2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors

[jzmagik]

I'm fine with the Favors pick regardless of what happens with Cousins. There were concerns with both players, revisionist historians will downplay that if one of them busts but there wasn't so much a "right" pick between the two as far as I'm concerned.

I agree with you. No point in looking back on it. But...I openly admit...if Cousins explodes and Favors flops...on this pick...absolutely you have to hold management accountable.

Ripping them for the Zoran Planinic's of the world or whatever happens to the 24 Vs. 27 tonight? Nah.

You get a chance to take the best big man in the draft...you BETTER get it right or you will have it on your head.

I happen to agree though. As a FAN...I support the move...even if the more I saw of Cousins the more the dreaded potential word kept coming out of my mouth. I accept as a fan not betting on Cousins upside to avoid the downside of his growing backside.

After the discussions about #3 and Harris for Granger and 10, I think Favors might not be a Net by the beginning of the season. I just hope we don't try to dangle him for a third-rate "star" in the mold of Granger.

I'd rather let Favors develop and go from there.

[enetric]

Enetric...I literally about die laughing every single year when the Jazz draft, sign or trade for a white guy...Kosta Kofous and the Korver trade were my faves for whatever reason, lol. I just remember Kyle Korver at Creighton getting "Ashton Kutcher" chants.

They have a quotta. Has to be. They find ways to keep it balanced. And usually its not just window dressing. They tend to have half their white guys in rotation.

But you know what? They win 50 games just about every year...so you cant really say too much other than sit back and snicker when you see it. I point it out almost every year. People used to get angry with me when I would say it.

Hell...USA teams have had their quottas too...and I tend to point that out as well. I forget who lost their mind here when I said Hinrich years ago was chosen for his skin color and that he was taken over several much better players for a USA team. And I was told he would be a superstar.

To me....I dont root harder for you or root against you for the color of your skin. Just play well and bust your hump. I dont need to feel you represent me or my demographic. Just freakin play.

[enetric]

I mean senselessly buying prospects isn't the way to go either when you're a 12 win team. There are still a number of young players on this roster who are going to need minutes... We got what we came for but in terms of fleshing out the roster it was a failure.

I wanted some extra 2nd rounders to fill out the roster.

let me ask...what is the bare minimum they can pay a walk on? Anyone know? Could that be the reason? Fill a couple of spots with $100K per year signings and free up a mil in cap holds????

[enetric]

I just got an e-mail from nets.com asking me to order a Favors jersey, does this mean there's virtually a 0% chance Favors is traded?

Please tell me it does!

I guess that mean's Chris Paul to the Bricks is D.O.A.?

It doesnt mean any of that! Come on now. You know better than that. Even if the NBA KNEW Favors was about to be traded...they wouldnt hesitate to get paid on TWO jerseys as soon as possible!!!!!

[vincecarter4pres]

I feel like it's Christmas and I got a brand new PS3, but instead of getting games with it all I got was long johns and socks.

Socks arent so bad.

I'm pretty sure you got the point I was trying to make, but I was saying Favors was the PS3 and instead of new games I got socks, those being Damion James.

And now the Knicks get gifted Mikhail Torrance...

?????

I really thought teams thought higher of Torrance. He was mocked as high as a very brief stint as a late 1st rounder(to Orlando I want to say) and has been a main stay from the top of the 2nd round to about 45th overall since at least February. I made this comment about 3 minutes before the Knicks first pick, I was almost positive they would take him...

[enetric]

3 names to remember as undrafted free agents:
Mikhail Torrance
Manny Harris
Sherron Collins

Give them each 50K and a lolipop right now...and get us an extra 1.3 mil in cap space from cap holds that have been filled...lol.

[vincecarter4pres]

I just got an e-mail from nets.com asking me to order a Favors jersey, does this mean there's virtually a 0% chance Favors is traded?

Please tell me it does!

I guess that mean's Chris Paul to the Bricks is D.O.A.?

It doesnt mean any of that! Come on now. You know better than that. Even if the NBA KNEW Favors was about to be traded...they wouldnt hesitate to get paid on TWO jerseys as soon as possible!!!!!

