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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#441 » by Netaman » Wed May 19, 2010 4:55 am

76ers76ers wrote:Iguodala and Speights for #3 and filler?


don't see that happening.
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Post#442 » by jzmagik » Wed May 19, 2010 5:46 am

Pretty crushing, Favors should be our pick but I'm not a huge fan of him. He's way too raw and what we saw out of him from Georgia Tech was nothing to write home about. GT's system was a terrible fit for Favors so theres a lot of question marks with him.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#443 » by Adam1221 » Wed May 19, 2010 5:47 am

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Adam1221 wrote:Had some time to think about it and Im very neutral about this, not feeling one way or another.
Granted on 1 hand we could have gotten the 4th pick and THAT would've sucked on the other hand we could've gotten the 1st or 2nd pick which would have been awesome.

On the bright side were getting a player that has all star potential and fills a need.
Granted we might be out of the Lebron running but we're we ever really there?

Btw there's no doubt in my mind that Cousins is our guy, not Favors.


Trust me... As a Blazer fan, landing the #1 pick is not always what you hope it to be! (sigh)


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Anyway the worst thing about this 3rd pick situation is that we're stuck with 2 high risk high reward guys and I guarantee you one of them will be a total bust and one will be the next Howard.
Guess its up to Thorn to decide which one is the bust.

Once again guys quit thinking about trading the pick for semi AS talent, Danny Granger cant play a full season to save his life no matter how talented the guy is he's soo injury prone you cant build around him, which is my main beef with Harris, I love the player and when he's healthy he's a top 5-7 player in his position but he always gets injured and the season goes up in flames.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#444 » by BRIGGS » Wed May 19, 2010 5:58 am

You guys are in good position

If it was me it's a no brainer--take Greg Monroe to play PF. Cousins really is a 5 and Favors is a hybrid 5 and both have ?marks

Monroe is the complete player here--he really was impressive this year with his increase in rebounding the ball and his passing game is already at a very high NBA skill level. He can post and hit the mid range and I just see good quality synergy with Lopez--truly I think it's a very sold way to go. I would NOT be upset by this.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#445 » by Jersey Generals » Wed May 19, 2010 6:03 am

Monroe at 3 is too much of a reach. If Monroe was the guy, trade back to say 5 or 6 or 7, pick up a few extra picks/prospects and then pick Monroe.
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Post#446 » by 60cent » Wed May 19, 2010 6:20 am

Seriously, this draft is more about top 3 of Wall, Turner and Cousins. I dont understand the love for Favors because the guy lacks a lot. I watched a lot of his freshman year at GT and he never wow-ed me, never. Not explosive, little bit of post moves but the toughness just wasnt there. There were many games where i was waiting for him to go after the shot (ala Howard) but i was always disappointed. He looked good on some alley-oops but thats about it, heck, Sean Williams can also do that and can block better than he does.

Sometimes we just get too pumped with these young guys athleticism and long frame but thats not always the case. Think of Ibaka with no hussle, no aggresiveness and no stamina. Coming out after his disappointing freshman year is already a big warning, so i dont think RT is that stupid to even think about drafting this guy with our first pick. I predict that some GM's picking early would pass on him and he will end up between 7-10th pick. And to be honest to y'all, the first time i watched Favors play, i was surprised with his game because, as a freshman, he was so aggressive and his teammates were always looking for him until i realized it was Gani Lawal.

So no Favors pls and Lawal for our 27th or 31st pick!!!łl


Also, if you want to get a better feel for Cousins game, just think of Nene Hilario with better rebounding, nicer touch around the rim, better post moves etc.
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Post#447 » by deviljets7 » Wed May 19, 2010 6:33 am

BRIGGS wrote:You guys are in good position

If it was me it's a no brainer--take Greg Monroe to play PF. Cousins really is a 5 and Favors is a hybrid 5 and both have ?marks

Monroe is the complete player here--he really was impressive this year with his increase in rebounding the ball and his passing game is already at a very high NBA skill level. He can post and hit the mid range and I just see good quality synergy with Lopez--truly I think it's a very sold way to go. I would NOT be upset by this.


