BBallFreak wrote:Wizenheimer wrote:if Beasely was so much closer to a sure thing then the Portland players, the Heat wouldn't consider moving him. That's not poor logic at all
Yes they would. Of course they would. They're trying to get Bosh and LeBron to go right alongside Wade. It would be stupid to keep him if he's what's standing in their way.
in other words, the Heat are desperate to dump Beasely? Why would any team come into that giving Miami credit for any leverage
If Beasely was a desirable commodity around the league, he'd have been moved by now unless the Heat actually have a done deal where Beasely goes out in a sign & trade
it's pretty simple: the Heat have to dump Beasely somehow in order to have room for 3 max contracts, including Wade
what is also logical is that in Portland, Beasely would not start at PF nor would he start at SF. And when you look at he numbers at the two positions, he's pretty weak as a SF. That's ok I suppose in that the Blazers have better options at SF in Batum, Roy & possibly Cunningham. The trouble is Portland has better options at PF as well in Aldridge, Camby & situationsally Cunningham & Pendergraph.
Camby is a center (and played 0% of Portland's power forward minutes)
I don't care what 82 games said, Camby did essentially play some PF for the Blazers last season when he was on the floor with Howard. And Camby certainly played PF for extended stretches with the Clippers when he was on the floor with Kaman
And when the Blazers re-signed him they specifically cited Camby's ability to play either C or PF as a reason he was a good fit.
If Aldridge is getting 35 minutes a game, and almost all of that is at PF that's only going to leave 13-15 minutes a game for backup PF. I am absolutely certain that Beasely wouldn't get all of those minutes playing for the Blazers. Maybe not even half.
and Roy is a shooting guard (though to your credit, he did play substantial time at small forward, but I would imagine it was more out of need than desire to play there).
last year, there was some injury-caused necessity, until Roy was injured himself. The year before there was some necessity as well. But there was also some situational reasons as well and if you're looking at the numbers at 82games, then check out Roy's positional breakdown at SG compared to SF, especially the 08/09 season. Roy is extremely effective when used judiciously as a SF. He has a higher PER there then at SG and hold opponents to worse numbers.
If the Blazers have a loaded backcourt, and if Miller, Bayless & Fernandez are all back, they will have a loaded backcourt, moving Roy to SF get's needed minutes for the other guards. And gutting that backcourt depth to add an unneeded player like Beasely doesn't make sense either
Their is no reason Beasley couldn't get 24 minutes a game from Portland's bench.
I've just given you good reasons. I think I'm pretty familiar with portland's rotations and needs, and I can't see Beasely getting that much time.
The Blazers alre also looking at using their MLE on a guard-forward type. If they could happen to sign somebody like Mike Miller of John Salmons, they would fit much better into Portland's rotation then Beasely
In other words, Beasely would have to meet the the "closer to a sure thing" criteria while being no better then the 3rd option at either PF or SF. I can't see that working out too well for the Blazers, and I'm pretty certain Beasely wouldn't be happy with that either
When you manipulate the roster to better fit your criteria as to why Beasley doesn't fit, you're logic proves faulty.
if you knew much about Portland's roster and rotations, you wouldn't think what I was saying was "manipulation"
This deal would have as much chance as being disruptive for the Blazers as it would be successful. That's what I meant by 'sure thing'
I thoroughly disagree. This is free talent. You take it and run...
what a load of malarkey
Portland gives up Bayless, Fernandez, and Pendergraph in this deal. That ain't anything close to a "free talent" trade, and you saying that proves you can't objectively weigh this deal
what's worse is that the Blazers give up most of that 'useless' talent to a division rival