I guess so, but that would be pretty cold blooded of the Nets and I would think you could demand a refund if that was the case, I guess not though.
I do like Favors a lot. Hopefully he pans out and hopefully he doesn't wind up so raw he literally can only see like 18mpg floor time for the first half of the season or so. I guess it also depends on who the other players he is surrounded with are.

[enetric]

I feel like it's Christmas and I got a brand new PS3, but instead of getting games with it all I got was long johns and socks.

Socks arent so bad.

I'm pretty sure you got the point I was trying to make, but I was saying Favors was the PS3 and instead of new games I got socks, those being Damion James.

And now the Knicks get gifted Mikhail Torrance...

?????

I really thought teams thought higher of Torrance. He was mocked as high as a very brief stint as a late 1st rounder(to Orlando I want to say) and has been a main stay from the top of the 2nd round to about 45th overall since at least February. I made this comment about 3 minutes before the Knicks first pick, I was almost positive they would take him...

I was busting your chops about the socks.

I thought you actually heard something about Torrance during the draft.

PS- I know I have given you crap about getting overly hyped for draft picks in the moment in past seasons...but I wanted to tell you that I thought you did a great job breaking guys down this year. You have me seriously keeping an eye on George. I didnt have a chance to watch enough tape on him the last few weeks....took a quick look...but didnt really break him down until the last two days. Absolutely see why you like him as a prospect. No question.

having said that...I stil dont want to deal Devin and Favors for him and Granger! Good trade on paper...but I would rather see how Favors pans out if we arent going to make the BIG trade.

Anyway....you receive an Enetric gold star for your draft comments this season. (First one I have given out in a long time...well earned)

[Pugsley_2491]

The more I'm thinking about it and reading up/watching highlights on James, I'm really starting to like that trade a lot. James brings a lot of intangibles to this team.

[enetric]

Posted this in the other thread....just a thought.....

Maybe we are looking at this all wrong. See, we are looking at this like...only 3 spots up for the 31?

Maybe the Nets fell in love with him. Maybe HE was absolutely their guy. And all that talk about dealing for the 19th pick...perhaps HE was the target all along.

And when he dropped to the Hawks they made the offer and felt...Wow we got our guy for even less of a cap hit. Lets do it.

[vincecarter4pres]

The more I'm thinking about it and reading up/watching highlights on James, I'm really starting to like that trade a lot. James brings a lot of intangibles to this team.

The thing is all Atlanta wanted was Jordan Crawford and some bling.
We could have sent them the 27th and whatever cash they got to sell the 31st and then just kept the 31st and drafted a guy like Armon Johnson, Whiteside or Terrico White.
Would have had no implications on the cap.
Just (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

[vincecarter4pres]

PS- I know I have given you crap about getting overly hyped for draft picks in the moment in past seasons...but I wanted to tell you that I thought you did a great job breaking guys down this year. You have me seriously keeping an eye on George. I didnt have a chance to watch enough tape on him the last few weeks....took a quick look...but didnt really break him down until the last two days. Absolutely see why you like him as a prospect. No question.

having said that...I stil dont want to deal Devin and Favors for him and Granger! Good trade on paper...but I would rather see how Favors pans out if we arent going to make the BIG trade.

Anyway....you receive an Enetric gold star for your draft comments this season. (First one I have given out in a long time...well earned)

Thanks.

[enetric]

The more I'm thinking about it and reading up/watching highlights on James, I'm really starting to like that trade a lot. James brings a lot of intangibles to this team.

The thing is all Atlanta wanted was Jordan Crawford and some bling.
We could have sent them the 27th and whatever cash they got to sell the 31st and then just kept the 31st and drafted a guy like Armon Johnson, Whiteside or Terrico White.
Would have had no implications on the cap.
Just (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

Yeah...that's a good counter point. i think Rod might be so used to having to sell picks, and make smart moves that he thinks of it as his cash. I think he could have asked Uncle Proky for a couple of million dollar checks...no?

[vincecarter4pres]

The more I'm thinking about it and reading up/watching highlights on James, I'm really starting to like that trade a lot. James brings a lot of intangibles to this team.