I really like Monroe, but you can't take him at #3. Now if MIN, SAC or GSW wants to give up something of value to move up, I'd be more than happy with Monroe in the 5-7 range.
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Post#448 » by Jersey Generals » Wed May 19, 2010 6:36 am

deviljets7 wrote:I really like Monroe, but you can't take him at #3. Now if MIN, SAC or GSW wants to give up something of value to move up, I'd be more than happy with Monroe in the 5-7 range, as what Jersey Generals so eloquently said.



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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#449 » by jzmagik » Wed May 19, 2010 6:47 am

60cent wrote:Seriously, this draft is more about top 3 of Wall, Turner and Cousins. I dont understand the love for Favors because the guy lacks a lot. I watched a lot of his freshman year at GT and he never wow-ed me, never. Not explosive, little bit of post moves but the toughness just wasnt there. There were many games where i was waiting for him to go after the shot (ala Howard) but i was always disappointed. He looked good on some alley-oops but thats about it, heck, Sean Williams can also do that and can block better than he does.

Sometimes we just get too pumped with these young guys athleticism and long frame but thats not always the case. Think of Ibaka with no hussle, no aggresiveness and no stamina. Coming out after his disappointing freshman year is already a big warning, so i dont think RT is that stupid to even think about drafting this guy with our first pick. I predict that some GM's picking early would pass on him and he will end up between 7-10th pick. And to be honest to y'all, the first time i watched Favors play, i was surprised with his game because, as a freshman, he was so aggressive and his teammates were always looking for him until i realized it was Gani Lawal.

So no Favors pls and Lawal for our 27th or 31st pick!!!łl


Also, if you want to get a better feel for Cousins game, just think of Nene Hilario with better rebounding, nicer touch around the rim, better post moves etc.


There's a reason why Sean Williams was taken 17 and Favors is projected top 5. Favors has the athleticism to make his potential intriguing, the GT system was a terrible fit and not a good showcase of his ability. This is a pretty weak draft and Favors has the most obvious upside where we're picking.

That being said, I wouldn't mind trading down if Thorn sees some depth in this pool.

Trading the pick for a star is a very unlikely scenario, considering we'll lose our ability to sign a max FA.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#450 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed May 19, 2010 7:01 am

60cent wrote:but the toughness just wasnt there.

This is actually my main concern with Favors.
I think he looked a lot worse then he actually was because of GT's terrible guard play and lack of shooters, along with playing next to a lane clogger in Gani, but the lack of an aggressive attitude and mean streak scare me some.

Also, if you want to get a better feel for Cousins game, just think of Nene Hilario with better rebounding, nicer touch around the rim, better post moves etc.

This IMO is a really good comparison. I actually made this same comparison on the Draft Boards a few months ago. This is where I get swayed back towards Cousins. I also like his attitude. He has a chip on his shoulder, he has a mean streak, he's really just somewhat of an a**hole.
I think that's actually a good quality for a big man to have as long as they don't show that same demeanor towards their teammates and as far as DeMarcus has shown, he's actually a good and loyal teammate.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#451 » by Morthello » Wed May 19, 2010 10:34 am

Anyone else think a look at Wes Johnson wouldnt be a bad idea?
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Post#452 » by Rockice_8 » Wed May 19, 2010 12:05 pm

I think Favors has to be the guy. Cousins is a C and doesn't have a mid range game and will not compliment Lopez (who is our franchise C). Favors has a mid range touch, has some post moves, is a good rebounder and can block some shots. Yeah he's raw but he's 18 and we aren't contending anytime soon so we can be patient. If we think he will grow into his potential I think its' a no brainer. We could have our frontcourt set for the next 12-14 years. Lets add a few veterans to our bench and let the kids run. Eric Bledsoe is a name I'm really interested in. He played in the shadow of some big time players. I think since we got screwed in the lottery then we could use a little luck and have him fall to us at #27 (which is possible), then at #31 Varnado is my clear cut choice. After that I think we need to target Rudy Gay. He's youth, fast break, and shooting ability would fit nicely at the 3, which slides T-Will into a sixth man role which suits him well because he can play multiple positions.

Harris/Bledsoe
Lee/(FA shooter Morrow)
Gay/T-Will
Favors/Yi
Lopez/Varnado

Coach: Tom Thibodeau

I think I would be happy with that squad. Siging Gay and Morrow leaves us with extra cap room for next season to make a run at Melo, which should be top priority now that this year's top guys seem to be out of the question.

