Official Transaction Ideas thread

[ALL HAIL]

on top of that Brown isn't taking 1.5 , guy is making $2 now and is looking for more and longer and Hail you think he'll come back for 1.5?

All two year deals:
Fisher for 2, Miller for 2.5, Bell for 1.5.

If Fisher is making 2 mill and Bell is at 1.5, then Shannon Brown should feel lucky to get a new 2 year deal worth 3 million.

If he aint prepared for what teams will offer him then he shouldn't opt out.

If he doesn't like 1.5 mill then he can kick rocks --- with Bell, Brown is not a necessity, although he (Brown) can be a great weapon to have at the end of your bench for 1.5 million.

So yeah I do think that if Brown opts out he could get a few 2 year, 2 million dollar per offers from teams but from us it'll be 1.5 mill .... the way Buss and Kupchak will see it .... if he wanted 2 million he shouldn't have opted out.

[KingLakers]

All this talk about the Lakers not using the MLE got me thinking there is a cheap way of filling the Lakers needs without spending the MLE. This scenario has Brown, Farmar, Benga, Powell and, Morrison all leaving.
And Phil returning for 1 more year. First sign Fisher to a 2yr 4 million dollar contract, second sign Bell for the minimum, third sign Livingston to the minimum he can get, fourth sign Mahinmi to replace Powell with the minimum he can get, six and seven draft a perimeter player with 43rd pick and sign and draft a few young big men to compete for Benga's old spot.
2010-2011 Lakers Roster
PG. Fisher, Livingston, Rookie
SG. Kobe, Raja, Sasha
SF. Artest, Walton
PF. Pau, Lamar, Mahinmi
C. Bynum, Young C
Total salaries added $5,854,510
Total payroll for 2010-2011 $87,582,712
Total payroll lower by $3,794.601 from 2009-2010
I think this is a very likely scenario that could happen in the summer. Basically the Lakers spend nearly the amount of the MLE but never use the MLE. All contracts are minimums and rookie contracts except for Fisher.

[daddyfivestar]

Bells not taking min when he can at least get someones BAE for 2m, Mahinmi already said he's going where the playing time opportunity is best (obviously not a place with 3 bigs entrenched), and pretty sure Wiz will offer Liv more than the min (according to their board they like him as a 3rd G with Wall/Gil but think somebody will offer him a few mil). Good ideas but not realistic. Offer Bell 2m, Liv 2m, and a diff young PFC for vet min, you might have it.

Re on Mahinmi though, he may also go to Euro for a bigger payday. Maybe Elonu comes in as that b/u b/u PF?

[KingLakers]

Considering the high risk because of his injury history i really don't think anyone is gonna give Livingston more than 1m a year. If Mahinmi gets the pt Powell was getting in LA that will still be more than what he was getting with the Spurs. Bells minimum would be nearly 2m his minimum is 1.3m

[ALL HAIL]

^Yeah, I got it as:

Fisher 2 mill
Miller 2.5-3 mill
Livingston 1.5 mill
Brown 1.5 mill ...

... and Bell isn't interested after he sees us sign Miller, Livingston, and especially Brown.

With the additions of Miller and Livingston (and subtractions of Farmar and Morrision) I believe that Shannon Brown's skill set (athleticism, defense, shooting off dribble) will be more important to this team than Bell's.

Raja Bell is a better player but with Miller and Livingston this team would need a bolt of athleticism and emergency PG defense.

[DubaLakers]

Can someone explain the Rasheed situation to me. He's guaranteed 6M for the next two years and he retires, so how does that work.

He walks away from 12M, and it doesn't go against the cap, it comes off the cap?

Why would Sheed walk away is he crazy, why did I ask that?

He just bailed the Celtics out didn't he. Man I can see the Celtics hypnotizing him. Doc using reverse psycology on him

[KingLakers]

I think the Celtics can go to the NBA and ask them if they can get out of Rasheeds contract since he retired before his contract was over.

[The Skyhook]

Miller isn't coming here for anything less than the MLE.

[semi-sentient]

Miller isn't coming here for anything less than the MLE.

Exactly. $2.5-$3.0 is not going to get it done. That's Farmar/Brown type money, and he's worth at least twice what they are.

Someone will definitely give him the MLE, and from the looks of it it won't be us.

