

There is so much potential there. Lopez holds down the C position for years. If you get Favors, you have the best big man combo in the East in a few years, maybe even in the NBA. If you get Wall, you run with Wall/Harris/T-Will/Yi/Lopez...if you get Turner you go with Harris/Turner/T-Will/Yi/Lopez...and if you get Favors you start Harris/T-Will/Yi/Favors/Lopez. Wouldn't you rather coach any of those 3 groups than the Sixers?

OR

Paul, Thornton, Wright, West, Okafor...with Collison off the bench....would you want to coach that group or the Sixers??

OR

Davis/Gordon/Griffen/Kaman/Jordan...AND being in LA.

Those choices FAR outweight whatever the Sixers can offer. He is right to say no thanks.
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