Jefferson for Murphy?

[granger05]

However, the most consistent thing I'm hearing is that the team appears to be determined to move Al Jefferson. According to sources they've offered him to Detroit for Tayshaun Prince this week and have also contacted the Pacers about their interest in Jefferson for Troy Murphy's expiring contract.

From Chad Ford's latest blog, report, whatever.

Jefferson is paid a lot, but he doesn't seem overpaid for a 20-10 low-post scorer. If that was really all it took to get him then we'd be dumb not to.

[MUpacersSIC]

I'd do that in a heart beat.

[granger05]

I was just reading the Minnesota board's commentary on this article. They were fixated on the Zach Randolph version that I didn't include in the quote. There was some twitter activity that was linked to there. Chad Ford tweeted that the Randolph deal was dead because Memphis refused to include a pick. Then there was some other twitter clown (Frank Isola) claiming that a couple of teams were trying to buy Minny's #23 pick.

If Minny is really trying to move Jefferson, and also not interested in ending up with 4 first rounders then maybe we could do Murphy + #10 for Jefferson + #23. I'd do that. We lose out on some of our cap room, but we at least become relevant again. I'm becoming really unexcited about any of the #10 prospects (or at least the guys I think WE would take at #10). I'm fine with making a pick at #23 instead. Avery Bradley has been dropping down and maybe we get lucky.

[shrink]

If Minny is really trying to move Jefferson, and also not interested in ending up with 4 first rounders then maybe we could do Murphy + #10 for Jefferson + #23. I'd do that. We lose out on some of our cap room, but we at least become relevant again. I'm becoming really unexcited about any of the #10 prospects (or at least the guys I think WE would take at #10). I'm fine with making a pick at #23 instead. Avery Bradley has been dropping down and maybe we get lucky.

MIN fan here. You know, if you had said this 48 hours ago, I'd have simply passed, but after hearing all these bad rumors, this looks a lot more appealing.

Personally, I think Kahn's best play would be to simply wait. People have forgotten what an offensive threat Jefferson is, and focus on his injury from over a year ago and his salary. I think he is likely to gain a lot more trade value if MIN simply waits to deal him at the trade deadline, over two years from his injury. He missed no games for health last year, he showed great monthly gains in production until his grandmother died, and his numbers the previous years (ages 22-24) were comparable with the best bigs in the game. Unfortunately, I think Kahn may feel he needs to make a big change in the team in the next 48 hours, and I think he may be focused on selling Jefferson low.

[Boneman2]

If the pick is involved I'd prefer Flynn/ Jefferson/ #16/ +filler for Murphy/ Ford/ Rush/ #10

[DWCP2]

I bet Flynn and #10 are out of the picture and this is an entirely different deal outright.

Be that as it may, Jefferson would be an ideal big, but I'd like at least the lowest of their first round picks because of the value of Murphy's expiring.

[shrink]

Thought you'd get a kick out of this, from the local MN paper.

"Memphis asked us about Zach and we said no," Kahn said this afternoon in a text message to the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "And I have not spoken with Detroit."

Kahn had a more emphatic response about the alleged Murphy deal.

"Murphy is yet another in a long line of desperation Hail Mary's put out by Indiana on all our players," Kahn said.

I have had this impression this has been Larry Bird's style for many years. Might have worked for him as a player, but its insulting when you do it as a GM.

[pacersrule08]

what does that mean?

[Indy2thaWindy]

It means Bird is just throwin trades at the twolves tryin to get a deal done when minnesota doesn't want to trade with him. Kahn used be Birds man. Dont know why he talkin bout him like that unless hes joking.

[fj20]

I wouldn't mind that trade since Jefferson is so young...but sitll being paid a boat ton of cash money

[BiggDawg897]

Thought you'd get a kick out of this, from the local MN paper.

"Memphis asked us about Zach and we said no," Kahn said this afternoon in a text message to the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "And I have not spoken with Detroit."

Kahn had a more emphatic response about the alleged Murphy deal.

"Murphy is yet another in a long line of desperation Hail Mary's put out by Indiana on all our players," Kahn said.

I have had this impression this has been Larry Bird's style for many years. Might have worked for him as a player, but its insulting when you do it as a GM.

Yeah, that's coming from a guy who drafted Rubio on a whim and a hope AND then Flynn.. Our "hail mary" makes more sense than his "play action". Jefferson is good, and I'd do the trade, but he is the typical big man double edge sword. Clogs the lane, limited range, injury risk, big contract. When healthy, rebounds well, scores great on the block and around the rim. Not to mention questions on how he would run the floor in JOB's flip a coin offense. Kahn may be over valuing, which seems to be the trend this off-season, but if he really wants to move Jefferson he should expect to lose a little or break even in a trade, and not go bad mouthing teams that are offering what is going to be thought of as comparable to what others would offer throughout the league.

[Indy2thaWindy]

The best point guard Kahn drafted last year he traded to Denver. Rubio is a bum, McBob is a better point guard than him.

[Jackson Jiggle]

I would do the jefferson for murph trade without a doubt. But I'm not so sure that jefferson would be a good 4 with Hibbert on the floor. Offensively they have similar games and i think they lane would just get to congested. With that being said, that would be one heck of a frontcourt to have to deal with night in and night out.

[Indy2thaWindy]

Hibberts game isn't really in the paint as much as it is on the block but i agree that him aljeff wouldnt play to well together.

[granger05]

MIN fan here. You know, if you had said this 48 hours ago, I'd have simply passed, but after hearing all these bad rumors, this looks a lot more appealing.

This makes me feel bad for Minny fans. Although, I do feel the same way about our moves sometimes too. It's all about perception. I'm also amused by the other Kahn quote you posted. All I'm hearing is that Minnesota has offers out to every team in the league. Maybe he's the one who's throwing hail marys. Still, I enjoy having GMs in the league that just want to make deals. It makes me think the whole thing is like a fantasy league.

I'm kind of thinking Aminu might fall to #10 now (there's a rumor that GS wants Udoh). If that's the case then I think we should just keep the pick.

[blueandgold]

OK. If you realy want to move Jefferson and get a better quality draft pick, here's the deal.

Jefferson
Flynn
# 16

for

Murphy
S. Jones
#10

[pacersrule08]

y in the WORLD would minnesota do that?

[Aiq]

Throw in T.J Ford and Minn will do it. Kahn loves his pg's. He wants an army of them.

[Starkiller]

Throw in T.J Ford and Minn will do it. Kahn loves his pg's. He wants an army of them.

LMAO then do it in a heart beat.