Side Note: I saw someone metion Wes Johnson while yes I like him alot if we take him and put him at small forward and strike out with FA PF's (Lee, Amare, Boozer, Bosh) then we will be screwed and stuck with Yi and that is something I can not tolerate.
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Post#453 » by 60cent » Wed May 19, 2010 12:26 pm

Enough with the softies like Monroe and Aldridge. Just for the chance of getting Cousins, i can even call DLee, Boozer, Bosh and Amare softies now. Enough of them! We now have a chancr at drafting a real, solid beast and still many of you are backing away from it?! Enough with the passing PF's like Monroe or the perimeter shooter PF's like Aldridge, Bosh and Boozer or the no defense Amare, DLee and might be all of them. We are now going to pound the ball deep inside where no one of them has ever gone before, somewhere so deep and tight that when they try to stop him they'll run out of gas and just give up. With his body and his excellent touch, he will make it hard for them and it will only allow Brook to do what he has to do the easy way. Plus, if RT can convince some pure shooters like Ray Allen to come here, it will make it easier for everybody.

Btw, the only softy PF i still like on this team is Dirk but if we really would end up with Cousins, Dirk might not become an option as well.

Sorry guys if i've been rambling on my recent posts... Im tired and im going to sleep... Good day Nets fans.
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Post#454 » by funkatron101 » Wed May 19, 2010 12:50 pm

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Post#455 » by nba_addict » Wed May 19, 2010 1:07 pm

Hey guys. I own the Nets in GM-A-Team game in Trade & Transaction Board. Im still undecided who to pick between Cousins and Farvors.

Some considerations that I have:
- I think Farvors is a center. His body is a forward but his skillsets are all indicative of a center. Cousins seems to have a reliable jumper than Farvors. If Farvors is going to be a forward on long-term basis it has to be in the mold of Millsap or Landry (though Millsap is better rebounder in college).
- Do you think Brook at PF and Cousins at C will work? Remember Brook in Stanford is playing PF with Robin manning the C.

Inputs will be greatly appreciated.
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Post#456 » by TheNetsFan » Wed May 19, 2010 2:56 pm

Favors is the pick. Lopez & Cousins are both centers. The Nets will look to add an athletic PF that can rebound, block shots, get out in transition & play some pick & roll. All of that equals Favors. Lopez & cousins would be too slow of a front court.
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Post#457 » by ChampionRed » Wed May 19, 2010 3:21 pm

Favors is the "moose" rod Thorn has been talking about and exactly the kind of player we need growing next to Brook Lopez. He's a tough PF that we have been missing since Kenyon Martin left. He also has shown potential to develop into more than just a power player. Favors is the obvious pick here and I feel confident that Rod Thorn will get it done.

In the previous thread I made about "The Nets Targeting Amare", I said that my friend saw the draft day board and the top three rookies up there were Wall, Turner, and Favors. So hopefully that means that the Nets feel the same way about Favors. Let's for once not choose the head-case with "high risk-high reward" label.
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Post#458 » by amk482 » Wed May 19, 2010 3:24 pm

# 3 to Utah for # 9, next year's memphis # 1 pick and Milsap? - just trying to think outside the box as I attempt to get over dropping to # 3. if we keep the pick, I thin favors is the guy.
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Post#459 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed May 19, 2010 4:24 pm

Although I like where your head is at, I think Utah gives up too much there. That Memphis pick is a lotto pick next year too unless something major happens to them. I think we can get #9 and Memphis's pick, maybe a 2nd rounder too, but Millsap is overkill to me as much as I like him. If they lose Boozer, I think they'd rather keep Millsap than get Favors or Cousins.

Utah needs a wing player anyway. If Turner fell and we still wanted to trade, Utah could make a call. Or if they felt Wes Johnson was their guy and thought he'd be gone by their pick. Then we could take Monroe or Patterson at 9 and can entice Melo to come play with our core plus 2 lotto picks in 2011 lol.

It's a decent thought though.
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Post#460 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed May 19, 2010 4:26 pm

Just curious:

Would anyone do Lee/#3 for OJ Mayo/#12?

Which side needs more there?
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