The thing is all Atlanta wanted was Jordan Crawford and some bling.
We could have sent them the 27th and whatever cash they got to sell the 31st and then just kept the 31st and drafted a guy like Armon Johnson, Whiteside or Terrico White.
Would have had no implications on the cap.
Just (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

Yeah...that's a good counter point. i think Rod might be so used to having to sell picks, and make smart moves that he thinks of it as his cash. I think he could have asked Uncle Proky for a couple of million dollar checks...no?

Sure, if Proky is really serious about this thing. I'm wondering if Thorn did ask. Maybe Atlanta said, "we want the 27th overall and 2 or 3 million for the 24th", and Proky said no, so they countered with 27th and the 31st, figuring very early 2nd's such as the 31st have been sold for 2 to 3 million the last couple drafts and we said fine.

[Jersey Generals]

Sure, if Proky is really serious about this thing. I'm wondering if Thorn did ask. Maybe Atlanta said, "we want the 27th overall and 2 or 3 million for the 24th", and Proky said no, so they countered with 27th and the 31st, figuring very early 2nd's such as the 31st have been sold for 2 to 3 million the last couple drafts and we said fine.

I'm skeptical about him right now. I mean, the Nets were a fall back option, he wanted the Knicks.

[vincecarter4pres]

Sure, if Proky is really serious about this thing. I'm wondering if Thorn did ask. Maybe Atlanta said, "we want the 27th overall and 2 or 3 million for the 24th", and Proky said no, so they countered with 27th and the 31st, figuring very early 2nd's such as the 31st have been sold for 2 to 3 million the last couple drafts and we said fine.

I'm skeptical about him right now. I mean, the Nets were a fall back option, he wanted the Knicks.

True story?

[enetric]

Sure, if Proky is really serious about this thing. I'm wondering if Thorn did ask. Maybe Atlanta said, "we want the 27th overall and 2 or 3 million for the 24th", and Proky said no, so they countered with 27th and the 31st, figuring very early 2nd's such as the 31st have been sold for 2 to 3 million the last couple drafts and we said fine.

I'm skeptical about him right now. I mean, the Nets were a fall back option, he wanted the Knicks.

Oh stop it. You would want the Knicks too if you were a billionaire from Russia. I am sure that was right after he asked about the Lakers.

I dont think for a sec he asked for the cash. i heard Rod the other day scoffing at someone paying 2mil for a second rounder...he thought that was absurd.

I just think its a new world for him...and he might have missed that pitch...or he is still thinking like a bottom line guy charged with the financial end of the business along with the basketball end.

We as fans are already in Mark Cuban mode. We need Rod to get there too!!!

[deviljets7]

Sure, if Proky is really serious about this thing. I'm wondering if Thorn did ask. Maybe Atlanta said, "we want the 27th overall and 2 or 3 million for the 24th", and Proky said no, so they countered with 27th and the 31st, figuring very early 2nd's such as the 31st have been sold for 2 to 3 million the last couple drafts and we said fine.

I'm skeptical about him right now. I mean, the Nets were a fall back option, he wanted the Knicks.

I don't think not paying for mid-2nd rounders says anything for or against his commitment to winning.

As to the Nets being a fallback option to the Knicks, let's be rationale here, why wouldn't you want to own the Knicks instead?

The Nets are a team that has bled money for eternity, had a shaky (at best) arena situation and in terms of brand name are near the bottom of the league.

As wretched as the Knicks have been for the past decade, you can't argue the notoriety of the franchise/history and having a legendary building in place. Even with such a lousy product on the court, they literally print money over there.

Are the Nets in a better on-court situation than the Knicks? Absolutely, but in every other aspect from an ownership the Knicks have NJ beat right now.

[enetric]

My favorite line of the night.....

@Trickle01 RT @GaryParrishCBS: Regarding Tiny Gallon: If you have a tattoo on your neck that says "misunderstood," you're probably understood about right.

[Jersey Generals]

I don't think not paying for mid-2nd rounders says anything for or against his commitment to winning.

I think it certainly does. Now, instead of having our choice of who to fill out the roster with, we have to get D-leaguers or non-drafted players. Joy.

Edit: Oh, and I said skeptical, not "this guy sucks."