[Dr Aki]

mike miller is how old? how long does he have to win a ring?

thats the position the lakers should be advertising... not money. how much money has miller made over his career? is a couple of million worth more than winning a ring? a large chuck eaten away by tax anyway?

gotta sell it guys! SELL IT!

also, as good as livingston's been on a scrub wizard team, his knees are too shot for me. id rather worry about performance rather than receiving no performance at all.

thats why kupchak mentions steve blake, luke ridnour and earl watson instead of livingston

[The Skyhook]

Aki I know where you are coming from with your point about Miller but I feel like we won't be the only contenders offering him a contract. As soon as word would break out that the Lakers offered him a fairly cheap contract I think another contender would step in up what we offered him. I feel like Chicago will pursue Miller especially if Lebron and Bosh go there.

[Dr Aki]

Aki I know where you are coming from with your point about Miller but I feel like we won't be the only contenders offering him a contract. As soon as word would break out that the Lakers offered him a fairly cheap contract I think another contender would step in up what we offered him. I feel like Chicago will pursue Miller especially if Lebron and Bosh go there.

they cant offer him more than the vets' min because theyre under the cap (or whatever's left under the cap)

the MLE is only available to teams over the cap.

so unless boston or orlando make a better offer, if they were offering the same price, the lakers have the upper hand

[The Skyhook]

Well I'm saying once they sign all of their big name free agents like Lebron and Bosh. They would be over the cap then.

[Dr Aki]

Well I'm saying once they sign all of their big name free agents like Lebron and Bosh. They would be over the cap then.

think you need to re-read what you just wrote. theres a reason why its called a cap.

[hoops_32]

Re-Sign Derek Fisher 2 years 5m
Sign Randy Foye 3 years 9m
Sign Tracy McGrady 2yrs 5m
Re-Sign Mbenga and Powell


PG-Fisher/Foye
SG-Kobe/T-Mac/Sasha
SF-Artest/Walton/Ebanks
PF-Gasol/Odom/Powell
C-Bynum/Mbenga

Foye is a restricted FA but Washington won't match becasue of Wall,Areanas, and Hinrich. Foye gives us some youth and athleticism off the bench. Foye is also a good defender and shooter. McGrady would provide us someone other than Kobe that can drive and get to the rim. He would be able to provide some scoring off the bench and allow Kobe and Artest to rest more. Ebanks is a good defender and will be able to develop behind Kobe,Artest,Walton, And McGrady. He also provides insurance in case one of those players gets hurt. Other than that the team is the same with Fisher, Powell and Mbanga all resigning. With this roster it gives us a great shot at repeating and winning another three peat.

[ALL HAIL]

Miller will go to Chicago if they only fill their need for low post scoring using the max. They'll have a lot of room left if they just sign Boozer.

Hell they'll have enough to overpay for Ray Allen and give Mike Miller 4.5 million.

So it realy all depends on how they use their space and where the FAs go.

I hope Chicago gets two maxes while keeping Deng because this would put them oout of play for Miller. If that happens we can get him for 3 mill.

[Mirjalovic]

Re-Sign Derek Fisher 2 years 5m
Sign Randy Foye 3 years 9m
Sign Tracy McGrady 2yrs 5m
Re-Sign Mbenga and Powell


PG-Fisher/Foye
SG-Kobe/T-Mac/Sasha
SF-Artest/Walton/Ebanks
PF-Gasol/Odom/Powell
C-Bynum/Mbenga

Foye is a restricted FA but Washington won't match becasue of Wall,Areanas, and Hinrich. Foye gives us some youth and athleticism off the bench. Foye is also a good defender and shooter. McGrady would provide us someone other than Kobe that can drive and get to the rim. He would be able to provide some scoring off the bench and allow Kobe and Artest to rest more. Ebanks is a good defender and will be able to develop behind Kobe,Artest,Walton, And McGrady. He also provides insurance in case one of those players gets hurt. Other than that the team is the same with Fisher, Powell and Mbanga all resigning. With this roster it gives us a great shot at repeating and winning another three peat.

well,,, i like it,, but still lack a consistent 3 point shooter.

[daddyfivestar]

Well I'm saying once they sign all of their big name free agents like Lebron and Bosh. They would be over the cap then.

There's no MLE if they start UNDER the cap, which they are. Even if the new deals put them over it they don't get the MLE.

[The Skyhook]

Well I'm saying once they sign all of their big name free agents like Lebron and Bosh. They would be over the cap then.

There's no MLE if they start UNDER the cap, which they are. Even if the new deals put them over it they don't get the MLE.

Ok thats what I was trying to find out. If they were able to position themselves to be over the cap if they would be able to get the MLE.

[chefy]

mike miller will sign with us book it