OT: Report: Cavaliers make offer to Tom Izzo
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30 million is a lot to leave on the table with or without LeBron. Who knows if Izzo ever gets another NBA coaching offer again. If Izzo ever planned on coaching in the NBA at some point, he'll take this.
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Sever82 wrote:lu9 wrote:So maybe this has been addressed earlier or perhaps we don't know the answer but...
I'll ask anyway.
Is there anything stopping Izzo from calling LeBron and asking him if he will re-up?
Nope but you have to imagine there has been some sort of conversation. Which makes me skeptical as to why Izzo hasn't accepted. Like another poster said, if it was known Lebron would reup, he would've accepted by now.
Who said?
I doubt any of us has any idea of the weights for Izzo of the cash versus Lebron versus leaving MSU. And since reports are that he is 'torn', means there probably isn't just one thing he's factoring.
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lu9 wrote:Sever82 wrote:http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=29584
Is this legit?
Where did you even find that? Google?
Cavs board on ESPN
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kyrv wrote:Sever82 wrote:lu9 wrote:So maybe this has been addressed earlier or perhaps we don't know the answer but...
I'll ask anyway.
Is there anything stopping Izzo from calling LeBron and asking him if he will re-up?
Nope but you have to imagine there has been some sort of conversation. Which makes me skeptical as to why Izzo hasn't accepted. Like another poster said, if it was known Lebron would reup, he would've accepted by now.
Who said?
I doubt any of us has any idea of the weights for Izzo of the cash versus Lebron versus leaving MSU. And since reports are that he is 'torn', means there probably isn't just one thing he's factoring.
I was just saying that you would think that he would've had no problem taking all that money already if the uncertainty about LeBron within Izzo's circle and within Cavs circles wasn't great. Just speculation, on my part, but it would seem like a no-brainer.
On the other hand, he could very well decide to go there without any assurances just based on the absurd amount of money.
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This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
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Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
The job is 30 million dollars good.
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Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
$30 million
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kyrv wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
The job is 30 million dollars good.
Just curious though, if Izzo declines the job offer, does it guarantee that lebron is leaving? I dont see any other coach out there that i could see Lebron feeling he's the coach to take them to the title, not that Izzo is that but Izzo is a big name. I dont see Pjax leaving LA, Van Gundy has already said he wont coach and turned down Cleveland according to a report. I dont think any of the names out there strike me as a coach that can lead the cavs with Lebron.
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kyrv wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
The job is 30 million dollars good.
Yeah, that'd probably be a good reason to leave, haha. But still. I just can't see why leap to the NBA now given the type of situation he's going to be involved in. Obviously it works out if Lebron returns, but if he doesn't- he's going to have to get used to alot more losing and one and dones in the playoffs..
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if he takes the job, this sets us up perfectly for july 1st lol
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Clocian wrote:if he takes the job, this sets us up perfectly for july 1st lol
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Sever82 wrote:kyrv wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
The job is 30 million dollars good.
Just curious though, if Izzo declines the job offer, does it guarantee that lebron is leaving? .
I don't think there are any guarantees involved, no. With any coaching or GM hire.
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Jordan45822 wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
$30 million
I think if he takes it Lebron stays, I think Izzo won't take the job unless he knows LBJ is there, and I don't think the Cavs want to pay 7mil a year for a coach if LBJ is not there. It's not a guarantee, but I think it would send a strong signal that LBJ is reupping.
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masamunexs wrote:Jordan45822 wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
$30 million
I think if he takes it Lebron stays, I think Izzo won't take the job unless he knows LBJ is there, and I don't think the Cavs want to pay 7mil a year for a coach if LBJ is not there. It's not a guarantee, but I think it would send a strong signal that LBJ is reupping.
I think he has to take the job (Or not take the job) without knowing.
Cavs want Lebron to stay. If he leaves, maybe having a big name coach wouldn't hurt.
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masamunexs wrote:Jordan45822 wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
$30 million
I think if he takes it Lebron stays, I think Izzo won't take the job unless he knows LBJ is there, and I don't think the Cavs want to pay 7mil a year for a coach if LBJ is not there. It's not a guarantee, but I think it would send a strong signal that LBJ is reupping.
I have the same feeling. Izzo leaving = LeBron staying
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masamunexs wrote:Jordan45822 wrote:Payt10 wrote:This is shocking, I didn't see him accepting the job unless Lebron told him that he was coming back. What good is the job without Lebron?
$30 million
I think if he takes it Lebron stays, I think Izzo won't take the job unless he knows LBJ is there, and I don't think the Cavs want to pay 7mil a year for a coach if LBJ is not there. It's not a guarantee, but I think it would send a strong signal that LBJ is reupping.
Or they're just desperate as can be to get Lebron to stay and they're hoping a big splash hire (since he won't give them any input and won't communicate with them) will keep him around.
When someone means that much to their franchise, it's probably worth the gamble to Gilbert to spend twice as much as he probably otherwise would on a coach.
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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Clocian wrote:if he takes the job, this sets us up perfectly for july 1st lol
How?
should've added "assuming bron is smart"

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davhern wrote:
Or they're just desperate as can be to get Lebron to stay and they're hoping a big splash hire (since he won't give them any input and won't communicate with them) will keep him around.
When someone means that much to their franchise, it's probably worth the gamble to Gilbert to spend twice as much as he probably otherwise would on a coach.
Agreed. I don't think him taking the job would mean LeBron is staying. It means Cleveland is willing to do whatever they can to try to convince him to stay. If worse comes to worse, and he leaves, they have a supposed marquee coach to build around.
This is all these teams can do between now and July 1. Posture and position to win the war.
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It's worth noting also that it's worth more than $30 million.
I forget the link I saw yesterday, but it was Dan Gilbert being asked about the $30 million, and he said that it wasn't true, that he offered more per year, that he believed he had to offer up more to make the big splash to get Izzo to come and that it wasn't attached to LeBron staying.
Of course, the second part could be false, but I doubt he'd say he offered even more money if it weren't true.
I forget the link I saw yesterday, but it was Dan Gilbert being asked about the $30 million, and he said that it wasn't true, that he offered more per year, that he believed he had to offer up more to make the big splash to get Izzo to come and that it wasn't attached to LeBron staying.
Of course, the second part could be false, but I doubt he'd say he offered even more money if it weren't true.
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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Clocian wrote:if he takes the job, this sets us up perfectly for july 1st lol
How?
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